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Maggie Thatcher death discussion thread - Mod rules in first post

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  • #512
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Why, if you despise her so much are you even watching?


  • #513
    --Kaiser--
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    end of the road wrote: »
    Galloway is a great man and a great politician, decent and with a good heart, he has given many years of loyal service to his people and may he give many many more

    I needed a good laugh, thanks


  • #514
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    end of the road wrote: »
    Galloway is a great man and a great politician, decent and with a good heart, he has given many years of loyal service to his people and may he give many many more

    Lol, where is he now, is it Blackburn or Bradford?


  • #515
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    So how many dead and injured civilians does it take before you become a terrorist organisation freedom fighter then?

    Considering the regime they were against, referring to them in any derogatory fashion is taking the piss.
    Northwesterner wrote:
    Tony Blair launched more wars than Thatcher.
    Will his death be celebrated?? ?

    I'd imagine so. He's no reputation now, it'll be worse when Chilcott comes out.
    getz wrote:

    she claimed that the general gave the UK vital support during the falklands war,most notably intelligance which saved many british lives,then chile also started operation soberania,knowing after the falklands they would be next

    She lifted the arms embargo before the falklands war.


  • #516
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    AEDIC wrote: »
    Well to be fair she wasnt the only one

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Former-prime-minister-Haughey-invited-to-Iraq-by-Saddam-Hussein-deputy-136499888.html

    How is that "being fair"?

    Haughey was vermin as well, but Thatcher was endorsing genocide when she was in a position to help put a stop to it.


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  • #517
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Why, if you despise her so much are you even watching?



    You talking to me :)


  • #518
    AEDIC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭AEDIC


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    How is that "being fair"?

    Haughey was vermin as well, but Thatcher was endorsing genocide when she was in a position to help put a stop to it.

    Its a turn of phrase used in these here parts to sort of mean...'well to be honest' in all meaning...she wasnt the only one courting Saddam.

    So I guess you are saying that anyone...at all who courted Saddam was also vermin? Or what are you saying? How was Thatcher endorsing genocide and Haughey (and others) not?


  • #519
    Montroseee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭Montroseee


    The Iron lady.


  • #520
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Why, if you despise her so much are you even watching?

    It's good to keep an eye on the enemy and her supporters.


  • #521
    Madam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Madam


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Seriously?

    The BBC is renowned for being anti Tory.

    First I've heard of it!


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  • #522
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    AEDIC wrote: »
    Its a turn of phrase used in these here parts to sort of mean...'well to be honest' in all meaning...she wasnt the only one courting Saddam.

    So I guess you are saying that anyone...at all who courted Saddam was also vermin? Or what are you saying? How was Thatcher endorsing genocide and Haughey (and others) not?

    Haughey was there for trade.

    Thatcher was a miltary ally of Saddam.

    Big difference.


  • #523
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So, who thinks Maggie did a good job?


  • #524
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Madam wrote: »
    First I've heard of it!

    Indeed, the BBC prides itself on its impartiality. Ironically, I've heard left leaning people claim it's too pro-establishment :D


  • #525
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Madam wrote: »
    First I've heard of it!


    It's an opinion popular amongst Torys.


  • #526
    AEDIC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭AEDIC


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Haughey was there for trade.

    Thatcher was a miltary ally of Saddam.

    Big difference.

    So supporting Saddam then...good, glad we got that cleared up.


  • #527
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Haughey was there for trade.

    Thatcher was a miltary ally of Saddam.

    Big difference.

    In the same way Gaddaffi was to Gerry?


  • #528
    Madam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Madam


    Not me, in fact I think she may have been suffering from a serious dose of megalomonia:(


  • #529
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Rascasse wrote: »
    Let us not forget that it was Labour that deregulated the banks in 1997, and look at the trouble that has caused. Not everything can be blamed on MT.

    Regarding the "short term gain for the very few", actually many average Joes did very well out of the deregulation of the stock market and privatisation. Many of those who worked for privatised companies got share awards and options along with annual share bonus schemes and many other listed companies also created share incentive schemes for their workers. They also created PEP's to allow small investors, such as those receiving shares from a company scheme, to benefit from them without paying tax or CGT.

    Also the Right to Buy scheme and breaking of the stranglehold of the building societies on the mortgage market created an awful lot of opportunity for those in the lower classes to improve their situation.

    Yes, Labour did de-regulate banking because they too got sucked into the short term gain fallacy. Gordon Brown was well aware of the mistakes of deregulation after though.
    The Big Bang made a few rich and is now trying to make the poor put it's mistakes and excesses right. How much that will further destabilise Britain, that has never gotten over how Thatcher's policies carved it up, remains to be seen.


  • #530
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Madam wrote: »
    Not me, in fact I think she may have been suffering from a serious dose of megalomonia:(

    She quite possibly was.


  • #531
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Yes, Labour did de-regulate banking because they too got sucked into the short term gain fallacy. Gordon Brown was well aware of the mistakes of deregulation after though.
    The Big Bang made a few rich and is now trying to make the poor put it mistakes and excesses right. How much that will further destabilise a Britain, that has never gotten over how Thatcher's policies carved it up, remains to be seen.

    Would you mind backing up that statement please.


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  • #532
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    In the same way Gaddaffi was to Gerry?

    And a mate of Thatcher lite Blair for a while, don't forget


  • #533
    TheUsual
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    Madam wrote: »
    First I've heard of it!

    Fratton Fred is the resident Tory so you must be mistaken.
    Then again not too many Tories in Scotland. They are an endangered species.


  • #534
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    TheUsual wrote: »
    Fratton Fred is the resident Tory so you must be mistaken.
    Then again not too many Tories in Scotland. They are an endangered species.

    Oh, nice one. How off the mark could you possibly be?


  • #535
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fratton, you think Thatcher did a good job with regards to foreign policy?


  • #536
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    old hippy wrote: »
    And a mate of Thatcher lite Blair for a while, don't forget

    For a while, yes.


  • #537
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    AEDIC wrote: »
    So supporting Saddam then...good, glad we got that cleared up.

    What exactly was there to clear up? :confused:

    Thatcher supported Saddam's genocide.
    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    In the same way Gaddaffi was to Gerry?

    I've no idea what Thatcher's support of genocide has to do with Libyan arms shipments to PIRA. :confused:


  • #538
    space_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 663 ✭✭✭space_man


    realies wrote: »
    Have to agree with Theusual on this I found ITN much better and balanced in there reports.

    One only has to look back at the tripe that was spouted on BBC during the troubles to realise just how biased an organisation the beeb actually is/was.


  • #539
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    What exactly was there to clear up? :confused:

    Thatcher supported Saddam's genocide.



    I've no idea what Thatcher's support of genocide has to do with Libyan arms shipments to PIRA. :confused:

    Thatcher's support of genocide? ****ing hell, the claims get more and more fanciful.


  • #540
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    old hippy wrote: »
    And a mate of Thatcher lite Blair for a while, don't forget

    Then he signed those contracts with Italy and he was back in the bad books of Britain and France.

    Real Nineteeneightyfour stuff.


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  • #541
    Madam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Madam


    space_man wrote: »
    One only has to look back at the tripe that was spouted on BBC during the troubles to realise just how biased an organisation the beeb actually is/was.

    For instance?


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