Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

ColeTrain · 13-04-2013 09:06PM

hardy buck salmon wrote: »

was at the match too.

No better man than salmon

davegrohl48 · 14-04-2013 10:44AM

Was only just thinking I suppose not a bad idea ye offered lifts to each other for the away games? Would cut the cost of attending a game in Cork/Dublin alot. Also good craic. I'm sure plenty one person cars travelling etc.

14-04-2013 04:06PM

Like a repeat of last September so far. Keane lets two goals past him again in first few minutes.:o

68Murph68 · 14-04-2013 04:09PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Like a repeat of last September so far. Keane lets two goals past him again in first few minutes.:o

First one was poor - being beaten at the near post.

Second one the defence has to take some of the blame with the slack marking. Think the keeper was unsighted by one of the backs somewhat.

He's not getting a lot of protection from his backs.

He just made a good save there after some more reckless marking by the Mayo defence.

68Murph68 · 14-04-2013 04:34PM

Stat from twitter

Dubs outscored Mayo by 2-9 to 0-2 from the 11th to 31st minute in that half. #mayogaa

15 points in a 20 minute spell is fairly blistering stuff.

Caiseoipe19 · 14-04-2013 04:35PM

68Murph68 wrote: »

Stat from twitter

Dubs outscored Mayo by 2-9 to 0-2 from the 11th to 31st minute in that half. #mayogaa

15 points in a 20 minute spell is fairly blistering stuff.

...and that's against the wind.

68Murph68 · 14-04-2013 04:41PM

Cygnus wrote: »

...and that's against the wind.

Doesnt look to be much of a wind there though.

All about what sort of 2nd half Mayo have now.

Fr Tod Umptious · 14-04-2013 05:05PM

Horan throwing a few new lads on, Walsh, Gallagher and Murphy, no bad harm

14-04-2013 05:18PM

68Murph68 wrote: »

First one was poor - being beaten at the near post.

Second one the defence has to take some of the blame with the slack marking. Think the keeper was unsighted by one of the backs somewhat.

He's not getting a lot of protection from his backs.

He just made a good save there after some more reckless marking by the Mayo defence.

Keane let it straight through his arms. Its the two goals that made the difference in the end.

We badly need a goalscorer for the championship.

Caiseoipe19 · 14-04-2013 05:24PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Keane let it straight through his arms. Its the two goals that made the difference in the end.

We badly need a goalscorer for the championship.

The lads that are there are the best in the county.

Peanut Butter Jelly · 14-04-2013 05:25PM

I hate to say it, but Kevin Keane needs to get his act together. Much like the All Ireland, he could have prevented the two goals, and it was the first goal that put an end to Mayo today. The first ten minutes were perfect, 3 points up, but then out of nowhere, 2 goals from the dubs in 6 minutes. If he fouled the Dublin man, it was a free in and at most a point, and in my opinion, that is where the game was lost.

Always_Running · 14-04-2013 05:28PM

Mayo lost that game in the 1st half. Some amount of goal chances not taken again however the dubs probably missed as many goals. 0-16 is a decent score against All Ireland favourites. Galway in 5 weeks and at least they aren't at the level of Dublin.

Caiseoipe19 · 14-04-2013 05:31PM

What disappointed me was the way some of the Mayo players died inthe last quarter. There tiems that Dublin were attacking and Mayo players were just jogging back and Dublin walked through the defence. I'm guessing this was just that they were our on their feet at this stage in the game but I thought it was a bit early to be.
Towards the end of the match especially, we seemed to lose the ball in the tackle a lot, I thought as well.

Fowler87 · 14-04-2013 06:14PM

Its been a successful league campaign but christ we need to sort out our forward problems especially at half forward before championship comes around. I know Dillon and Moran are to come back but there is a serious issue that's needs addressing at 11. Backs were caught napping and weren't sharp enough today but recovered well in 2nd half. Cafferkey was good today at 3 and made amends from the night league game when Brogan had him in that game.

And if ever ya want justification about Aidan O'Shea position watch the two halves today and leave it at that. Too important to the team now to mess around with his role at this stage

Caiseoipe19 · 14-04-2013 06:35PM

I think everyone agrees that O'Shea's best position is at midfield, but the problem is that we're lacking someone of good enough standard to play at 11. On the other hand, by playing O'Shea at 11, we have a decent people to take the midfield position. And while O'Shea might be better than them in that position, I'm guessing Horan feels that overall, the team is stronger that way.

When Dillon comes back in to fit into the forwards, I'm sure we'll see O'Shea moving back to midfield.

cat in the sack · 14-04-2013 07:31PM

you wonder how much heartbreak Mayo football can take, coming up short
every year its hard to take for the supporter of mayo football.

i know they will be back later on in the championship as they have had fine footballers over the last 25 years, but there is only so much a supporter can
take another all ireland semil or final defeat for Mayo looks on the cards
i fear.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 14-04-2013 07:41PM

Thought Aidan O'Shea had a good game today, kicked a fine point in the second half. Donie Vaughan will be disappointed with his performance, he made a few unforced errors throughout the game, as did McLoughlin who was well short of his worth today.

Maybe we shouldn't be too surprised with the two Morans, Dillon and Higgins all missing. The lack of goal-scoring ability up front was ultimately what killed off Mayo today and it's going to be a big problem for us come the championship if we can't resolve it.

Fair play to Dublin, 10 minutes into the first half I thought we were going to take them, another 10 minutes in and I was wondering how much we were going to get beaten by. Given the way we were blitzed I don't think there can be many complaints about the final score.

yop · 14-04-2013 08:59PM

Goals win games, we didn't take the goal chances against Kildare and Tyrone and paid the price, today the same thing.
The K Keane is in serious trouble of losing his place, his pace is non existant and he just seems to be gone with regards his ability of reading the game. Last year is really affecting him.
Afraid Vaughan hasn't picked up since last year and it probably our worst defender. Gives the ball away and is much to slow for this level.
AOS again played out of position until he went to midfield we were getting whipped.
Clarke was immense. Cillian O'Connor just gets better game on game, the ground he covered was unreal and his scoring was very good.
Micky Con did his best. DOC the same.
Seamus O'shea worked hard but looked slow, Gibbons the same.

All in all i never expected us to win, I honestly think if you take Higgins, Dillion, Moran * 2 out of any team them you will be well back. Build on today and move up the fitness.

Heck but its hard to watch the match on TNaG!!

Syferus · 14-04-2013 09:48PM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Thought Aidan O'Shea had a good game today, kicked a fine point in the second half. Donie Vaughan will be disappointed with his performance, he made a few unforced errors throughout the game, as did McLoughlin who was well short of his worth today.

Maybe we shouldn't be too surprised with the two Morans, Dillon and Higgins all missing. The lack of goal-scoring ability up front was ultimately what killed off Mayo today and it's going to be a big problem for us come the championship if we can't resolve it.

Fair play to Dublin, 10 minutes into the first half I thought we were going to take them, another 10 minutes in and I was wondering how much we were going to get beaten by. Given the way we were blitzed I don't think there can be many complaints about the final score.

AO'S was the losing of the match for Mayo. He couldn't mark his HB and both goals came as a result of plays that originated from AO'S being caught flat-footed by his man. Dublin's half-backs ran Mayo ragged in general today.

It's not even really his fault - the decision to play him at centre forward means his match-up is against someone far more nimble than him. Switching players from their best positions because of need is all well and good but this one moved AO'S farther away from the engine room and created a defensive mis-match the player that Dublin exploited to full effect.

AO'S came into it in the final twenty but the match was already over by then. One of, if not the, best midfielders in the country should be playing as a traditional midfielder. Trying to be too cute caught up to Horan today.

ColeTrain · 14-04-2013 10:16PM

Syferus wrote: »

AO'S was the losing of the match for Mayo. He couldn't mark his HB and both goals came as a result of plays that originated from AO'S being caught flat-footed by his man. Dublin's half-backs ran Mayo ragged in general today.

It's not even really his fault - the decisuion to play him at centre forward means his match-up is against someone far more nimble than him. Switching players from their best positions because of need is all well and good but this one moved AO'S farther away from the engine room and created a defensive mis-match the player that Dublin exploited to full effect.

AO'S came into it in the final twenty but the match was already over by then. One of, if not the, best midfielders in the country should be playing as a traditional midfielder. Trying to be too cute caught up to Horan today.

It was Kevin mc who lost the ball for the second goal.

Aos was briliant in the second half when moved to midfield

Syferus · 14-04-2013 10:38PM

ColeTrain wrote: »

It was Kevin mc who lost the ball for the second goal.

Aos was briliant in the second half when moved to midfield

Fair enough, but the point remains - having him farther away from the middle and with a HB on him is a liability that caused serious issues for Mayo today. Being brilliant in the middle after a match has been lost is meaningless, if he had started there it may have given Mayo a chance in the game.

Horan has to recognise now that teams have realised how to expose AO'S channel as a CF because everyone will copy the format and lessen his influence in games. AO'S needs to be a primary ball-carrier and at CF that's not what he is. It's wrong on too many levels to continue, even with injuries forcing Horan's hand.

Loafing Oaf · 14-04-2013 10:52PM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

The lack of goal-scoring ability up front was ultimately what killed off Mayo today and it's going to be a big problem for us come the championship if we can't resolve it.

Is it possible to train this into a team? Conroy is the only one for whom it comes naturally, and he isn't always on his game. The COC chance near the end encapsulated Mayo's goal problem perfectly: the optimum moment to pass it to him was missed, but even then he should have scored and didn't....

Fowler87 · 14-04-2013 10:53PM

Some good discussion on the game here compared to the loltastic game thread on HS. Mayo football might as well jack it all in and take up tiddly winks based on some of the posters 'views' on that thread:D

blowitupref · 14-04-2013 11:31PM

That game was far too open for Mayo to win. Mayo could have scored a few goals however Dublin could have scored 6. 5 defeats in 8 league games is not good stat for All Ireland contender however when Higgins,Dillon the two Morans returns and AOS reverts back to midfield they should win another Connacht title. After that it's all about the draw there's no guarantee that this Mayo side will reach another All Ireland semi final or final.

Loafing Oaf · 14-04-2013 11:37PM

blowitupref wrote: »

That game was far too open for Mayo to win. Mayo could have scored a few goals however Dublin could have scored 6. 5 defeats in 8 league games is not good stat for All Ireland contender however when Higgins,Dillon the two Morans returns and AOS reverts back to midfield they should win another Connacht title. After that it's all about the draw there's no guarantee that this Mayo side will reach another All Ireland semi final or final.

I have a queasy feeling Galway might put an early stop to our gallop, has happened a few times in the past to Mayo teams who seemed to be building towards something big...

Fowler87 · 14-04-2013 11:44PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

I have a queasy feeling Galway might put an early stop to our gallop, has happened a few times in the past to Mayo teams who seemed to be building towards something big...

Your not the only one with doubts against Galway and why should we as Meehan and Armstrong are still more than capable forwards and that Galway team on their home patch will be rearing to go, no doubt about that. However I still belief we will just about scrape a win but not a chance Mayo will ease past Galway onto a Connacht semi at the final whistle on 19 May. If we do make it 3 in 3, it will be alot tougher than the previous two campaigns..

blowitupref · 15-04-2013 12:35AM

I Don't think so. While Galway should give Mayo a game in Salthill they haven't improved much from 2011 and as result they won't be good enough to cause upset.

Caiseoipe19 · 15-04-2013 02:01AM

I really think we/people are expecting too much from Andy Moran when he comes back. After the length of time he's been out for, I fear the expectations/hopes we have of the impact he'll make may be too optimistic. Coming straight back into Championship football without decent match practice to shake of any rustiness...I don't think he'll be as influential as we hope. I think the psychological boost the team will receive from his return will have more of an impact than his direct contribution.

@Fowler, HS is the greates joke of a discussion forum I've seen. The amount of tripe posted on it, along with people's total disregard for any grammar and the ridiculous moderation combines to create a rubbish website if you're looking for half-decent discussion.

Barlett · 15-04-2013 09:46AM

Yeah dipped into the HS forum for a minute and felt my rage rising so I left. People talking about league semi-finals like it's an All-Ireland Semi-Final , calling for Horan to resign...awful stuff really. If there's one thing I hate it's a knee-jerk supporter...I think what this campaign has proven though is that, our first choice 15 is very good, certainly capable of competing for an All-Ireland. However without the likes of Dillon, Higgins etc we will fall short. And even if Andy Moran returns as half the player he was he will be a better link up option in the full forward line than what we have currently.

Conroy played very well yesterday but I think he would come on even more if he had Moran to link up with him.

man3003 · 15-04-2013 09:48AM

I think our backs and Midfield are fine, I personally would have a fit Cunniffe at 6, our problems yesterday nearly all stemmed from their HB line breaking forward and creating extra men. Barry Moran (if fit)and AOS are surely the 8-9 partnership for Salthill.
Up front we have too many passengers, COC and Conroy aside the other forwards just didnt contribute enough. We dont have anyone to kick a point from more than 30 yards out. We are also useless at taking goal chances. hopefully Mcloughlin can re find his form, been a patchy league campaign from him. Dillon and Moran will surely add to our options but I dont think we can rely on either in a month, Moran in particular surely will be rusty having not kicked a ball since August.

In truth Dublin never got out of second gear but I did take some positives from the game:
1- Ger Caff had a good game on BB, needed to after the roasting he got at the start of March.
2- COC kicking 8 points, we need him fit for us to have a run.
3- Conroy winning nearly all the 50/50's that went his way.

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