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Good Friday...where can you legal drink

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  • #92
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,306 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »

    Possibly a more interesting question is, do late bars and clubs have to close early on Thursday night?

    Yes, all must shut at the dot of 12 on Thursday night.

    *****
    Love Good Friday myself.

    If it stopped being a special religious day, and became just a normal day, then I doubt very much my 9-5 office would be shut.

    So I'm willing to take the inconvenience of having to buy my drink the day before for the super mega bonus of having the Friday off.

    I quite like the day anyway, the ultimate 'nothing much to do but laze around day'.


  • #93
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    its 1 day ffs
    no, not good enough, i should be able to drink when i see fit, this law is backward and has no place in a modern society, if people want to observe it fine i've no problem with that but i should be able to go to a pub on good friday if i want to and if i don't well then i don't.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #94
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    No, because then there would be about 4 'actual' Catholics in the world.

    And?


  • #95
    StickyIcky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 899 ✭✭✭StickyIcky


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

    No, because then there would be about 4 'actual' Catholics in the world.

    Now that sounds like my kind of heaven :-P


  • #96
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »



    You have been given a reason. Its the law, as decided by the people. You may not be happy that you live in a Catholic country, but you do.

    Ah, the law.
    I think my favorite one is the blasphemy law of 2010........... as decided by the people, in the best possible taste.


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  • #97
    Yitzhak Rabin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Seachmall wrote: »
    And?

    You ascribing a definition which is flawed.

    Being a Catholic means believing in the Catholic church's teachings. If you don't follow them through human weakness, that doesn't make you no longer a Catholic, it just means you suck at being one.

    I'm not a catholic myself, was raised in a different religious setting, but as I understand it, the church believes anyone who is baptised is a catholic. So surely, if the church says that they are Catholic, and they identify as Catholic, then they're freaking Catholics??


  • #98
    humbert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    No true Scotsman stuff. You can't tell someone that they're not a true catholic, because you say so. They identify as Catholic, they're Catholic.

    I remember before the census, all the campaigns, and efforts people went to to try and pressurise people into ticking no religion. The atheist lobby was shivering with anticipation of a major drop off in the number of Catholics. It seemed like they thought the census was important before the results were published. As soon as they realised it didn't suit their agenda, they just wave it off.
    If there was a large drop it would be a powerful indication of the changing views of the people of this country but its not having changed doesn't indicate that people's views aren't changing. If you don't do any of the things the church teaches then you are not a Catholic any more than me calling myself a Muslim would make me a Muslim or calling myself the son of God would make me Jesus.

    More importantly you are implying that because 84% percent ticked the Catholic box 84% percent agree with the banning of alcohol, which is patently false.
    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »


    You have been given a reason. Its the law, as decided by the people. You may not be happy that you live in a Catholic country, but you do.
    I didn't say I needed a reason, I said I need a reason I felt was just. An antiquated law that hasn't been repealed because the people who support the ban feel much more strongly about it and would be much more vocal than the people who would like to see it abolished isn't a just reason.

    Accepting something solely on the basis that 'it's the law' or 'we live in a Catholic country' is moronic.


  • #99
    Yitzhak Rabin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    mikom wrote: »
    Ah, the law.
    I think my favorite one is the blasphemy law of 2010........... as decided by the people, in the best possible taste.

    Do you understand how a constitutional democracy works?

    The minister at the time was just aligning what our constitution says with our legislation. It was a loophole that needed closing.

    Personally, I'd be against the law (and I believe its unenforceable) but I will obey it none the less, as I have respect for the law of the land.


  • #100
    StickyIcky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 899 ✭✭✭StickyIcky


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

    You ascribing a definition which is flawed.

    Being a Catholic means believing in the Catholic church's teachings. If you don't follow them through human weakness, that doesn't make you no longer a Catholic, it just means you suck at being one.

    I'm not a catholic myself, was raised in a different religious setting, but as I understand it, the church believes anyone who is baptised is a catholic. So surely, if the church says that they are Catholic, and they identify as Catholic, then they're freaking Catholics??

    Oh yeah because some pedo splashed water on my head when I was a baby that gives them the right to claim me as a Catholic does it?

    Jog off pal.


  • #101
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    Being a Catholic means believing in the Catholic church's teachings.

    And how many Catholics genuinely believe they consume the body and blood of Christ?

    I'd guess not many but apparently I don't need to.


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  • #102
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    Do you understand how a constitutional democracy works?

    Yes.
    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    The minister at the time was just aligning what our constitution says with our legislation. It was a loophole that needed closing.

    Realignment promised as well as loophole to be re-opened.
    Making it up as they go along
    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    Personally, I'd be against the law (and I believe its unenforceable) but I will obey it none the less, as I have respect for the law of the land.

    Maith an fear.....


  • #103
    Yitzhak Rabin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    StickyIcky wrote: »
    Oh yeah because some pedo splashed water on my head when I was a baby that gives them the right to claim me as a Catholic does it?

    Jog off pal.

    You missed the important part where I said the person self-identifies as a Catholic.

    You seem like a charming fella though. Calling your Parish Priest, the man who provided spiritual guidance for you in your formative years a "pedo(sic)". Disgraceful.


  • #104
    delw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭delw


    StickyIcky wrote: »
    Oh yeah because some pedo splashed water on my head when I was a baby that gives them the right to claim me as a Catholic does it?

    Jog off pal.
    If you got baptized your parents must of allowed "the pedo" to splash water on your head


  • #105
    StickyIcky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 899 ✭✭✭StickyIcky


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

    You missed the important part where I said the person self-identifies as a Catholic.

    You seem like a charming fella though. Calling your Parish Priest, the man who provided spiritual guidance for you in your formative years a "pedo(sic)". Disgraceful.

    Actually he was a pedo pal, he went to jail for it and everything. Really lucky for me cus I was 7 and an alter boy at the time and he used to call me his special one and ask me did I know what that meant, like I was supposed to know. Luckily he got dragged off to jail before he got his filthy rotten disgusting pedo hands on me but not so lucky for those two poor boys who reported him.

    So yeah, like I said before pal. Jog off and don't judge people while you're at it.


  • #106
    Karen23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭Karen23


    I love Good Friday , only time OH ever gets a Friday night off.


  • #107
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    Calling your Parish Priest, the man who provided spiritual guidance for you in your formative years a "pedo(sic)". Disgraceful.
    StickyIcky wrote: »
    Actually he was a pedo pal, he went to jail for it and everything. Really lucky for me cus I was 7 and an alter boy at the time and he used to call me his special one and ask me did I know what that meant, like I was supposed to know. Luckily he got dragged off to jail before he got his filthy rotten disgusting pedo hands on me but not so lucky for those two poor boys who reported him.


    Disgraceful.
    Still, he was probably a kiddie fiddler via constitutional democracy.


  • #108
    Yitzhak Rabin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    StickyIcky wrote: »
    Actually he was a pedo pal, he went to jail for it and everything. Really lucky for me cus I was 7 and an alter boy at the time and he used to call me his special one and ask me did I know what that meant, like I was supposed to know. Luckily he got dragged off to jail before he got his filthy rotten disgusting pedo hands on me but not so lucky for those two poor boys who reported him.

    So yeah, like I said before pal. Jog off and don't judge people while you're at it.

    Apologies. Sounds like a nasty character. I thought you were just calling the man a paedophile because he was a priest (It's a common thing for internet atheists to do). Didn't realise you meant it in the actual sense of the word. Hope the man received a harsh sentence.


  • #109
    Yitzhak Rabin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    mikom wrote: »
    Still, he was probably a kiddie fiddler via constitutional democracy.

    Can you expand on what you mean. I'm not catching your drift?


  • #110
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    84% of this country is catholic.
    no it isn't, a large number of people just put "catholic" down on forms but don't practice the religion and spend most of their lives criticising it.
    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    You're not being oppressed because you can't go and have pints in a pub on good Friday.
    no, but i'm having a law which was brought in for religious reasons forced down my throat, as i said if people want to observe not eating meat or not drinking on good friday, fine, thats their right, i don't have one problem with it, but just don't force your beliefs on me, that is all that is being said

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #111
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    I'm delighted the pubs are shut on good Friday. The law forbids me to have a toke 365 days of the year, so I'm delighted all ye alchos can't get a beer. :pac:


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  • #112
    StickyIcky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 899 ✭✭✭StickyIcky


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

    Apologies. Sounds like a nasty character. I thought you were just calling the man a paedophile because he was a priest (It's a common thing for internet atheists to do). Didn't realise you meant it in the actual sense of the word. Hope the man received a harsh sentence.

    That's what happens when you make assumptions pal. Try to keep an open mind and realise that half the things you think or assume might not actually be true. Remeber humanity believed in things for hundreds of years before we all collectively realised we were wrong. And just because the majority of us believe something now, or follow some law now, doesn't mean we're right either or that law or belief system will be abolished and will be seen as being as archaic as a flat earth or a wind god or a sun that revolves around the earth does now.

    Any belief system that infringes on peoples rights to be free and do as they please as long as they don't hurt anyone else is what should against the law in my opinion.


  • #113
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    Can you expand on what you mean. I'm not catching your drift?

    Well spotted on the breach of the blasphemy law as brought in via constitutional democracy.....

    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    Calling your Parish Priest, the man who provided spiritual guidance for you in your formative years a "pedo(sic)". Disgraceful.


  • #114
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    You can't tell someone that they're not a true catholic, because you say so. They identify as Catholic, they're Catholic.
    rubbish, you don't identify yourself as being part of a religion that you don't practice in any way, it would be like me putting muslim down on a form as my religion even though i don't practice any religion and don't believe in it
    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    Its the law, as decided by the people.
    realy? was their a referendum on it? if not, then it wasn't decided by the people, but the government.
    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    You may not be happy that you live in a Catholic country, but you do.
    were not a catholic country anymore, we have many religions these days and as has been said many people just tick catholic on a form but laugh at the religion.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #115
    McDermotX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,096 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Anybody who has an issue with the current law in place, get onto a few of these lads and highlight it to any group who can raise public awareness etc etc

    http://www.oireachtas.ie/members-hist/default.asp?housetype=0

    No point bleating on about the Church and Catholics on here.....they won't be able to help you. We're all subject to the law in place whatever would be decided in any question around a current laws' validity.
    If you're happy the way it is or are just happy to mouth off on an internet forum about how your 'rights' are being impinged, good luck to you - as far as the law is concerned, you're clearly happy to continue on.


  • #116
    Yitzhak Rabin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    end of the road wrote: »
    rubbish, you don't identify yourself as being part of a religion that you don't practice in any way, it would be like me putting muslim down on a form as my religion even though i don't practice any religion and don't believe in it
    No it wouldn't. You do not believe yourself to be a Muslim, you do not believe in the teachings of Islam. You are not culturally Islamic. You are not a Muslim.

    That's not what I described with people who ticked Catholic. They meet all of the above criteria.
    realy? was their a referendum on it? if not, then it wasn't decided by the people, but the government.

    You can't have a referendum on every little thing for God's sake! A country can't run like that. No-one is going to hold a referendum with the Question "Should we all be allowed get pissed on Good Friday" Get real.

    You have to follow the democratic process. Lobby your TD if you feel strongly about it. Get others to do the same. If you gather enough support (You won't as 84% of people are Catholic) then you can get them to change the law.


  • #117
    Dodd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Dodd


    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    its 1 day ffs

    One person not invited to my GF party.:)


  • #118
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    If you gather enough support (You won't as 84% of people are Catholic)
    how won't i? just because somebody ticks the catholic box even though they don't practice or have anything to do with the religion doesn't mean they won't support me, whether you like it or not 84 % of the people in this country are not catholic so i don't see why i won't have much support, claiming to be something doesn't make you that something.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #119
    narddog
    Site Banned Posts: 165 ✭✭narddog


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    Lets celebrate Jesus dying


    I'm all up for celebrating a fairy tale.


  • #120
    narddog
    Site Banned Posts: 165 ✭✭narddog


    end of the road wrote: »
    no, not good enough, i should be able to drink when i see fit, this law is backward and has no place in a modern society, if people want to observe it fine i've no problem with that but i should be able to go to a pub on good friday if i want to and if i don't well then i don't.

    Spot on. Religon should have no input into the day to day running of a country. You want to observe GF, knock yourself out. Leave me out of it.


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  • #121
    murraykil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 460 ✭✭murraykil


    bluewolf wrote: »
    You can legally drink in your home :confused:

    Yes but James O'Reilly is going to tax the **** out of that because the Vinter's Federation HSE want you drinking in the pub! It's healthier apparantly and it's for your own good!


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