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Rare tiger kills man, should we kill the tiger?

  • 14-03-2013 05:00PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭


    An endangered Sumatran tiger has killed a farmer. This is tragic news and it’s a horrible way to go and I have massive sympathy for his family at this time. The tiger might be responsible for Local farmers are now calling for the tiger’s death but the Sumatran government want to move the animal to another location to prevent more deaths.
    My opinion is that the animal is an endangered species. It is endangered because of de-forestation, loss of land and destruction by farmers (they should set up a twinning programme with Irish farmers!) and as a result only 400 tigers remain, down from a few thousand a hundred years ago. What the article doesn’t say is that farmers have been encroaching on the tiger’s territory for the last few years and as a result more and more tigers are being killed. The last few decades man has overfished, over farmed, cut down huge swathes of forest and killed every animal in their way. I don’t want to live in a world where there are just people and no other animals. Anyway article below and let me know your opinions
    A rare Sumatran tiger has mauled a farmer to death on Indonesia's Sumatra island, prompting terrified villagers to call for the animal to be killed, a park official said on Wednesday.
    The same animal is suspected in attacks on five other people.
    The official at Batang Gadis national park, Yudi Santoso, said 32-year-old Karman Lubis was killed this week while working on a rubber plantation near the park in North Sumatra province.
    His mangled body was found on Tuesday about half a mile (1km) from the plantation.
    Fearful farmers have asked authorities to shoot the tiger, even though it is protected by law. The local government plans to try to trap and relocate it.
    The same tiger is thought to be responsible for attacks on five other people as well as livestock over the past month in Jambi, another province on Sumatra island, said Nurazman Nurdin, an official with the provincial nature conservation agency.
    A farmer and four plantation workers were taken to hospital with injuries in those attacks, Nurdin said.
    Indonesia is home to about 400 Sumatran tigers, which are on the brink of extinction because of deforestation, poaching and clashes with people.
    The World Wildlife Fund says their numbers have dwindled from about 1,000 in the 1970s.
    The biggest threat to conservation is conflict with humans, according to the 2009 report by the forestry ministry. On average, five to 10 Sumatran tigers have been killed every year since 1998, the report said.
    Indonesia is home to about 400 of the animals, which are on the brink of extinction because of deforestation, poaching and clashes with people.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Only idiots would call for a revenge killing to be carried out against an animal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Stimpyone


    Tigers gotta tiger


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭MJ23


    The tiger only did what was natural to him. He saw yer man as his nosebag for that evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    They should feed more farmers to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    Any farmer wants that tiger killed oughta be prepared to do the job himself, in a ring, mano a mano.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    If people don't want to run the risk of being eaten by tigers they shouldn't encroach on their territory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    Whiskey apparently kills more people than lions and tigers put together

    I never knew lions and tigers drank whiskey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    He was just being a tiger...he most likely felt scared and threatened and was protecting himself.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    I see little to no point in killing the tiger, for being a tiger. What needs to be considered though, is the potential of risk to the rest of the population and in my opinion, that takes precedence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    The farmer was the tiger's takeaway snackbox. Would you kill someone for having a snackbox? Ok, a vegan might try, but they'd be too weak due to lack of meat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    it could have been a little child just as well as an adult that it killed. We can't blame the tiger but surely some steps will have to be taken


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    Hitchens wrote: »
    it could have been a little child just as well as an adult that it killed. We can't blame the tiger but surely some steps will have to be taken

    Yeah like maybe increasing security measures where the humans live. But other than that? They live in an area that is close to dangerous animals....it's a risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,518 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Hitchens wrote: »
    it could have been a little child just as well as an adult that it killed. We can't blame the tiger but surely some steps will have to be taken

    Steps like maybe tell the farmers to stop invading the Tigers land mayhaps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    I see little to no point in killing the tiger, for being a tiger. What needs to be considered though, is the potential of risk to the rest of the population and in my opinion, that takes precedence.

    Grand so maybe they can do the clever thing and move away from the boundaries of the protected national parks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I'm divided on this whole thing ...

    On one hand as humans we can stop species becoming extinct but then on the other hand it's mother nature for species to go extinct.

    Then on another level is how much do you value a human life? - In this case it has no value to a tiger? What if that tiger killed again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Yeah like maybe increasing security measures where the humans live. But other than that? They live in an area that is close to dangerous animals....it's a risk.
    Pretty much. Ask the Aussies what they do about Crocodiles - they stay the fnck away from them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Rare tiger kills man
    They should kill the chief for not cooking it properly.


    The Tiger clearly isn't afraid enough of humans. They could hunt it down and scare the **** out of it. Really people just shouldn't be nice to these animals. They should chase and scare them at every opportunity so they live in fear of humans and run at the slightest chance of one of us showing up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭Ilik Urgee


    The tiger has attacked 5 times and killed once.
    Yet if I leave my rubbish bin out overnight my neighbors complain of the rubbish if it's windy out.
    I'm gonna buy me a tiger costume and have a bit of fun of my own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    Here's an interesting article
    http://artofmanliness.com/2013/03/07/man-knowledge-a-history-of-man-eaters/

    A list of well-known man-eating beasts. Some of them killed an awful lot of people. Probably because they realised what easy prey a lot of humans are


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Grand so maybe they can do the clever thing and move away from the boundaries of the protected national parks?

    A bit off-topic, but your response reminded me of the late great Sam Kinison's cure for world hunger:



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Grand so maybe they can do the clever thing and move away from the boundaries of the protected national parks?

    The last part of the comment you decided to be smart against, was in the event of animals that roam...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    It doesn't matter what we think, that tigers day's are numbered. It's sad really because they'll probably kill a few more of them in their search for the rogue one.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    If only they'd had some kind of rock that keeps tigers away. I'd like to buy one of those rocks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭Liamario


    Revenge against a tiger. Not surprising really. The levels of stupidity on this planet is astounding.
    If you're going to kill that tiger, you might as well kill the rest of the species preemptively.
    Morons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Liamario wrote: »
    Revenge against a tiger. Not surprising really. The levels of stupidity on this planet is astounding.
    If you're going to kill that tiger, you might as well kill the rest of the species preemptively.
    Morons.
    The reason they kill the tiger is because that tiger now sees humans as easy food and will keep attacking. They can't convince a tiger not to attack them so they have to kill it. If this tiger was roaming around you children's playground you'd want it dead too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    ScumLord wrote: »
    The reason they kill the tiger is because that tiger now sees humans as easy food and will keep attacking. They can't convince a tiger not to attack them so they have to kill it. If this tiger was roaming around you children's playground you'd want it dead too.

    Your Wrong there
    it doesn't see humans as food as it didn't eat the man
    It mauled him to death same way tigers do with sloth bears
    They are simply eliminating the competition

    Now the lions of tsavo.
    They killed and eat the humans they attacked
    Colonel Patterson ( who was Irish ) who was there throughout the attacks and killed the lions that killed said he recorded over 135 people killed and most eaten though more people are said to have been killed
    It's said that rinderpest disease that killed off cattle and other herbivores was the cause for the prey of the lion disappearing and so the lions who were both male but had no manes were apparently sick and so took humans at leisure to fulfill their dietary needs but with humans having feck all meat they needed to kill almost every day to feed to male lions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Hitchens wrote: »
    it could have been a little child just as well as an adult that it killed. We can't blame the tiger but surely some steps will have to be taken

    Steps be taken? Maybe keeping farmers and their encroaching tendencies out of the Tiger's territory might help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭Liamario


    ScumLord wrote: »
    The reason they kill the tiger is because that tiger now sees humans as easy food and will keep attacking. They can't convince a tiger not to attack them so they have to kill it. If this tiger was roaming around you children's playground you'd want it dead too.

    No, I wouldn't. They were invading his territory, not the other way round.
    Also, you said that the tiger now has a taste for humans. That didn't stop it before and whats going to stop the rest of them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    I don't have to live (and rear a family) in an area where a large animal is preying on humans.

    Also a bit funny to see so many people giving solemn homilies on people migrating to urban or semi-urban areas and encroaching on the animal's environment when most of you probably live - or have moved to - urban areas to find work, study and whatever. with all the attendant damage to the environment and so on.

    All it takes is a few charismatic mega fauna to get the outrage rising, I guess.

    That said, I'd hate to see any animal die, especially a rare one, just for exercising its natural instincts.

    Maybe it could be moved to another area instead of being killed.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    Liamario wrote: »
    No, I wouldn't. They were invading his territory, not the other way round.
    Also, you said that the tiger now has a taste for humans. That didn't stop it before and whats going to stop the rest of them?

    Sure you would, their territory or not its our territory too and if they are a threat you have to remove the threat.

    If its possible to remove it to another location where its no longer a threat then that would be better than killing it but human lives come first.


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