Woman avoids jail after 'catapulting' man off bike due to poor visibility

JRant · 23-03-2013 04:00PM

People like this are a menace to every other road user around.
I mean what sort of half-wit drives around not being able to see out the windscreen.

Montroseee · 23-03-2013 04:01PM

JRant wrote: »

People like this are a menace to every other road user around.
I mean what sort of half-wit drives around not being able to see out the windscreen.

One that is a serious danger to other road users and should never be given the opportunity to drive again.

JRant · 23-03-2013 04:07PM

minidazzler wrote: »

No insurance is a serious driving offence?

Well, yes it is, say for instance your in an accident. Now having insurance means that if you are at fault any injured party will have recourse to compensation, no insurance means a double whammy on the victim.

Nabber · 23-03-2013 04:14PM

I hate these pointless pieces in news articles.

Mr Comiskey O’Keefe said his client became pregnant with her first child when she was 17 years old but sat the Leaving Certificate two weeks after giving birth.

entropi · 23-03-2013 04:16PM

Nabber wrote: »

I hate these pointless pieces in news articles.

Mr Comiskey O’Keefe said his client became pregnant with her first child when she was 17 years old but sat the Leaving Certificate two weeks after giving birth.

They always play the sympathy card, seems to work on most judgements :rolleyes:

She's guilty, admitted it, and should have been jailed for it.

JRant · 23-03-2013 04:19PM

Montroseee wrote: »

One that is a serious danger to other road users and should never be given the opportunity to drive again.

Yes indeed, and she'll be at it again in a few short years no doubt. But it's all good apparrently, having your own business and a child at 17 absolves one from everything.

Mr. Manager · 23-03-2013 04:26PM

Did she at least have to cover the victims medical bills? 12 months of treatment can't be cheap...

Montroseee · 23-03-2013 04:29PM

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Did she at least have to cover the victims medical bills? 12 months of treatment can't be cheap...

Seemingly not, I'm sure it was either the victim's own health insurance or the taxpayer covering that.

kingofslaves · 23-03-2013 04:30PM

I'm confused , was she banned or not ?

King, a mother of two, of Riverside, Clondalkin, pleaded guilty to dangerous driving causing serious harm on Monastery Road, Clondalkin on October 16, 2010.

She had one previous conviction for failing to give a breath sample and was banned from driving for four years in December 2010.

If she hit the guy in October 2010 then that was before this was it not ?

Fr_Dougal · 23-03-2013 04:35PM

kingofslaves wrote: »

I'm confused , was she banned or not ?

King, a mother of two, of Riverside, Clondalkin, pleaded guilty to dangerous driving causing serious harm on Monastery Road, Clondalkin on October 16, 2010.

She had one previous conviction for failing to give a breath sample and was banned from driving for four years in December 2010.

If she hit the guy in October 2010 then that was before this was it not ?

She might have been given some time to get her affairs in order before the ban took place. Either way she should be locked up, scumbag.

ahnowbrowncow · 23-03-2013 04:43PM

The garlic man... stupid judges

Montroseee · 23-03-2013 05:35PM

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

The garlic man... stupid judges

Sentencing is so wildly inconsistent, makes a joke of the whole system

anncoates · 23-03-2013 06:38PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

How nice of him.

He stopped when he hit her.

What is exactly wrong with what was said?

Anybody that willingly drives with the window frozen over like that should be Jailed. I'm sorry, but it's colossal stupidity to drive a vehicle with no visibility.

How many kids she has, however, and when and with whom she had them has no relevance to this case.

anncoates · 23-03-2013 06:39PM

Nabber wrote: »

I hate these pointless pieces in news articles.

Mr Comiskey O’Keefe said his client became pregnant with her first child when she was 17 years old but sat the Leaving Certificate two weeks after giving birth.

Don't read the Indo then.

Private Piles · 23-03-2013 07:04PM

When I read this earlier I thought; well maybe the wing mirror clipped his bike and sent him flying. If she had on her fans trying to clear her windscreen, it's very likely she wouldn't have heard anything.

But then, later in the story, it says that the passer who came on the man picked up the pieces off plastic, etc from her car..... so it was clearly a violent enough bang.....there is no way in fcukin hell you could just dismiss that kind of noise and think it's something not serious enough to stop and investigate. And you'd feel it in the car, lying b****.

_Kaiser_ · 23-03-2013 07:12PM

I guarantee if it had been a fella that hit this poor guy and drove off, he'd have had the book thrown at him.

Between crooked judges and incompetence like that displayed in this case, is it any wonder (like so much else about Ireland) "justice" is a joke :mad:

anncoates · 23-03-2013 07:29PM

I'd say gender has nothing to do with this except perhaps he took the fact she was the sole carer for her kids into account.

After reading that article, I was slightly annoyed (and relived for the guy) that the reporting of mild brain damage seemed to be a bit sensationalist although that's not to excuse the driver in any way.

humbert · 23-03-2013 07:29PM

Looks like Judge McCartan has a soft spot for hit and run drivers, at least when cyclists are involved.

(before anyone says it, the cyclist obviously should have been lit up but that in no way excuses killing someone and driving on)

P_1 · 23-03-2013 08:00PM

humbert wrote: »

Looks like Judge McCartan has a soft spot for hit and run drivers, at least when cyclists are involved.

(before anyone says it, the cyclist obviously should have been lit up but that in no way excuses killing someone and driving on)

TBH that sentence was a pretty good one. I wonder if exile would be a better deterrent to crime than imprisonment?

Boombastic · 23-03-2013 08:09PM

I thought she only went to the Gardai when she saw her car smashed up because she thought her ex-boyfriend damaged it

Quotes from the Indo

She noticed her windscreen was broken and assumed her former partner, who she had difficulties with in the past, had attacked her car...........................She said King arrived at the garda station four hours after the accident to report the damage done to her car.

When the garda examined the vehicle she realised it was the one that had been involved in the accident and cautioned King.

Also who the fcuk doesn't notice hitting something so hard that their wing mirror falls off? Or when you go to look in the wing mirros think to yourself, ' Wow,Shouldn't there be a mirror there?' :Pac:

The same man also recovered debris from the road, which included a wing mirror and broken bits of plastic

WoollyRedHat · 23-03-2013 08:34PM

anncoates wrote: »

He stopped when he hit her.

What is exactly wrong with what was said?

Anybody that willingly drives with the window frozen over like that should be Jailed. I'm sorry, but it's colossal stupidity to drive a vehicle with no visibility.

How many kids she has, however, and when and with whom she had them has no relevance to this case.

Nothing, I'm joking, it's the tone that it could be read from it that I was joking about

fasttalkerchat · 23-03-2013 10:27PM

The reporting of this story was very strange. I have no doubt the woman was in the wrong for not properly clearing her windows and waiting a few mins until the car heated up.

However, it says neither the driver nor the cyclist saw each other despite the driver saying she could see kids playing. How is that possible?

Private Piles · 23-03-2013 10:33PM

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

The reporting of this story was very strange. I have no doubt the woman was in the wrong for not properly clearing her windows and waiting a few mins until the car heated up.

However, it says neither the driver nor the cyclist saw each other despite the driver saying she could see kids playing. How is that possible?

The part about her thinking that the noise and damage caused to windscreen was caused by her partner is even more baffling. I'm presuming the smashed windscreen happened when the cyclist was bounced off it..... so she saw kids playing on street, but failed to spot the fully grown adult man who just landed on her windscreen? Right :rolleyes:

- ''She said she noticed four children playing on one side of the road and then heard a loud bang. She noticed her windscreen was broken and assumed her former partner, who she had difficulties with in the past, had attacked her car.''

mapaco · 23-03-2013 10:38PM

DaDumTish wrote: »

After King entered into her bond Judge McCartan told her; “You made a dreadful mistake but put it behind you. I believe you have the resilience to do so. Everything else about you impresses me.”

2 words....big knockers :rolleyes:

kraggy · 23-03-2013 11:12PM

Private Piles wrote: »

The part about her thinking that the noise and damage caused to windscreen was caused by her partner is even more baffling. I'm presuming the smashed windscreen happened when the cyclist was bounced off it..... so she saw kids playing on street, but failed to spot the fully grown adult man who just landed on her windscreen? Right :rolleyes:

- ''She said she noticed four children playing on one side of the road and then heard a loud bang. She noticed her windscreen was broken and assumed her former partner, who she had difficulties with in the past, had attacked her car.''

She's obviously not claiming that he attacked the car while she was driving. As far as I can decipher, she's claiming that it was only after the collision that she noticed the damage but put it down to her boyfriend having damaged the car overnight while it was parked in the driveway, but that she didn't notice it til after the collision.

Bare in mind that the windscreen was covered in ice/mist so she may have thought that the mist/ice had covered it until the windscreen had demisted but that the damage had in fact occured before she left the house.

Which to me is not entirely beyond the realm of possibilty.

I'm not sticking up for her overall. I'm merely addressing that particular part of the evidence.

Boombastic · 24-03-2013 12:22AM

kraggy wrote: »

She's obviously not claiming that he attacked the car while she was driving. As far as I can decipher, she's claiming that it was only after the collision that she noticed the damage but put it down to her boyfriend having damaged the car overnight while it was parked in the driveway, but that she didn't notice it til after the collision.

Bare in mind that the windscreen was covered in ice/mist so she may have thought that the mist/ice had covered it until the windscreen had demisted but that the damage had in fact occured before she left the house.

Which to me is not entirely beyond the realm of possibilty.

I'm not sticking up for her overall. I'm merely addressing that particular part of the evidence.

And the wing mirror flying off?

anncoates · 24-03-2013 12:24AM

Hello.

She noticed the impact.

Unless she was fucking asleep. Deeply asleep.

Boombastic · 24-03-2013 12:27AM

anncoates wrote: »

Hello.

She noticed the impact.

Unless she was fucking asleep. Deeply asleep.

Oh no she didn't! :pac:

She could have been changing the 'breathe in, breathe out' cd in the car

Icyseanfitz · 24-03-2013 12:40AM

irish judge =

fcuking idiot, and i love how having a kid at 17 has anything at all to do with anything

24-03-2013 12:48AM

I see she used the classic Chewbacca defence.

Sentences for car-related crimes are ridiculous in this country. There's a very strong "accidents happen" culture for less serious impacts which means then that serious ones are treated less seriously than they should be. Driving seems to be seen as a right rather than a privilege.
This isn't as bad as someone getting convicted of dangerous driving and killing two kids and walking out of the court the same day though.

Woman avoids jail after 'catapulting' man off bike due to poor visibility

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