Current Economic Climate/Crisis

Arpa · 21-03-2013 12:23PM #1

Can people please stop using this phrase? It's lost its original meaning and is now just a throwaway phrase which people have bastardised to mean..."We have no feckin' money now"

I hear it at least ten times a day on radio, at work, on TV, on the street. It had its place once but now has become arbitrary. Also it seems to downplay how seriously fecked we are. It has lost it's punch. We need a replacement that shows the gravitas of our situation.

everlast75 · 21-03-2013 12:28PM

Agreed - let's kick that can down the road!

smash · 21-03-2013 12:28PM

Arpa wrote: »

We need a replacement that shows the gravitas of our situation.

The Fucked Economy!

Vandekyrian · 21-03-2013 12:31PM

smash wrote: »

The Fucked Economy!

thats a good one actually.

Czarcasm · 21-03-2013 12:45PM

Arpa wrote: »

Can people please stop using this phrase?

But you just did!

It's lost its original meaning and is now just a throwaway phrase which people have bastardised to mean..."We have no feckin' money now"

Speak for yourself.

I hear it at least ten times a day on radio, at work, on TV, on the street.

I wear earphones most of the time and I rarely ever watch the news, can't even be àrsed to pick up a newspaper these days now that an examiner has been appointed to the Sunday Business Post, and I wouldn't call The Sun a newspaper, that's just for my daily titilation and the appeasement of my lowest common denominator sense of humor.

It had its place once but now has become arbitrary.

It never had it's place, and belongs in the cliche bin with other useless descriptors like "austerity measures", a euphemism for introducing new charges, which is also a euphemism for introducing new taxes.

Also it seems to downplay how seriously fecked we are. It has lost it's punch.

There's that word again. There's a difference between personal responsibility and collective responsibility.

We need a replacement that shows the gravitas of our situation.

See above.

SEPT 23 1989 · 21-03-2013 01:03PM

Economic Disaster is what i call it

Arpa · 21-03-2013 01:07PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

But you just did!

To illustrate a point. Would be pretty difficult to do so without using the phrase.

Speak for yourself

.

You're misunderstanding. I'll spell it out for you. The phrase has become an all encompassing phrase to be substituted at will for meaning, "We have no money". When I say we, I mean collectively as a country not as an individual. Why are you so nitpicky? And if you are going to try to be pedantic please make sure you understand what you read.

I wear earphones most of the time and I rarely ever watch the news, can't even be àrsed to pick up a newspaper these days now that an examiner has been appointed to the Sunday Business Post, and I wouldn't call The Sun a newspaper, that's just for my daily titilation and the appeasement of my lowest common denominator sense of humor.

This whole paragraph has done nothing but make yo look like an introverted, in denial, loner. You could use your earphones to listen to the radio perhaps?. You could read a newspaper and then use your common sense to filter what you deem to be bias.

It never had it's place, and belongs in the cliche bin with other useless descriptors like "austerity measures", a euphemism for introducing new charges, which is also a euphemism for introducing new taxes.

In order for something to become a cliché it first has to have been in popular circulation.

There's that word again. There's a difference between personal responsibility and collective responsibility.

It should be obvious that by using the term we....oh I give up. Man, just read the post and try to figure out what I means. I can't go explaining everything to you like you're a child.

Either you're just trying to be obtuse to satisfy something lacking in your life and to entertain yourself as you sit at your desk or else you're just slightly special. Put your earphones back on and the world will seem okay for you again.

Capt'n Midnight · 21-03-2013 01:08PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

I wouldn't call The Sun a newspaper, that's just for my daily titilation

fyp

Hard times but happy times :rolleyes:

Czarcasm · 21-03-2013 01:44PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

fyp

Hard times but happy times :rolleyes:

One of Charles Dickens finest books actually now you remind me of it Cap'n, which many people today could do with reading if they wanted to get some perspective on what crisis means in economic terms. It's a far cry from what people are fond of moaning about about nowadays!

Capt'n Midnight · 21-03-2013 01:55PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

One of Charles Dickens finest books actually now you remind me of it Cap'n, which many people today could do with reading if they wanted to get some perspective on what crisis means in economic terms. It's a far cry from what people are fond of moaning about about nowadays!

Dickens is sooo depressing..

But this explains the effect of all the new taxes
"Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen pounds nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery."

sfwcork · 21-03-2013 02:00PM

what about " Up sh!t creek without a paddle" economy crisis

Czarcasm · 21-03-2013 02:03PM

Arpa wrote: »

To illustrate a point. Would be pretty difficult to do so without using the phrase.

.

You're misunderstanding. I'll spell it out for you. The phrase has become an all encompassing phrase to be substituted at will for meaning, "We have no money". When I say we, I mean collectively as a country not as an individual. Why are you so nitpicky? And if you are going to try to be pedantic please make sure you understand what you read.

This whole paragraph has done nothing but make yo look like an introverted, in denial, loner. You could use your earphones to listen to the radio perhaps?. You could read a newspaper and then use your common sense to filter what you deem to be bias.

In order for something to become a cliché it first has to have been in popular circulation.

It should be obvious that by using the term we....oh I give up. Man, just read the post and try to figure out what I means. I can't go explaining everything to you like you're a child.

Either you're just trying to be obtuse to satisfy something lacking in your life and to entertain yourself as you sit at your desk or else you're just slightly special. Put your earphones back on and the world will seem okay for you again.

I get what you're saying Arpa, I'm just as tired of people perpetuating the myth as you are. I'm also a bit special, but that's neither here nor there.

It wasn't meant to come across as me being pedantic, and certainly I do see the bigger economic picture. I just happen to believe that the media have used the words "economic crisis" for the last ten years as an attention grabbing phrase.

The great depression in 1929 was an economic crisis. What the first world is experiencing now is a return to some level of normality after the illusionary highs of of the virtually wealthy.

Of course that has caused an economic recession, but we're not in a crisis. When we hit depression, then the media might have something to constantly throw in our faces, I probably won't be aware of it then either as I tuned out from listening to "poor mouths" and media scaremongering years ago.

These are now the same uninformed poor mouths and media now who during the height of the boom couldn't help but puff out their pigeon chests, boast about their share profiles, property profiles, etc, who now that they're feeling the pinch expect that we all have some collective responsibility in bailing them out of the mess they made by themselves, for themselves.

ejmaztec · 21-03-2013 02:06PM

sfwcork wrote: »

what about " Up sh!t creek without a paddle or a boat, or a lifejacket, and wearing a pair of concrete wellies" economy crisis

fyp

MadsL · 21-03-2013 02:07PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktAKHww9wPo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk42M2L-VC8

Arpa · 21-03-2013 02:13PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

I get what you're saying Arpa, I'm just as tired of people perpetuating the myth as you are. I'm also a bit special, but that's neither here nor there.

It wasn't meant to come across as me being pedantic, and certainly I do see the bigger economic picture. I just happen to believe that the media have used the words "economic crisis" for the last ten years as an attention grabbing phrase.

The great depression in 1929 was an economic crisis. What the first world is experiencing now is a return to some level of normality after the illusionary highs of of the virtually wealthy.

Of course that has caused an economic recession, but we're not in a crisis. When we hit depression, then the media might have something to constantly throw in our faces, I probably won't be aware of it then either as I tuned out from listening to "poor mouths" and media scaremongering years ago.

These are now the same uninformed poor mouths and media now who during the height of the boom couldn't help but puff out their pigeon chests, boast about their share profiles, property profiles, etc, who now that they're feeling the pinch expect that we all have some collective responsibility in bailing them out of the mess they made by themselves, for themselves.

Fair enough. Potential nonsensical diatribe has been avoided. A rarity for AH I'm sure.

Arpa · 21-03-2013 02:16PM

Still, it's just the phrase and its overuse that irritates me. Whatever your standpoint, whether you think we're not as bad as people say or you think we're in a worse off place than people say...the actual phrase current economic climate/crisis is what's irritating.

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