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Another victim of violent Republicanism...

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    I'll just repost Release' post here because everyone Shinners seems to be furiously ignoring it in trying to defend the honour of a gang of thugs who (presumably) have nothing to do with SF.


    :oHave to be honest here I have voted for them on more than one occasion & would consider my self Republican. and I also don't get why Republican killings/murders get more publicity/outrage than any other others including loyalist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    A British Soldier lost his life after crashing into a tree in his car. It is believed Republicans planted it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    Nodin wrote: »
    I haven't seen anyone defending this lot, or this woman. Is your other hobby tilting at windmills?
    Back to the ad hominems? 22,000 posts full of bile. You must have a happy personal life. :)

    Nobody is defending the woman: however we do have a flock of Shinners pretending that this has nothing to do with armed-force Republicanism. It indisputably does. What I can't understand is why the Shinners feel threatened by the association? SF/IRA has abandoned the use of force and is committed to regular politics. I'm not drawing a link between these thugs and SF at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    I'll just repost Realies' post here because everyone Shinners seems to be furiously ignoring it in trying to defend the honour of a gang of thugs who (presumably) have nothing to do with SF.

    it appears that a fine mr. frazer has joined boards


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    it appears that a fine mr. frazer has joined boards
    I note that when you can't refute the argument, you try to undermine the poster. And the Shinners all thank the post. FFS.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    Back to the ad hominems? 22,000 posts full of bile. You must have a happy personal life. :)

    Nobody is defending the woman: however we do have a flock of Shinners pretending that this has nothing to do with armed-force Republicanism. It indisputably does. What I can't understand is why the Shinners feel threatened by the association? SF/IRA has abandoned the use of force and is committed to regular politics. I'm not drawing a link between these thugs and SF at all.


    You see, you fail to distinguish dissidents from mainstream republicanism, presumably in a deliberate attempt to smear all with the same brush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    I note that when you can't refute the argument, you try to undermine the poster. And the Shinners all thank the post. FFS.

    a crazy anti republican is not worth arguing against sinn fein has nothing to do with this thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    22,000 posts full of bile.

    In fairness he had two good posts in 2009 and one in 2011.

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    Nodin wrote: »
    You see, you fail to distinguish dissidents from mainstream republicanism, presumably in a deliberate attempt to smear all with the same brush.
    How do you propose that such a distinction is drawn? Look at the information in the first post. Does it say 'dissident republican' anywhere in the report? (Presumably you will ignore this question)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    OP you seem to take others 'thanking' posts personally.


    I wouldn't if I was you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    a crazy anti republican is not worth arguing against sinn fein has nothing to do with this thread
    Well you keep arguing with me then...

    (when you manage to think of an argument)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    How do you propose that such a distinction is drawn? Look at the information in the first post. Does it say 'dissident republican' anywhere in the report? (Presumably you will ignore this question)


    But it is dissident republicans, and its easy to draw a distinction, as other republicans have ceased their armed campaigns. Are you saying theres no such thing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    A British Soldier lost his life after crashing into a tree in his car. It is believed Republicans planted it.

    A grenade was thrown by dissident Republicans on Belfast's Shankill Road.
    The device was reported to have left a twenty four foot crafter in the middle of the road.


    The PSNI said they are looking into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    How do you propose that such a distinction is drawn? Look at the information in the first post. Does it say 'dissident republican' anywhere in the report? (Presumably you will ignore this question)

    Aside from mentioning the IRA it doesn't even mention "republican".

    It was your own interpretation that decided this was a republican attack, the article made no such conclusions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    How do you propose that such a distinction is drawn? Look at the information in the first post. Does it say 'dissident republican' anywhere in the report? (Presumably you will ignore this question)
    Nodin wrote: »
    But it is dissident republicans, and its easy to draw a distinction, as other republicans have ceased their armed campaigns. Are you saying theres no such thing?
    Ah here...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Aside from mentioning the IRA it doesn't even mention "republican".

    It was your own interpretation that decided this was a republican attack, the article made no such conclusions.
    Well I saw that she was charged with IRA membership and shouted 'Tiocfaidh ár lá' and so I jumped to the (apparently correct) conclusion that she might have been a violent Republican.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    Ah here...

    So if a plane crashes into the sea and the report fails to mention it was flying beforehand, it never happened....with ye now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    Well I saw that she was charged with IRA membership and shouted 'Tiocfaidh ár lá' and so I jumped to the (apparently correct) conclusion that she might have been a violent Republican.

    She could have shouted "FREE MANDELA" and claimed to be a member of the ANC but that wouldn't mean her killing was ANC supported.

    Although it would mean she's very behind in the times. But that's neither here nor there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    Nodin wrote: »
    So if a plane crashes into the sea and the report fails to mention it was flying beforehand, it never happened....with ye now.
    Jeez Noddy, you make it too easy. I knew you would avoid that question because your argument would collapse and you would lose 'internet points'. ;)


  • Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    Well I saw that she was charged with IRA membership and shouted 'Tiocfaidh ár lá' and so I jumped to the (apparently correct) conclusion that she might have been a violent Republican.

    Tiocfaidh ár lá translates to 'Our day will come' and not 'Im a republican'. Any eejit could shout Tiocfaidh ár lá without even knowing what Republicanism is.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    Tiocfaidh ár lá translates to 'Our day will come' and not 'Im a republican'. Any eejit could shout Tiocfaidh ár lá without even knowing what Republicanism is.
    Possibly the stupidest argument I've ever heard. Well played.

    Somebody charged with IRA membership shouting 'Tiocfaidh ár lá' at their trial, and the Sinn Fein branch of the Sherlock Holmes fan club all scratching their chins trying to work out what it all means...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    Jeez Noddy, you make it too easy. I knew you would avoid that question because your argument would collapse and you would lose 'internet points'. ;)

    The question that rests on the presumption that certain obvious facts, if not mentioned, do not in fact exist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Seachmall wrote: »
    She could have shouted "FREE MANDELA" and claimed to be a member of the ANC but that wouldn't mean her killing was ANC supported.

    Although it would mean she's very behind in the times. But that's neither here nor there.
    If she was charged with ANC membership you may have a point. She admitted to IRA membership ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    Possibly the stupidest argument I've ever heard. Well played.

    "Tiocfaidh Ar La!"


    W00t, I'm now a card-carrying member of a dissident republican group!!

    Mum will be so proud!!

    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    If she was charged with ANC membership you may have a point. She admitted to IRA membership ffs.
    I confess I'm a member of the North Korean army.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Seachmall wrote: »
    "Tiocfaidh Ar La!"


    W00t, I'm now a card-carrying member of a dissident republican group!!

    Mum will be so proud!!

    Do ye get a badge?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Norwesterner


    biko wrote: »
    Irish thugs have a history of portraying themselves as freedom fighters while they shoot innocents and deal drugs.
    Not a single Republican is in jail for dealing drugs.
    There are scores of articles where Republican groups have destroyed or handed over tens of thousands of euros in drugs.
    Counter their politics by all means, but don't just parrot propaganda and misinformation.
    I come from a strong Republican area in the North and I know nobody who believes any of the IRA's deal in drugs or tax dealers either.
    Over 200 hundred dealers have been forced from Derry alone. Why force them out if it's alleged they are making millions from taxing dealers.
    It's all lies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    Tiocfaidh ár lá translates to 'Our day will come' and not 'Im a republican'. Any eejit could shout Tiocfaidh ár lá without even knowing what Republicanism is.

    give over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Seachmall wrote: »
    I confess I'm a member of the North Korean army.
    Come back when you are convicted of being a member of the North Korean army by a court who don;t just take your word for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    From what I gather the vast majority of CIRA members and associates in West Dublin (Ballyfermot/Clondalkin) are republican and political in nothing but name. Most of them have never even been across the border. They are just plain old gangland criminals. They are not involved in subversion or terrorism in the North. If the British handed over the six counties in the morning and all the loyalists moved to England next week it would have absolutely no impact on their daily activities and I doubt they would give a sh!t. Could be a different story with the Limerick crew.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Tiocfaidh ár lá translates to 'Our day will come' and not 'Im a republican'. Any eejit could shout Tiocfaidh ár lá without even knowing what Republicanism is.
    No. No you wouldn't.


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