pub ripped me off!

wexie · 18-03-2013 07:09PM

realies wrote: »

Pardon

I think what Squirt meant is that there'd be no way of proving that OP 'didn't' get £30 cashback.

Bartender could have done the exact same transaction as 'if' OP did get £30 cashback but just pocketed the cash.

Hard to prove unless there have been more complaints and/or CCTV...

tough position to be in. Hard to prove one way or 't other.

phasers · 18-03-2013 07:09PM

I didnt even know debit card machines displayed the amount on them

I'm going back to paying for everything in cash!

sfwcork · 18-03-2013 07:10PM

realies wrote: »

I did not understand your post at all, Did you mean that the op might have got 30 euro cash back and forgot to mention it ?

I think his saying the op is thick and forgot to say he got cash back

TheBody · 18-03-2013 07:11PM

Time to go all caps lock on them op. Unleaseh the fury!!

Lapin · 18-03-2013 07:14PM

Dietsquirt wrote: »

If the drinks were 11e and you were charged 41 it's entirely plausible that you got 30 cash back and he put it as a tip accidentally on the machine. His till would still balance at the end of the night. It's your own fault really for entering your pin code when he presented the machine to you with 41e

Would ya go on out of that.

As bad as the judges are in this country for screwing things up, I don't think any of them would buy such a string of excuses.

Our friend Rosso is a cheating little git who is about to get found out and. I hope there's a full investigation and we find out how many other customers he is ripping off.

3ndahalfof6 · 18-03-2013 07:21PM

It might be possible if the OP had got 2-3 drinks and was one of the many customers that throw away their receipt, once they spot this then they could act, knowing the receipt was going to be binned,

if it was done in bad taste, it seems the tender has a lot of outs unless there are multiple complaints, a lot of people do not even check their bank statements, if the bottom line looks about right they never check it.

mikemac1 · 18-03-2013 07:22PM

A cheating Italian? :eek:

blade1 · 18-03-2013 07:25PM

Dietsquirt wrote: »

If the drinks were 11e and you were charged 41 it's entirely plausible that you got 30 cash back and he put it as a tip accidentally on the machine. His till would still balance at the end of the night. It's your own fault really for entering your pin code when he presented the machine to you with 41e

HI ROSSA!!!!

FruitLover · 18-03-2013 07:28PM

sebastianlieken wrote: »

Am I right to march in there and demand my money back? :mad:

Nah, just piss and moan on an internet forum. That'll show 'em. :rolleyes:

Christ, lads, it's a sad day indeed when someone feels the need to consult internet strangers on whether they should confront someone who appears to have stolen money from right under their nose.

Dunny · 18-03-2013 07:32PM

FruitLover wrote: »

Nah, just piss and moan on an internet forum. That'll show 'em. :rolleyes:

Christ, lads, it's a sad day indeed when someone feels the need to consult internet strangers on whether they should confront someone who appears to have stolen money from right under their nose.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrfudqa9GB1qdoqei.jpg

Basq · 18-03-2013 07:35PM

FruitLover wrote: »

Nah, just piss and moan on an internet forum. That'll show 'em. :rolleyes:

Christ, lads, it's a sad day indeed when someone feels the need to consult internet strangers on whether they should confront someone who appears to have stolen money from right under their nose.

Mmmmm.. this irony is delicious.. more please..

fasttalkerchat · 18-03-2013 07:38PM

Just get the €30 back and accept that it could have been a legitimate mistake but recommend they check all transactions for high tips.

WoollyRedHat · 18-03-2013 07:42PM

Walk back in, hold the place up with a gun, and tell him to empty the cash register until you get your 30 back and maybe some more considered the emotional distress caused by this.

If it comes to a court appearance, and it shouldn't if you do it right and have a getaway driver outside, then just show him the receipt and all will be well.

Disclaimer: This is simply the quickest way to retrieving your money, possibly not the most orthodox. Any unforseen events arising form the hold-up cannot be blamed on me.

dorkacle · 18-03-2013 07:47PM

I don't really know what the OP can do tbh.

Either way, if it was an accident or if he did get ripped off there isn't anyway to really prove if he got the money or not. Particularly because its a couple of days after the transaction.

In the case of it being an accident, in a retail setting where something like this would happen they would count the till to see if its over the debited amount, or when the till was counted at the end of the night it may have been noted it was of by €30.
But if the cashier pocketed the money its your word against theirs really.

And unless its been a regular complaint I can't see the manager handing out a refund very easily tbh. Who's to say you didn't get cash back and just dropped it or even spent it...? You'd be surprised how many people actually chance this when they have received their money!

I would definitely go in and have your complaint on record, and maybe leave your details in the hope there are more similar complaints, but I wouldn't expect a straight refund on the spot tbh.

teacherhead · 18-03-2013 07:49PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Walk back in, hold the place up with a gun, and tell him to empty the cash register until you get your 30 back and maybe some more considered the emotional distress caused by this.

If it comes to a court appearance, and it shouldn't if you do it right and have a getaway driver outside, then just show him the receipt and all will be well.

Disclaimer: This is simply the quickest way to retrieving your money, possibly not the most orthodox. Any unforseen events arising form the hold-up cannot be blamed on me.

Like tom on father Ted.

"it's my money father, I just didn't want to bother filling out the forms"

FanadMan · 18-03-2013 07:50PM

I'd say that the £30 tip was prob just a mistake. The waiter might have meant to enter £3 instead. But then again, could have been a rip-off merchant. Best of luck getting your money back OP.

WoollyRedHat · 18-03-2013 07:55PM

teacherhead wrote: »

Like tom on father Ted.

"it's my money father, I just didn't want to bother filling out the forms"

Reminds me of some thing from the Burns and Allen show, old US comedy show... main character Gracie talking about the bank

"It's dishonest. I was there yesterday to make a deposit and as fast as I put money in one window, somebody was taking it out of another."

dorkacle · 18-03-2013 07:57PM

FanadMan wrote: »

I'd say that the £30 tip was prob just a mistake. The waiter might have meant to enter £3 instead. But then again, could have been a rip-off merchant. Best of luck getting your money back OP.

€30 or €3, the waiter shouldn't be entering in his own tip at all as far as I am concerned!

noodler · 18-03-2013 07:58PM

Who the feck tips 30 euro for an 11 euro drink order?

Tipping of overe 300%?

Even if the manager won't give you the money back, you should totally bring this up.

The manager will at least then know that this Rossa person made a serious mistake or he stole from you.

mickdw · 18-03-2013 07:58PM

Most businesses that Ive seen now get the customer to sign for any cash back requested. This keeps both the staff and customer honest. Not doing this leaves room for much debate firstly on whether a costumer actually requested cash back at all and secondly whether they received it.

Mr.Fred · 18-03-2013 07:58PM

Any chance your pin begins with 30 and he had the wrong box selected?

Long shot not sure how those thing work. tbh.

I would definitely report it though. Its unlikely to be a rip off unless the instigator is an idiot. €30 tip on an €11 bill not many would miss that.

Dietsquirt · 18-03-2013 08:09PM

realies wrote: »

I did not understand your post at all, Did you mean that the op might have got 30 euro cash back and forgot to mention it ?

Precisely, the OP could have got cash back from the barman, and spent it in another bar later that night perhaps. To be fair if the OP didn't realise they were inputting their pin in to the handheld machine for 2 drinks worth 41e than i think it's safe to say they had had a fair few drinks already.

I don't think a barman would be as stupid as to add 30e tip to a laser card transaction and think he'd get away with it.

dorkacle · 18-03-2013 08:11PM

mickdw wrote: »

Most businesses that Ive seen now get the customer to sign for any cash back requested. This keeps both the staff and customer honest. Not doing this leaves room for much debate firstly on whether a costumer actually requested cash back at all and secondly whether they received it.

I agree, and have seen this practised in many places, but never a bar. I suppose at a busy bar it could be quite time consuming, as it is I find many places prefer you to have cash because of the time it takes to use debit cards/machines.

And the only thing about the 'Rossa' person is that multiple bar staff could be using the same ID for the receipt.

I've been served by 3 different staff in a local fast food place and they are all named 'Becca' according to the receipt. :pac:

Gyalist · 18-03-2013 08:12PM

Two glasses of plonk costing €11 means that the pub ripped you off twice.

Auldloon · 18-03-2013 08:15PM

Dietsquirt wrote: »

To be fair if the OP didn't realise they were inputting their pin in to the handheld machine for 2 drinks worth 41e than i think it's safe to say they had had a fair few drinks already.

To be fair I think it's safe to say you haven't read the thread.

Jimminy Mc Fukhead · 18-03-2013 08:22PM

You need verifiable evidence that a €30 tip is completely out of character and not something you would ever do.

You need to go back to every pub and coffee shop you ever to go.
Then you can produce a long line of character witnesses from the services sector who can vouch 100% for you being tight wad, pr1ck who wouldn't tip if you put a gun to his head.

Hopefully that should clear things up.

Dwork · 18-03-2013 08:29PM

Jimminy Mc Fukhead wrote: »

You need verifiable evidence that a €30 tip is completely out of character and not something you would ever do.

You need to go back to every pub and coffee shop you ever to go.
Then you can produce a long line of character witnesses from the services sector who can vouch 100% for you being tight wad, pr1ck who wouldn't tip if you put a gun to his head.

Hopefully that should clear things up.

this made me laff. And it started so nicely.:D

18-03-2013 09:05PM

The OP stated that is listed as a 30 tip on the receipt NOT 30 cashback.

I doubt an establishment would record cashback as tips on their official accounting system as they would have to pay tax on it.

I wonder how many more times in one night this would happen. 30 yoyos each time could be a nice little earner.

Andrew_Doran · 18-03-2013 09:53PM

If the bar does not refund you, you may be able to get the money back by having VISA issue a charge-back, arranged through your bank.

shopaholic01 · 18-03-2013 10:17PM

Do they not have CCTV? Easy way to clear it up if they still have the footage.

pub ripped me off!

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