Another victim of violent Republicanism...

ScumLord · 09-04-2013 07:57PM

Norwesterner wrote: »

Not a single Republican is in jail for dealing drugs.

That doesn't mean they don't sell drugs. Down south they were always associated with bringing drugs into the country.

Why force them out if it's alleged they are making millions from taxing dealers.

Because with all the other drug dealers gone they have the run of the place. It's drug gang rule number one, destroy the competition.

.jacksparrow. · 09-04-2013 08:05PM

ScumLord wrote: »

That doesn't mean they don't sell drugs. Down south they were always associated with bringing drugs into the country.

Because with all the other drug dealers gone they have the run of the place. It's drug gang rule number one, destroy the competition.

I never heard about them bringing drugs into the country,where can I read about this?

Sound of Silence · 09-04-2013 08:56PM

The actions of this Woman have as little to do with Republicanism as the actions of Michael Stone and Lenny Murphy have to do with Unionism.

FTA69 · 09-04-2013 09:45PM

realies wrote: »

Ok I get the ICA

This woman was the wife of the leader of the continuity IRA in limerick who himself is now locked up, AFAIK the shooting was connected to different factions between the CIRA,open to correction on this.

I think it was his daughter not his wife. Either or, a complete joke.

Norwesterner · 09-04-2013 10:11PM

King of Kings wrote: »

what about this lad?

http://www.herald.ie/news/ira-kicks-heroin-dealer-off-its-landing-in-prison-29176395.html

in case somebody argues that he hasn't been convicted (yet!) - why was he allowed on the republican wing in the first place?

First, that was a past conviction.
Secondly, it's unlikely he was or is an IRA member (he was simply in a commercial building when the gun was found.)
Third. The Authorities put him in the IRA landing.
Fourth. The IRA kicked him out.
Fifth. This was a sting operation. One of the 8 may well be an agent provocateur...who may have planted the gun and lured others into the building in order to be framed.
Sixth. Gardai are corrupt to high heavens and this one stinks.

Norwesterner · 09-04-2013 10:24PM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

I never heard about them bringing drugs into the country,where can I read about this?

Yes, where can we read about this?
For the Internation Monitoring Commission (which incorporates MI5, Garda intel, CIA and Interpol) have never alleged Republicans of drug dealing.
The people bringing in drugs to Ireland tend to be FG/FF voters, pillars of society, members of the local golf club/Rotary Club who own yachts off Spain, private jets and multiple homes in Ireland.
IRA members tend to live in council estates with no visible signs of wealth.

According to the Omagh Civil Case, the RIRA leadership were personally penniless and eligable for free legal aid.

CAB have never investigated a single member of any dissident group.

.jacksparrow. · 09-04-2013 10:28PM

Norwesterner wrote: »

Yes, where can we read about this?
For the Internation Monitoring Commission (which incorporates MI5, Garda intel, CIA and Interpol) have never alleged Republicans of drug dealing.
The people bringing in drugs to Ireland tend to be FG/FF voters, pillars of society, members of the local golf club/Rotary Club who own yachts off Spain, private jets and multiple homes in Ireland.
IRA members tend to live in council estates with no visible signs of wealth.

According to the Omagh Civil Case, the RIRA leadership were personally penniless and eligable for free legal aid.

CAB have never investigated a single member of any dissident group.

Ah but you see the herald and Sunday world mixed in with a bit of garda whispers,is the gospel nowadays.

Paul Williams is the peoples source....

Phoebas · 09-04-2013 11:06PM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

I never heard about them bringing drugs into the country,where can I read about this?

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Ah but you see the herald and Sunday world mixed in with a bit of garda whispers,is the gospel nowadays.

Paul Williams is the peoples source....

Fastest researcher on boards!!

Seachmall · 09-04-2013 11:21PM

Norwesterner wrote: »

For the Internation Monitoring Commission (which incorporates MI5, Garda intel, CIA and Interpol) have never alleged Republicans of drug dealing.

They have, however, alleged the IRA were connected international drug trafficking.

In the 90s US drug trafficker (Robert Flint) was hired by the Provos to transport cocaine to Iran to be exchanged for weapons which would be trafficked back into Ireland.

So while they never directly touch the drugs they do get involved in trafficking and supply when it suits.

Article; The IRA and the Colombian Connection

Edit - Corrections and link

Norwesterner · 10-04-2013 12:31AM

Seachmall wrote: »

They have, however, alleged the IRA were connected international drug trafficking.

In the 90s US drug trafficker (Robert Flint) was hired by the Provos to transport cocaine to Iran to be exchanged for weapons which would be trafficked back into Ireland.

So while they never directly touch the drugs they do get involved in trafficking and supply when it suits.

Article; The IRA and the Colombian Connection

Edit - Corrections and link

From your very own link,
"The IRA had nothing to do with the cocaine. If you know anything about the IRA, they want nothing to do with drugs." Robert Flint.

The dissidents would have a similar attitude to drugs. Slightly right to the Taliban when it comes to drug dealers.

Seachmall · 10-04-2013 12:51AM

Norwesterner wrote: »

From your very own link,
"The IRA had nothing to do with the cocaine. If you know anything about the IRA, they want nothing to do with drugs." Robert Flint.

They never touched the stuff, but they were happy to profit from it and train those directly involved in it's production.

And there's also this bit,

Although very few IRA members are directly involved in drug dealing in Northern Ireland, RUC and Army intelligence officers state that the organisation "licenses" drug dealers in nationalist areas and takes a portion of their profits.

Johnny Tillotson · 10-04-2013 02:15AM

Nodin wrote: »

No, I was pointing out the nature and intent of the thread -

REPUBLICANS!!!!! *poke with stick, *poke with stick

EVIL REPUBLICANS!!!!!! *poke with stick *kick *attempt to provoke

Would this be anything like the nature and intent of the immigration threads which occasionally crop up on boards, which you more often than not partake in -

RACISTS!!!!! *poke with stick, *poke with stick

EVIL RACISTS!!!!!! *poke with stick *kick *attempt to provoke

Norwesterner · 10-04-2013 02:55AM

Seachmall wrote: »

They never touched the stuff, but they were happy to profit from it and train those directly involved in it's production.

And there's also this bit,

RUC and British Army intelligence officers???
Really?
You don't think they might have an agenda or vested interest in disinformation.
From the people who gave us "WMD".

Dealing in drugs or profiteering in drugs is punishable by death.
Thats what the IRA do to their own members who try to engage in this activity.
Of the 200 dealers kicked out of Derry, not a single one mentioned that they were "taxed" by Republicans.
Never mind the ridiculous notion that the IRA "train" druggies.

Seachmall · 10-04-2013 10:50AM

Norwesterner wrote: »

RUC and British Army intelligence officers???
Really?
You don't think they might have an agenda or vested interest in disinformation.

OK, so the claim that nobody has accused the IRA of drug related activity is true as long as we don't take the opinion of the investigative services into account.

Sounds reasonable.

.jacksparrow. · 10-04-2013 11:04AM

Seachmall wrote: »

OK, so the claim that nobody has accused the IRA of drug related activity is true as long as we don't take the opinion of the investigative services into account.

Sounds reasonable.

They are pretty accurate in all fairness,they got it bang on with Iraq.

carolmarx · 10-04-2013 11:22AM

OP you're an idiot.
The man is a victim of a violent woman who claims to be a republican, not of violent republicanism.

old hippy · 10-04-2013 12:14PM

Johnny Tillotson wrote: »

Would this be anything like the nature and intent of the immigration threads which occasionally crop up on boards, which you more often than not partake in -

RACISTS!!!!! *poke with stick, *poke with stick

EVIL RACISTS!!!!!! *poke with stick *kick *attempt to provoke

Can't keep away, can you? Desperate stuff.

VinLieger · 10-04-2013 12:16PM

carolmarx wrote: »

OP you're an idiot.
The man is a victim of a violent woman who claims to be a republican, not of violent republicanism.

Yet to see the organisation she claims to be a member of distance itself from her

Seachmall · 10-04-2013 12:24PM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

They are pretty accurate in all fairness,they got it bang on with Iraq.

I'm glad you concede.

And to bring it to a complete circle lets go back to the first quote,

Norwesterner wrote: »

For the Internation Monitoring Commission (which incorporates MI5, Garda intel, CIA and Interpol) have never alleged Republicans of drug dealing.

Really?

The [INLA] is heavily involved in criminality, especially drugs

- Source

CIRA members continue to be involved in a large range of other serious criminal activity, including drug dealing

- Source

[INLA] remained involved in organised crime, including drugs

- Source

We believe that [RIRA] members robbed a public house in March and that they have obtained protection money from local drug dealers

- Source

mike65 · 10-04-2013 01:03PM

So then this woman is proud to have killed an innocent man.

In the name of what exactly?

.jacksparrow. · 10-04-2013 01:46PM

mike65 wrote: »

So then this woman is proud to have killed an innocent man.

In the name of what exactly?

There is a lot more to this story,she isn't a member of any group.

Edit-just heard on radio she was a member of rcira or whatever their calling themselves,seems it was retaliation for another murder,madness.

The_Kew_Tour · 10-04-2013 02:02PM

IRA ah a great bunch of lads.

Able to blow up and shoot their own in the name of Ireland.

If there is a hell I hope they get what is coming to every single one of them.

Ash.J.Williams · 10-04-2013 02:07PM

The IRA seem to work like a corporation, the terrorists themselves are the employees and Drug dealers are their contract workers. So none of the employees are involved in drugs, but they are happy to take a portion of the profits from nasty dealers under the cover of being anti drugs.

old hippy · 10-04-2013 04:48PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

IRA ah a great bunch of lads.

Able to blow up and shoot their own in the name of Ireland.

If there is a hell I hope they get what is coming to every single one of them.

I'm no apologist for the IRA but they don't actually exist anymore. What you have now are fringe groups, random die hards and extremists who are not part of the peace process and don't want to be.

The dizzies have very little support for their "campaigns" and rightly so.

Norwesterner · 10-04-2013 05:49PM

Seachmall wrote: »

OK, so the claim that nobody has accused the IRA of drug related activity is true as long as we don't take the opinion of the investigative services into account.

Sounds reasonable.

To appease Unionists, the British set up the International Monitoring Commision (with intel from ALL the foreign and domestic spy agencies) to deliver annual reports on "paramilitary" groups.
Show me one report that states Republicans are dealing in drugs or profiteering from drugs.
Obviously, certain elements of the spying community are going to feed misinformation to friendly journalists as part of the "War for Hearts and Minds".
This happens in all conflicts.

Seachmall · 10-04-2013 05:50PM

Norwesterner wrote: »

To appease Unionists, the British set up the International Monitoring Commision (with intel from ALL the foreign and domestic spy agencies) to deliver annual reports on "paramilitary" groups.
Show me one report that states Republicans are dealing in drugs or profiteering from drugs.
Obviously, certain elements of the spying community are going to feed misinformation to friendly journalists as part of the "War for Hearts and Minds".
This happens in all conflicts.

^^ 6 posts up. ^^

Norwesterner · 10-04-2013 05:56PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

The IRA seem to work like a corporation, the terrorists themselves are the employees and Drug dealers are their contract workers. So none of the employees are involved in drugs, but they are happy to take a portion of the profits from nasty dealers under the cover of being anti drugs.

Take some time out to familiarise yourself with the topic first.
Here's an Australian documentary on the matter.
Something we are deprived of in Ireland. ...an impartial, insightful and fair report.
Interviews with anti drugs activists, drug dealers, and local police.
The Drug Dealers (hundreds of individuals) mention nothing of these allegations of "taxes or bribes".
The police mention nothing of the allegations made by the likes of Paul Williams or Tom Brady etc.
The police and dealers clearly state that it's a matter of the IRA trying to combat the drug problems in their areas.
Incidentally, it's the community itself who demand the IRA take action against drug dealers.
Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDIr2rVaQaI

.jacksparrow. · 10-04-2013 06:26PM

Press Release/Preas Ráiteas

Clarification from Republican Sinn Féin

Some of todays newspapers (April 10) carried reports that Joe Lynch, Limerick, father of Rose Lynch, is a member of Republican Sinn Féin.

Neither Joe Lynch or his daughter are members of Republican Sinn Fein, nor have they been since April 2010 when they were expelled. He is part of a group usurping the name of Republican Sinn Féin to cover their nefarious activities.

ENDS

https://lists.riseup...4/msg00001.html

Still will make no difference to the family who lost a loved one.These wannabe groups who are in it for personal gain and destroying republicanism should pack up and go away.

GRMA · 10-04-2013 08:55PM

This scumbag and her father were thrown out of RSF for being criminal scumbags which says a lot

.jacksparrow. · 10-04-2013 08:59PM

GRMA wrote: »

This scumbag and her father were thrown out of RSF for being criminal scumbags which says a lot

ye and hearing she is getting treatment for mental issues.

That limerick crew are destroying republicanism,wish they would give it up.

Another victim of violent Republicanism...

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