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Pat Rabbitte sacked by the public!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭paperwork


    S0crates wrote: »
    Pat Rabbitte was enjoying a meal in a restaurant like any normal person. It is not in his job description to answer the questions of any incoherent loon whose company he is unfortunately unable to avoid, just because said fool feels like airing some grievances. Judging by the other clientèle of the establishment, it is not a snooty restaurant and even if Mr. Rabbitte was adding the bill to his expenses, under the right circumstances he is entitled to do so, as is the same for many government ministers or businessmen globally. €40 is not going to save this economy, lower spending and higher taxes will, however unpalatable you may find that.

    As for the gentleman who was subsequently arrested in a fracas, I only skimmed through the video but it appeared that he was warned numerous times that if he did not move along on his merry way he would be arrested. At this point he has two choices, and he seems to think he is some kind of martyr as he resists the inevitable arrest, as if he was achieving more than just embarrassing himself and his family and wasting Garda time. Even if perhaps the Garda did not have a genuine reason to send the gentleman on his way, he should have had the cop-on not to try and take a stand.

    Regarding the rest of the hecklers in the video, they seem to be unworthy of much attention. I would imagine most are probably relatively unsuccessful and frustrated with their lives, but being too stupid or immature to acknowledge their own shortcomings in their lives thus far, are keen to point the finger at anyone else in a desperate attempt to justify their beliefs to themselves that it is not because they didn't work hard enough that they are not where they want to be, it is the politicians' fault, the bankers' fault or anyone else's fault but their own apparently.

    Mr. Rabbitte is doing his best for this country and does not deserve abuse from onlookers in his personal life. Nobody here has as much experience and knowledge of government as he does, and most who claim they do exist in a fantasy gaga-land of their own where we can just tax the rich at 90% and there's enough money to go around for ALL their little pet projects. Funny how none of those people I ever met have done significant study of economics. They are usually armchair administrators who think with a few strokes, all of Ireland's woes could be solved in a day.

    Finally I must note how ridiculous those who reprimanded Mr. Rabbitte for not intervening with the Gardai arresting the other gentleman. What kind of a state would we be in if we had government ministers clashing with Gardai in public telling them not to do their job? Thank goodness Mr Rabbitte is not so egotistical that he thinks he can step in and overrule any member of our police force in an attempt to gain cheap popularity. The attitudes of some people in this country would boggle anyone's mind.

    Typical FF poisoned attitude, don't ask about the offshore oil because you might sound crazy, don't bother the crooked politicians because they are just doing their job.

    I can only imagine that you're lucky enough not to have had your life effected by the reckless acts of people like Rabbitte.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    Think they shouod employ that graham dude that wasnt let into the nightclub

    He would quickley gather a mob


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭Peetrik


    Fair play to the guy for demanding answers. "Isn't that what you tend to do during an election" is not an acceptable position to take for doing a u-turn on promises you make to get elected. There should be mandatory jail terms for clearly breaking election promises. Would solve these populist stances to get into power in a hurry IMO.

    TLDR: The mans a cnut


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭15Pete


    paperwork wrote: »
    Typical FF poisoned attitude, don't ask about the offshore oil because you might sound crazy, don't bother the crooked politicians because they are just doing their job.

    I can only imagine that you're lucky enough not to have had your life effected by the reckless acts of people like Rabbitte.

    I am not aligned with any political party. I find it difficult to believe that Pat Rabbitte has ever intentionally affected anyone's life in a negative way. True, some of his actions may have had bad consequences for some people, but generally these decisions are made to minimise the overall suffering, so to affect as few people as possible. There are no answers that make everyone happy.

    By all means, ask about offshore oil through the correct medium, not accosting a man having dinner. Have these people no class? No, do not bother politicians when they are not working because it only serves to alienate them from the man on the street and foster disharmony. Write to a member of the Dáil if you feel passionately on an issue, that's what normal, educated, civil, respectable people do. According to your logic a football manager should be swarmed out for dinner by hecklers if his team are performing badly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    awec wrote: »
    The bit where the lad gets arrested and some woman tries to start a sing song along the lines of "this is what democracy looks like" is hilarious.

    What that clearly proves is that we need to get the fluoride out of our public water supply and we give out far too many prescription pills on the medical card.

    We are a failing state. :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭Dwork


    Mayoman911 wrote: »
    Yes, shout at the man while he's trying to eat a meal in peace. That'll work....
    What a bunch of subservient cap doffers we have in this country. Ohh, he's Pat rabbitte, sure you can't speak to him... fcuk off. Good on your man. If there were more people with a gob on them, the pols might be a bit more careful what they do.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,727 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Dwork wrote: »
    What a bunch of subservient cap doffers we have in this country. Ohh, he's Pat rabbitte, sure you can't speak to him... fcuk off. Good on your man. If there were more people with a gob on them, the pols might be a bit more careful what they do.

    If there were more people who voted in the elections that would be a better start.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    Was that starters?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Joshua J


    Sergeant wrote: »
    Is there nothing the elite won't do? Look at Pat sitting there enjoying a meal IN A RESTAURANT when he should be trying to save this country. I bet he plays golf and has a jacuzzi bath is his larger-than-average 4 bedroom home as well.


    Makes me want to puke.

    Sycophants make me want to puke.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Dwork wrote: »
    What a bunch of subservient cap doffers we have in this country. Ohh, he's Pat rabbitte, sure you can't speak to him... fcuk off. Good on your man. If there were more people with a gob on them, the pols might be a bit more careful what they do.

    That's complete nonsense.

    Mature adults air their grievances in a civilised way. A letter, a polite phonecall, a request for a meeting, a lobbying of other party members to speak on your behalf. It doesn't mean you're subservient, it just means you have manners and good etiquette.

    Loudly and brashly interrupting a man having a meal in private is the carry on of a buffoon. Its not big, or clever. I have no idea what the point the fella was trying to make, because as soon as I heard his foghorn voice and tone, I switched the video off and formed my opinion. Thankfully most of society recognises that behaviour like that belongs in the schoolyard, or the cattle mart.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭Dwork


    That's complete nonsense.

    Mature adults air their grievances in a civilised way. A letter, a polite phonecall, a request for a meeting, a lobbying of other party members to speak on your behalf. It doesn't mean you're subservient, it just means you have manners and good etiquette.

    Loudly and brashly interrupting a man having a meal in private is the carry on of a buffoon. Its not big, or clever. I have no idea what the point the fella was trying to make, because as soon as I heard his foghorn voice and tone, I switched the video off and formed my opinion. Thankfully most of society recognises that behaviour like that belongs in the schoolyard, or the cattle mart.
    You've watched coverage of the Dail so, I presume.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,370 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    It did and there was a thread here about it.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=80454461

    The thread's so old, the post numbers are in Roman numerals.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Dwork wrote: »
    You've watched coverage of the Dail so, I presume.

    Yes, its a chamber of debate. Not a restaurant. Robust debate is to be expected in one but not the other.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    Do you think that Pat Rabbitte, as a - for the latter part of his life - committed social democrat actually sits down at his desk every day and makes difficult decisions for the laugh of it? He became a member of government during a period of extraordinary economic turmoil. Unprecedented decisions had to made, and if the government can be accused of anything, it's that they haven't made the deep cuts necessary, sooner.

    We still live in a country with one of the highest standards of living in the world, and with a social welfare system that is extraordinarily generous by any reasonable measurement.

    People are finding it tough, but this kind of thuggery and thickness being highlighted as a form of legitimate protest is idiotic in the extreme.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭Dwork


    Sergeant wrote: »
    Do you think that Pat Rabbitte, as a - for the latter part of his life - committed social democrat actually sits down at his desk every day and makes difficult decisions for the laugh of it? He became a member of government during a period of extraordinary economic turmoil. Unprecedented decisions had to made, and if the government can be accused of anything, it's that they haven't made the deep cuts necessary, sooner.

    We still live in a country with one of the highest standards of living in the world, and with a social welfare system that is extraordinarily generous by any reasonable measurement.

    People are finding it tough, but this kind of thuggery and thickness being highlighted as a form of legitimate protest is idiotic in the extreme.
    I think it's great and we need far, far more of it. We are far too subservient to our so called "leaders". I find the silence and acceptance to be far more repugnant than an honest man vocally expressing his exasperation at the rotten standards of Politics. Nothing worse than a nation of humble lick-spittles. They need shouting at a hell of a lot more. "Highest standards of living" - pull the other one, it's got bells on. You've been to a hospital lately, right? You live in a fantasy world of government approval. Luckily, you're a member of a diminishing minority.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    Dwork wrote: »
    I think it's great and we need far, far more of it. We are far too subservient to our so called "leaders". I find the silence and acceptance to be far more repugnant than an honest man vocally expressing his exasperation at the rotten standards of Politics. Nothing worse than a nation of humble lick-spittles. They need shouting at a hell of a lot more. "Highest standards of living" - pull the other one, it's got bells on. You've been to a hospital lately, right? You live in a fantasy world of government approval. Luckily, you're a member of a diminishing minority.

    During the 'Celtic Tiger', FF lead governments bought elections by appeasing the unions and employing thousands of extra non-core staff in all areas of the public service.

    We pour billions of euros into a public health service that never worked as efficiently as it could. It's a fiasco.

    Yet any attempt to change things is met with howls of the type of righteous indignation that seems to appeal to those who have all the questions, but very few of the answers.

    Any ideas how we plug a 12 billion gap, and maintain the perks and services we feel we should be accustomed to? Back of a fag packet type ideas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Mayoman911 wrote: »
    Yes, shout at the man while he's trying to eat a meal in peace. That'll work....

    Pat does'nt look like he's ever gone hungry for long

    He should be afraid to stick his noise out the front door for the scorn that will be poured upon him, as should every fianna failer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Sergeant wrote: »
    During the 'Celtic Tiger', FF lead governments bought elections by appeasing the unions and employing thousands of extra non-core staff in all areas of the public service.


    Did they appease you too? Just a weensy teensy bit? Its okay you can admit it, you were'nt the only victim of appeasement. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    paperwork wrote: »
    People who are standing up for Rabbitte are being extremely childish
    Childish for saying that the guy who lit into him was being a dick and no guarantee that those who feel that way have even a hint of time for Rabbitte? The guy who had a go at him while he was merely having a meal is the childish one.
    The accusations of "You must be a FG voter" are boring and lacking any thought whatsoever.

    It is possible to have never voted FG ever (i.e. me) and have issues with the government (the bank bailouts and the bloated government salaries in my case; otherwise though, I don't hold a grudge against them for not waving a magic wand and working miracles) yet still to consider that guy's lazy, unbrave, unthinking act against an easy target to be extremely prickish. It does not make a person pathetically deferential either - they could be anything but.

    Protesting in a dignified manner rather than acting like a haranguing tit (which will just cause the government to laugh at you and give them an excuse to get heavyhanded with you) is good IMO - it doesn't achieve much, but it's important to voice your concerns. Something like this and the Joan Burton spectacle in Dundalk though is likely to achieve even less.
    The notion that the government are evil people out to get us and enjoying making us miserable is really dumb.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,495 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Madam_X wrote: »
    The accusations of "You must be a FG voter" are boring and lacking any thought whatsoever.

    Good grief, you must be a FG voter.





    :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    Bambi wrote: »
    Did they appease you too? Just a weensy teensy bit? Its okay you can admit it, you were'nt the only victim of appeasement. ;)

    Do you have anything to contribute to the debate, or would you rather just engage in ad hominem attacks?

    Why do you feel that Pat Rabbitte should be subjected to such abuse?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Sergeant wrote: »
    Do you have anything to contribute to the debate, or would you rather just engage in ad hominem attacks?

    Why do you feel that Pat Rabbitte should be subjected to such abuse?

    You assume its an ad hominem attack, I'm just pointing out when you're on about fianna fail bribing unions you somehow forget to mention them bribing every tax payer in the country with their budgets, including your good self no doubt. Funny dat.

    I haven't watched the video so I dont know what abuse rabbite was given but I do know one thing the likes of rabbite responds to is when every time they stick their beak out in public there's a strong possibility that the public will stick their beak into them. Strongly worded letters to the times and facebook statuses don't cut it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Dwork wrote: »
    I think it's great and we need far, far more of it. We are far too subservient to our so called "leaders". I find the silence and acceptance to be far more repugnant than an honest man vocally expressing his exasperation at the rotten standards of Politics. Nothing worse than a nation of humble lick-spittles. They need shouting at a hell of a lot more. "Highest standards of living" - pull the other one, it's got bells on. You've been to a hospital lately, right? You live in a fantasy world of government approval. Luckily, you're a member of a diminishing minority.

    If a customer in your job dislikes the way you do it then comes across you on a night out, is it ok for them to shout at you in the manner of the video? Or is it only for other people in other jobs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Maybe a deal.

    If I'm a politician, you can come over and abuse me when I'm having a pint or dinner but I can kick your head in and you don't run crying to the police or Internet.

    Fair's fair.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Just remembered this clip from 2010:



    Still think that the ignoramus and his merry band of chanting and clapping buffoons that attacked Rabitte were fools.

    But to be fair, Rabitte is no stranger to doing a bit of populist ranting.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    He has his dinner disturbed,boo fucking hoo,if they waited for him to finish his meal would that have been ok then?.If they're there to represent the public then they should be prepared to be in interaction with the public,in the public,whether that is "rude" or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭Dwork


    If a customer in your job dislikes the way you do it then comes across you on a night out, is it ok for them to shout at you in the manner of the video? Or is it only for other people in other jobs?
    No idea, I've never sh4t all over peoples lives as a result of my inept handling of my work. If I had, I'd expect flak. And I'd deserve it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    He has his dinner disturbed,boo fucking hoo,if they waited for him to finish his meal would that have been ok then?.If they're there to represent the public then they should be prepared to be in interaction with the public,in the public,whether that is "rude" or not.

    Would that extend to people camping outside his house? Why the hell would anyone become a politician and be subjected to such abuse? The same politicians that people feel should have their salaries cut.

    Where does it stop? A bit of flagellation outside the Dáil of a Tuesday morning to appease the plain people of Ireland?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭Dwork


    Sergeant wrote: »
    Would that extend to people camping outside his house? Why the hell would anyone become a politician and be subjected to such abuse? The same politicians that people feel should have their salaries cut.

    Where does it stop? A bit of flagellation outside the Dáil of a Tuesday morning to appease the plain people of Ireland?
    Probably stops when people feel they are doing a good job. Which might be a long while coming.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Dwork wrote: »
    No idea, I've never sh4t all over peoples lives as a result of my inept handling of my work. If I had, I'd expect flak. And I'd deserve it.

    Bull **** you would. Youd be on here whinging about some ignorant **** that walked over in the middle of your dinner and started screaming at you.

    If you have a complaint in a shop or a restaurant do you go straight to shouting at the person working there btw?
    Dwork wrote: »
    Probably stops when people feel they are doing a good job. Which might be a long while coming.

    No matter what you do, there will always be some headcase that will complain. Work in retail for a while and you'll see that. So with that in mind, you feel its ok to abuse people in public about their jobs?

    You cant please all of the people all of the time , mostly because some of the people are ****ing crazy.


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