Garda convicted of assaulting prisoner - 4 other Garda in same room "saw nothing"

cursai · 12-03-2013 07:12PM

What assault. A bang off a radiator! He probably just brushed off it. No one knows the whole story or how credible the witness is. I bet he didn't get a day for his first six assaults.
He was a scumbag driving a car AT SPEED WHILST DRUNK. Yet he is the victim. $$$ him.

Boombastic · 12-03-2013 07:13PM

cursai wrote: »

What assault. A bang off a radiator! He probably just brushed off it. No one knows the whole story or how credible the witness is. I bet he didn't get a day for his first six assaults.
He was a scumbag driving a car AT SPEED WHILST DRUNK. Yet he is the victim. $$$ him.

If only there were 4 other witness to the assault/or not, pity they were all momentarily looking away

RustyNut · 12-03-2013 07:15PM

cursai wrote: »

What assault. A bang off a radiator! He probably just brushed off it. No one knows the whole story or how credible the witness is.

The judge probably has a reasonable idea, better than most posters in AH to be fair.

Sunnyisland · 12-03-2013 07:15PM

Terrontress wrote: »

Surely if you could assault at leisure, you'd choose something more vexing than this. None of what this guy would even mildly irritate. If you regularly assaulted on such grounds, work would be a terrible chore, having to punch, throw and rip all around you.

Maybe the Guard in question does more vexing than this and assault at leisure,he wouldn't be the first. But its this one where he was caught and found guity.

cursai · 12-03-2013 07:16PM

Boombastic wrote: »

If only there were 4 other witness to the assault/or not, pity they were all momentarily looking away

Whys that a pity? Fair play to them. I'd love to know how he was convicted in court with very little or no evidence except the word of a gouger.

RustyNut · 12-03-2013 07:19PM

cursai wrote: »

Whys that a pity? Fair play to them.

For What exactly ?

Royal Legend · 12-03-2013 07:20PM

Was he assaulted (allegedley) on overtime or during normal working hours?

And will Garda assaulting people who probably deserve it reduce in numbers with the work to rule?

kupus · 12-03-2013 07:22PM

Guy acts like a prick and gets treated like a prick, whats there to see here. I pity the guard losing his job, while a sitting judge with no connection to the real world outside his cocoon continues to pass out stupid sentences.

Boombastic · 12-03-2013 07:28PM

cursai wrote: »

Whys that a pity? Fair play to them. I'd love to know how he was convicted in court with very little or no evidence except the word of a gouger.

Because if they had to have seen what happened they would be able to back up his account of the happenings

I blame Alan Shatter and the cuts:(

JustRoss23 · 12-03-2013 07:29PM

why the guard assaulted someone with a cheap shot when the defendant could not defend himself sack the guard:D he wont be the big lad in jail then;)

RustyNut · 12-03-2013 07:29PM

kupus wrote: »

Guy acts like a prick and gets treated like a prick, by another prick who gets 4 more pricks to lie about it.

FYP

Johnny Utah · 12-03-2013 07:36PM

cursai wrote: »

Whys that a pity? Fair play to them. I'd love to know how he was convicted in court with very little or no evidence except the word of a gouger.

Even a "gouger" doesn't deserve to be assaulted for no legitimate reason. And what makes him a "gouger" btw?

Oranage2 · 12-03-2013 07:46PM

The gardai siochana are beyond a joke at this stage. corruption is rift through out the force and they're a law upon themselves or a private security for international companies paid for by john Q taxpayer.

Courts are full of this Classic case of gards show up use pepper spray and batons then arrest the person and make something up in court backed by his/her buddies.

Its really no wonder people think gardai are scum.

Ruudi_Mentari · 12-03-2013 07:48PM

what this guard did was the equivelent of what I'd like to do, only in pulling him from his perceived safety zone they didn't absolutely pulverize him so what's the issue?!

I think these people need to learn a hard lesson before somebody else does, at the duress of their grille. People fear the book less and less, it seems so why not physically throw it at them

heartrending to hear he took it upon himself, some guards really do care.

UDP · 12-03-2013 07:49PM

How was the garda convicted?
From what I can see in the article there was no evidence or witnesses other than a torn shirt and what the guy who was caught drink driving said.

squod · 12-03-2013 07:51PM

UDP wrote: »

How was the garda convicted?
From what I can see in the article there was no evidence or witnesses other than a torn shirt and what the guy who was caught drink driving said.

The judge threw the gard against a radiator, saying ''confess now will ye.''

Ruudi_Mentari · 12-03-2013 07:54PM

Tough love happens, kids. Not everything can be put down to say, mental issues nor be dealt with via beaureacracy

suicide_circus · 12-03-2013 07:56PM

scumbag probably deserved a beating.

that said, gardai cant cry about it if they get caught. says a lot that the judge believed this guy over 5 police, they must have been totally devoid of credibility when cross examined in court

Steve O · 12-03-2013 07:56PM

Amazing. A few lads in here beat the drum about IRA punishment beatings, when a Guard does it, it's "meh".

The scumbag should recieve a hefty sentence.

JustRoss23 · 12-03-2013 07:56PM

Well hopefully tough love will cost this dirty cop his job and 3 months of his life in jail:D

Ruudi_Mentari · 12-03-2013 07:57PM

The slyest dig would have bn somebody lifted off their feet, by an irresponsible drunk driver in his own little bubble.

Tar.Aldarion · 12-03-2013 07:59PM

Gets brought in to officer "Payne", not gonna have a good time.

tayto lover · 12-03-2013 07:59PM

I have great respect for the Garda in general but anyone who breaks the law should be dealt with. No need for the Garda's actions in that case from what i've read.

However what angers me is the Garda Ombudsman Commission becoming involved in the case so quickly.
Where were they in the Penalty Points being quashed case?
Were they afraid to take on the higher ranking Gardai, the judges and the politicians who were involved in this scandal?
They have no credibility after that. They always seem to target the lower ranking individuals but hear no evil, speak no evil or see no evil with the big boys.

suicide_circus · 12-03-2013 07:59PM

Steve O wrote: »

Amazing. A few lads in here beat the drum about IRA punishment beatings, when a Guard does it, it's "meh".

The scumbag should recieve a hefty sentence.

hardly a punishment beating :rolleyes:

cursai · 12-03-2013 08:02PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

The gardai siochana are beyond a joke at this stage. corruption is rift through out the force and they're a law upon themselves or a private security for international companies paid for by john Q taxpayer.

Courts are full of this Classic case of gards show up use pepper spray and batons then arrest the person and make something up in court backed by his/her buddies.

Its really no wonder people think gardai are scum.

Only a certain brand of idiot thinks that.

Ruudi_Mentari · 12-03-2013 08:09PM

Some poeple really are so "low" profile that the garda should be able to get away with it, tbh.

Wonder if the guy had the nerve to be lippy too, fcuking lubed drivers.. sure he was only cruising for a bruising.

My name is URL · 12-03-2013 08:12PM

cursai wrote: »

Only a certain brand of idiot thinks that.

Only a certain brand of idiot would jump to the defense of Gardai who have shown themselves to be scumbags. It happens every time a story similar to this one pops up.

I don't get why people have such a deference to authority in this country, regardless of how inept or thuggish the individuals are.

I've nothing against AGS but why defend the type of guy that drags their collective reputation through the mud? Boggles the mind tbh.

Pappa Charlie · 12-03-2013 08:16PM

Can't see how the Garda can get a fair trial at his appeal! But it seems Gardai are not afforded the same rights as scumbags by judges, the ombudsman rush in again when they think they have a juicy case, if there was so much corruption why so few convictions? Why don't they prosecute people who make vexatious complaints, they are supposed to but ignore that part of their job as usual!

cursai · 12-03-2013 08:16PM

The whole thing will be thrown out on appeal anyway. There's nothing to back this up. I don't condone unnecessary force but this is going to have the Gardai more reluctant to use any force. Especially with the cut backs they're facing the whole time.

fasttalkerchat · 12-03-2013 08:21PM

He deserved a kicking but the gards can't be at that if they want to expect respect later.

Garda convicted of assaulting prisoner - 4 other Garda in same room "saw nothing"

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