Ming to tell all about avoiding justice

MMAGirl · 12-03-2013 09:56PM

tayto lover wrote: »

So he accepted the fact that his penalty points were quashed but then complained that someone was able to do that
Is he right in the head?

Hes only complaining now two years later since he was about to be exposed.

Lovely fella.
Someone helps him out. He stays quiet about it for 2 years and then, when he might have to answer questions about it, puts the blame on the people who helped him out.

That "technical group" are turning out to be the worst of the lot of them. I wonder what dirt on Shane Ross is next to come out.

stevenmu · 12-03-2013 10:05PM

realies wrote: »

On his way home he was contacted by “a senior council official” telling him that his penalty points issue had been "sorted out".

I wonder did he answer the phone while driving home?

Thargor · 12-03-2013 10:07PM

MMAGirl wrote: »

That "technical group" are turning out to be the worst of the lot of them.

So true, Flanagan and Wallace on their high horses when they're the worst examples of what has us in this mess.

HondaSami · 12-03-2013 10:09PM

stevenmu wrote: »

I wonder did he answer the phone while driving home?

''During the journey home the TD spotted his phone ringing and said he pulled in to answer it, having leared his lesson''

''He also disclosed that he had been given four penalty points on appeal in Roscommon Courthouse some years ago before he was a TD''.

He did not want to accept these penalty points either.

wyndhurst · 12-03-2013 10:20PM

Plain and simple - What a fcuking CLOWN.

Thargor · 12-03-2013 10:21PM

Jesus just saw the clip on the news there, what a spineless little rat bastard.

sfwcork · 12-03-2013 10:23PM

He prob was off his cheann so cant remember half of it

Paddy Cow · 12-03-2013 10:25PM

realies wrote: »

Mr Flanagan said he had planned to name this Garda Sergeant in the Dáil but was told that he would be stopped.

What a dirty rat. Trying to get out of trouble by getting someone else into trouble :mad:

C.K Dexter Haven · 12-03-2013 10:26PM

Ming, the pointless.!

claptrap · 13-03-2013 01:44PM

No doubt Ming has made a very stupid mistake and has badly damaged whatever credibility he had. However it's clear that a lot of people have been waiting for him to slip up and have actively being digging for any dirt they could find on him. He made a lot of enemies in the Dail and the Gardai through being outspoken. He has made a lot of people nervous because he was speaking out against corruption which anyone with a bit of sense will tell you is rampant in Irish politics and the police force. Yes these new revelations and his admissions have exposed hypocrisy, however his crimes are extremely minor compared to those of others, many of which are never exposed. Yes his crimes as minor and they ruin his credibility as a politician but if we were to take this stance with everyone (maybe we should) then there would be no one left in the Dail. You dig for long enough and you will find dirt on everyone. Ming is new to the fat cat game of Irish politics and his naive nature has probably cost him his job. He messed with some seasoned pro's with connections who have been waiting to destroy him and he gave them a great chance to do it through his own stupidity and weak mindedness. All this aside I find it sick that people will get up in arms about this until he resigns and yet the likes of O' Reilly and Noonan are spared. Ask yourself, who damages our nation more? Naive Ming or the pro's who have all the tricks for avoiding getting caught, avoiding delivering on promises, avoiding answering questions and generally avoiding standing up for Irish citizens. Bertie et al. get a pension for ruining our country while Ming (who forfeits half his salary to charity) will be ruined by this because he didn't know how to play the game (keep his mouth shut) Of course all the prude anti weed folks are going to jump on this as they always do ( I don't smoke but I have tried it unlike those that dismiss it and I realise its harmless. I lived in Holland for a number of years and I have seen first hand how it is harmless. Never got attacked by a stoner but have been set upon randomly by a number of drunks in the past in Ireland) Any way my point is yes he's made a very stupid mistake but his intentions were honourable which is far more than can be said for the rest of the crooks in the Dail.

r3nu4l · 13-03-2013 01:49PM

claptrap wrote: »

No doubt Ming has made a very stupid mistake and has badly damaged whatever credibility he had. However it's clear that a lot of people have been waiting for him to slip up and have actively being digging for any dirt they could find on him. He made a lot of enemies in the Dail and the Gardai through being outspoken. He has made a lot of people nervous because he was speaking out against corruption which anyone with a bit of sense will tell you is rampant in Irish politics and the police force. Yes these new revelations and his admissions have exposed hypocrisy, however his crimes are extremely minor compared to those of others, many of which are never exposed. Yes his crimes as minor and they ruin his credibility as a politician but if we were to take this stance with everyone (maybe we should) then there would be no one left in the Dail. You dig for long enough and you will find dirt on everyone. Ming is new to the fat cat game of Irish politics and his naive nature has probably cost him his job. He messed with some seasoned pro's with connections who have been waiting to destroy him and he gave them a great chance to do it through his own stupidity and weak mindedness. All this aside I find it sick that people will get up in arms about this until he resigns and yet the likes of O' Reilly and Noonan are spared. Ask yourself, who damages our nation more? Naive Ming or the pro's who have all the tricks for avoiding getting caught, avoiding delivering on promises, avoiding answering questions and generally avoiding standing up for Irish citizens. Bertie et al. get a pension for ruining our country while Ming (who forfeits half his salary to charity) will be ruined by this because he didn't know how to play the game (keep his mouth shut) Of course all the prude anti weed folks are going to jump on this as they always do ( I don't smoke but I have tried it unlike those that dismiss it and I realise its harmless. I lived in Holland for a number of years and I have seen first hand how it is harmless. Never got attacked by a stoner but have been set upon randomly by a number of drunks in the past in Ireland) Any way my point is yes he's made a very stupid mistake but his intentions were honourable which is far more than can be said for the rest of the crooks in the Dail.

Heh, your username accurately reflects my thoughts on your post

Dempsey · 13-03-2013 01:55PM

r3nu4l wrote: »

Heh, your username accurately reflects my thoughts on your post

You think Ming was the 1st or last to get points quashed? :rolleyes:

Death and Taxes · 13-03-2013 01:58PM

claptrap wrote: »

No doubt Ming has made a very stupid mistake and has badly damaged whatever credibility he had. However it's clear that a lot of people have been waiting for him to slip up and have actively being digging for any dirt they could find on him. He made a lot of enemies in the Dail and the Gardai through being outspoken. He has made a lot of people nervous because he was speaking out against corruption which anyone with a bit of sense will tell you is rampant in Irish politics and the police force. Yes these new revelations and his admissions have exposed hypocrisy, however his crimes are extremely minor compared to those of others, many of which are never exposed. Yes his crimes as minor and they ruin his credibility as a politician but if we were to take this stance with everyone (maybe we should) then there would be no one left in the Dail. You dig for long enough and you will find dirt on everyone. Ming is new to the fat cat game of Irish politics and his naive nature has probably cost him his job. He messed with some seasoned pro's with connections who have been waiting to destroy him and he gave them a great chance to do it through his own stupidity and weak mindedness. All this aside I find it sick that people will get up in arms about this until he resigns and yet the likes of O' Reilly and Noonan are spared. Ask yourself, who damages our nation more? Naive Ming or the pro's who have all the tricks for avoiding getting caught, avoiding delivering on promises, avoiding answering questions and generally avoiding standing up for Irish citizens. Bertie et al. get a pension for ruining our country while Ming (who forfeits half his salary to charity) will be ruined by this because he didn't know how to play the game (keep his mouth shut) Of course all the prude anti weed folks are going to jump on this as they always do ( I don't smoke but I have tried it unlike those that dismiss it and I realise its harmless. I lived in Holland for a number of years and I have seen first hand how it is harmless. Never got attacked by a stoner but have been set upon randomly by a number of drunks in the past in Ireland) Any way my point is yes he's made a very stupid mistake but his intentions were honourable which is far more than can be said for the rest of the crooks in the Dail.

Utter claptrap.
He is another crooked and corrupt (his word) politican who should be turfed back out of the Dail.

r3nu4l · 13-03-2013 01:59PM

Dempsey wrote: »

You think Ming was the 1st or last to get points quashed? :rolleyes:

you putting words in my mouth now? :rolleyes:

Ming himself said today on radio in Shannon that the act was corrupt. To my mind he's as much of a disgrace as any other politician who did the same. He's a self-serving disgace and no different to any of the other 'cute hoors' we've had elected in the past.

claptrap · 13-03-2013 02:01PM

r3nu4l (admin???) Not sure what difference my username makes. What are your views on my post?

Dempsey · 13-03-2013 02:09PM

r3nu4l wrote: »

you putting words in my mouth now? :rolleyes:

Ming himself said today on radio in Shannon that the act was corrupt. To my mind he's as much of a disgrace as any other politician who did the same. He's a self-serving disgace and no different to any of the other 'cute hoors' we've had elected in the past.

There be plenty of them that havent been exposed because they play the game better. The system does need changing or expect more wrecked careers when people in public office criticise the lifestyle of a politican or do anything to change the current political system. The cute hoors sit in the back bench muck raking for the rainy day like when some independants try to make getting points quashed difficult/a thing of the past.

r3nu4l · 13-03-2013 02:11PM

claptrap wrote: »

r3nu4l (admin???) Not sure what difference my username makes. What are your views on my post?

I thought it was obvious. I think it's claptrap.

Just a few examples of the claptrap:
Smoking weed is harmless
Ever heard of cancer? I've tried weed myself, more than once but then I realised what a loser's game it was and stopped

He made a lot of people nervous speaking about corruption
Should have kept his own house in order so, glass houses, stone throwing and all that.

however his crimes are extremely minor compared to those of others
Ah, I see, so some crimes are okay then so long as someone else is doing something worse? Very Orwellian and animal farm! Oookaaay!

Ming is new to the fat cat game of Irish politics
Well he certainly slotted into it all comfortably enough by engaging in corruption. Sure, he's practically one of the lads now
I could go on but I think that says enough of what I think of the post. I'm entitled to disagree and have done so.

Again, hes shown himself to fit in quite well. Another politician, elected on a ticket (free the weed man) who turns out to be more or less the same as the rest of them.

Jester252 · 13-03-2013 02:13PM

Lets not forget that he is also a bully

Thargor · 13-03-2013 02:14PM

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claptrap · 13-03-2013 02:19PM

r3nu4l wrote: »

I thought it was obvious. I think it's claptrap.

Just a few examples of the claptrap:
Smoking weed is harmless
Ever heard of cancer? I've tried weed myself, more than once but then I realised what a loser's game it was and stopped

He made a lot of people nervous speaking about corruption
Should have kept his own house in order so, glass houses, stone throwing and all that.

however his crimes are extremely minor compared to those of others
Ah, I see, so some crimes are okay then so long as someone else is doing something worse? Very Orwellian and animal farm! Oookaaay!

Ming is new to the fat cat game of Irish politics
Well he certainly slotted into it all comfortably enough by engaging in corruption. Sure, he's practically one of the lads now
I could go on but I think that says enough of what I think of the post. I'm entitled to disagree and have done so.

Again, hes shown himself to fit in quite well. Another politician, elected on a ticket (free the weed man) who turns out to be more or less the same as the rest of them.

What doesn't cause cancer these days???

Never said his crimes were okay. Just that they are minor compared to others

r3nu4l · 13-03-2013 02:21PM

claptrap wrote: »

What doesn't cause cancer these days???

Not much admittedly, I'll grant you that

Uriel. · 13-03-2013 02:24PM

claptrap wrote: »

What doesn't cause cancer these days???

So if everything or most things cause cancer, then it equals that all of these things are harmless??? wtf kind of reasoning is that?

Never said his crimes were okay. Just that they are minor compared to others

so what's your point. We should all just forget about the hypocritical corruption he has portrayed because somebody in another place on the island murdered someone?

VEN · 13-03-2013 02:26PM

Thargor wrote: »

you're clearly a plant with some connection to his organisation on some pathethic attempt at damage control with that postcount and join date...

:pac: the post count and join date, always a clear sign. paranoid perhaps?

rubadub · 13-03-2013 02:33PM

r3nu4l wrote: »

Just a few examples of the claptrap:
Smoking weed is harmless
Ever heard of cancer? I've tried weed myself, more than once but then I realised what a loser's game it was and stopped

Yes, it is weird to just call it harmless and not mention the positive effects. Like cancer as you say, studies show it can slow the spread of breast cancer. It also kills off brain cancer cells. And it helps with nausea & appetite in many cancer patients undergoing various treatments.

Some were concerned about lung cancer, a study showed on its own this is not an issue. But if you mix it with the most addictive substance known to science, tobacco/nicotine of course there is a strong risk.

Vizzy · 13-03-2013 02:43PM

claptrap wrote: »

What doesn't cause cancer these days???

Never said his crimes were okay. Just that they are minor compared to others

Come in Ming,your dinner is poured out !

HondaSami · 13-03-2013 02:47PM

claptrap wrote: »

Never said his crimes were okay. Just that they are minor compared to others

A crime is a crime, when you take the moral high ground like Ming did then everything is a crime, hypocrisy is the biggest crime.

r3nu4l · 13-03-2013 02:49PM

rubadub wrote: »

Yes, it is weird to just call it harmless and not mention the positive effects. Like cancer as you say, studies show it can slow the spread of breast cancer. It also kills off brain cancer cells. And it helps with nausea & appetite in many cancer patients undergoing various treatments.

Ah, science. Well as you know, it's all about the active ingredients. The anti-cancer effects are as a result of active ingredients. Potentially the safest and most potent way to make use of those actives is to purify them, thus removing the other unnecessary components of weed. I've no problem with medical uses of cannabinoids at all and in fact they have been shown to be effective in pain too.

As for 'if you mix it with the most addictive substance known to science', well that's precisely what the majority of cannabis users do and as such the cancer risk is high.

claptrap · 13-03-2013 04:42PM

HondaSami wrote: »

A crime is a crime, when you take the moral high ground like Ming did then everything is a crime, hypocrisy is the biggest crime.

Once again. Never said his crimes were okay. Just that they are minor compared to others
Personally I don't think hypocrisy is the biggest crime but that's just me. To clarify. i think its bad, very bad! Just not the worst.

Boombastic · 13-03-2013 05:00PM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

What a dirty rat. Trying to get out of trouble by getting someone else into trouble :mad:

claptrap wrote: »

Once again. Never said his crimes were okay. Just that they are minor compared to others
Personally I don't think hypocrisy is the biggest crime but that's just me. To clarify. i think its bad, very bad! Just not the worst.

If he does have to resign over this, he should bring everyone involved with him

There were no calls for the resignation of the Judges and others in high positions who also got penalty points quashed, why not??

There needs to be a round of naming and shaming. This corruption is ingrained at all levels.

G Power · 13-03-2013 05:07PM

Boombastic wrote: »

If he does have to resign over this, he should bring everyone involved with him

There were no calls for the resignation of the Judges and others in high positions who also got penalty points quashed, why not??

There needs to be a round of naming and shaming. This corruption is ingrained at all levels.

he hasn't a notion of resigning over this!! anyone would think he was dealing with known illegal promissory notes and changing them into more "legal" bonds and ruining the country or something

Ming to tell all about avoiding justice

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