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HMV Reopening?

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    #2
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    HMV never folded, they went into administration and have now been saved by the Hilco UK group as you quoted in your link. I'd expect the Grafton Street store to reopen, I don't think it will happen in Limerick though.


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    #3
    iDann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 539 ✭✭✭iDann


    I hope and I'd say the one on Patricks's street,Cork will reopen too, it was very popular and busy.


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    #4
    simon0brien
    Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭simon0brien


    YoungKhalifa wrote: »
    Will HMV re-open?
    This just made my day http://entertainment.ie/music/news/HMVs-UK-operation-comes-out-of-administration-Irish-store-to-re-open/175130.htm?fb_action_ids=10151512826036077&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=timeline_og&action_object_map={%2210151512826036077%22%3A462375593841611}&action_type_map={%2210151512826036077%22%3A%22og.recommends%22}&action_ref_map=[]

    Who cares I can go elsewhere


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    #5
    dodderangler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Sure everyone just downloads sh1t now anyway
    What's the point in music and video stores


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    #6
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    I still prefer CDs. You can rip music from them to your MP3 player anyway, but listening to music on a laptop is utter sh!te, there's no bass and the general quality is just rubbish. Give me any kind of hi-fi over a laptop speaker any day.


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    stek
    Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭stek


    will they accept vouchers previously bought?


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    #8
    cashback
    Registered Users Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭cashback


    dodderangler wrote: »
    Sure everyone just downloads sh1t now anyway
    What's the point in music and video stores

    See I don't get this attitude. Yes people download stuff all the time now and that's grand. But what's wrong with people wanting to buy physical media too? If it's the same price to download an album on itunes or buy the cd, I'd rather buy the hard copy. I can rip it straight onto my laptop and then have the cd to listen to in the car or wherever. Plus if something happened my hard drive, I have some back-up.
    Also I much prefer browsing around an actual shop than searching online.

    But I'm probably in a minority these days.


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    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    cashback wrote: »
    See I don't get this attitude. Yes people download stuff all the time now and that's grand. But what's wrong with people wanting to buy physical media too? If it's the same price to download an album on itunes or buy the cd, I'd rather buy the hard copy. I can rip it straight onto my laptop and then have the cd to listen to in the car or wherever. Plus if something happened my hard drive, I have some back-up.
    Also I much prefer browsing around an actual shop than searching online.

    But I'm probably in a minority these days.

    Among musicians you wouldn't be, or anyone who has the kind of hearing that notices subtle differences in quality. As I say, most songs just sound like utter sh!te coming out of today's laptop speakers (especially Macs, which is bizarre considering Macs are designed for media editing). There just isn't any bass, and whatever you're left with is compressed to hell.

    It's kind of like listening to something through headphones, by turning the volume up incredibly loud and then putting the headphones beside you.

    Of course, if someone manages to create a laptop that can give decent sound quality without having to plug in a bunch of external stuff, I may well change my mind, but for now anything that's worth listening to is going in the CD player for me.


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    debabyjesus
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    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Among musicians you wouldn't be, or anyone who has the kind of hearing that notices subtle differences in quality. As I say, most songs just sound like utter sh!te coming out of today's laptop speakers (especially Macs, which is bizarre considering Macs are designed for media editing). There just isn't any bass, and whatever you're left with is compressed to hell.

    It's kind of like listening to something through headphones, by turning the volume up incredibly loud and then putting the headphones beside you.

    Of course, if someone manages to create a laptop that can give decent sound quality without having to plug in a bunch of external stuff, I may well change my mind, but for now anything that's worth listening to is going in the CD player for me.

    why do you keep mentioning laptops... what has laptops got to do with it?

    I think you're a little confused.


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    combatrock
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    Definitely agree with this but even with the sound quality aspect aside, having a physical copy gives you so much more involvement in the album. The art/photography and style of an album is part of it.


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    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    I still prefer CDs. You can rip music from them to your MP3 player anyway, but listening to music on a laptop is utter sh!te, there's no bass and the general quality is just rubbish. Give me any kind of hi-fi over a laptop speaker any day.

    I agree, physical copies have the best sound whether on record or CD.


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    Tigger
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    flac?


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    #14
    IceFjoem
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    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    I still prefer CDs. You can rip music from them to your MP3 player anyway, but listening to music on a laptop is utter sh!te, there's no bass and the general quality is just rubbish. Give me any kind of hi-fi over a laptop speaker any day.

    Listening to music on laptop speakers has less than f**k all to do with the difference between CDs and MP3s.


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    blatantrereg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭blatantrereg


    You should get one of these:

    http://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Impact-15-Watt-Portable-Amplifier/dp/B00009W44B

    Awesome amp. Used to sell them for a tenner. Normal 3.5" audio jack in and outputs to proper analogue speakers. Music on a laptop sounds great if you put it out through this and a decent pair of speakers.


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    eviltimeban
    Registered Users Posts: 5,088 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    I went through a long phase of downloading stuff, but I found I wasn't connecting with the music as much as when I bought the physical CD. In the last year all the new albums I've gotten have been CDs and I have listened to them constantly. In the past I've downloaded stuff and never even listened to it!

    Anyway, as for HMV, the main issue is price - Amazon are always going to wipe the floor with them, and Tower is often cheaper... For me Tower is a more satisfying music-shopping experience, as it has the feel of an independent store (which of course it is) and more like a "music" shop.

    But ambience aside, HMV need to charge less for CDs. Might seem absurd for a company trying to make money, but its the only way they can compete and they were always very expensive. €21.99 for a new release? I don't think so. That can't work anymore.


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    Geomy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Geomy


    The sound from an mp3 is too shallow,I have some CDs from the 90s and they have more depth and life in them.

    I have the original Prodigy albums on CD and lots of 90s stuff,there's no comparison with quality.


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    aSligoDub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭aSligoDub


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Of course, if someone manages to create a laptop that can give decent sound quality without having to plug in a bunch of external stuff, I may well change my mind, but for now anything that's worth listening to is going in the CD player for me.

    http://www.sonos.com/shop/products/play5


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    schnitzelEater
    Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭schnitzelEater


    What about the vouchers?


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    #20
    Custardpi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    Hilco, has turned around the HMV Canada business it bought in 2011.

    Has anyone ever been to a HMV in Canada, anything majorly different? Interesting also to note their plan to
    halt the sale of other devices to "reclaim the space for an enhanced music and visual range"
    , presumably this means the end of large amounts of floor space being taken up by iPads & Beats headphones, wonder if they'll start having a decent vinyl selection as a replacement.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0405/379808-hmv-in-the-uk-may-be-rescued-in-a-new-deal/


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    Gunmonkey
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    Saw a news report about this a few days ago, they are apparantly going to remove the "tablet sections" and increase the size of the music (heard rumours of vinyl being brought back ages ago, before HMV went under) and games sections (which was rumoured to be cut to make room for the vinyl).


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    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    Is there any realistic hope for the physical copy in this day and age though? I'm only 24 but I still do vinyl and CD's, my father has an extensive collection of both. The music industry has changed greatly in the last decade. The arts of songwriting and musicianship have died a death in popular chart music. These days you've got silly women and boys sprouting processed pop.


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    blatantrereg
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    Is there much of a market for vinyl? I would have thought of it as a niche.
    I would have also thought that they would be making a good bit of their revenue from selling console games. If they really are removing the games for vinyl then it strikes me as something based on branding/image rather than raw sales figures. I very much doubt that rumour is true though.


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    krudler
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    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    I still prefer CDs. You can rip music from them to your MP3 player anyway, but listening to music on a laptop is utter sh!te, there's no bass and the general quality is just rubbish. Give me any kind of hi-fi over a laptop speaker any day.

    I literally don't know a single person who listens to music on their laptop speakers, FLAC on decent headphones sounds great.


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    Custardpi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    blatantrereg wrote: »
    Is there much of a market for vinyl? I would have thought of it as a niche.
    I would have also thought that they would be making a good bit of their revenue from selling console games. If they really are removing the games for vinyl then it strikes me as something based on branding/image rather than raw sales figures. I very much doubt that rumour is true though.

    Vinyl, while still a niche has been growing rapidly in the last few years, more & more people are getting into it or back into it. CDs are likely to disappear from shelves long before vinyl does.


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    lil'bug
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    For me there is nothing like buying a cd, I want to be able to look at the artwork read the lyrics and have the cd in my collection, downloads just don't do it for me. It just seems a bit soulless to me.
    It would be great if HMV opened up again, there are no record shops where I live now they closed


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    blatantrereg
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    They should sell Blu Ray audio players at a reasonable price, and release albums on Blu Ray with very high fidelity sound, again at a reasonable price. Of course people would still be able to download equivalent files, but at least the files would be bigger making it a little less practical to download them and store them.

    I understand the resurgence of vinyl too. Improving that technology would be a good idea also really.

    I think a lot of the woes in the music industry are from their blunt refusal to compete with piracy. The fact is that they aren't going to stamp it out, and it's not going to go away. They need to take a positive approach and provide better reasons for people to want to buy a physical copy rather than just get a pirate one.


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    #28
    Ando's Saggy Bottom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Ando's Saggy Bottom


    Would be nice to have somewhere to wander around when the missus is off shopping again.


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    cloud493
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    I will be very happy about this, since it means I can start avoiding gamestop again :pac:


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    Sulla Felix
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    HMV never folded, they went into administration and have now been saved by the Hilco UK group as you quoted in your link. I'd expect the Grafton Street store to reopen, I don't think it will happen in Limerick though.
    Not if they can't shed that lease, I'd bet Henry St would be more likely. Even this Xmas it was busier than the Grafton branch.


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    McLoughlin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    blatantrereg wrote: »
    Is there much of a market for vinyl? I would have thought of it as a niche.
    I would have also thought that they would be making a good bit of their revenue from selling console games. If they really are removing the games for vinyl then it strikes me as something based on branding/image rather than raw sales figures. I very much doubt that rumour is true though.

    When you look at the Irish music scene there is a large amount of bands putting out albums on vinyl so there is a great demand for it.


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