Wheelchair user refused entry to Dublin Nightclub.

kidneyfan wrote: »

I am no more on the wind up than anyone else and don't know the young wheelchair bound man who wanted to enjoy an evening out with friends. Friends who were mocked by a physically fit able legged bouncer.

The bouncers should have carried this young man down the stairs and should have known how to do that.

The chap that lost his job is from the bad old days of bouncers and not the new style professional security association vetted professionals.

There has been a marked improvement in door standards over the past three years which makes this instance of rudeness so disappointing.

I don't believe you. You've repeatedly mentioned his attractive young friends, made reference to their legs and behinds, and even said he might have been crying.

Come off it mate, you're either a WUM or one of those girls.

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

A guy posted on Bolgers FB page and said he was there when it happened and the bouncers said he wouldn't be insured and that is the reason he was refused.
Bolgers friends then started screaming at the doormen and this resulted in the entire group being refused according to this guy.

Oops

Madam_X wrote: »

An apology isn't necessarily an admission of anything.

It could be taken as such. They shouldn't have said anything until they fully investigated the incident. I think now they will have discrimination and an unfair dismissal to deal with. I wouldn't like to be one of their employees if the company is prone to kneejerk reactions like that. Unless there is video of the incident that we haven't seen I don't know how they could be so sure so quickly.

Mr Whirly wrote: »

I'm only speculating but I find it hard to believe that the management did not know what was going on outside. This is supposed to have happened at 11.30, the place only opens at 11, so it couldn't have been too busy. The manager must have made a decision on this and after the backlash they have blamed a bouncer.

At the end of the day the club, bouncer or the young lad could be to blame. In my opinion it doesn't look great for the club. They should have dealt with it on the night.

I had a read of the report in the Daily Mail covering this incident. According to it, a female manager went out to Graham at the club and apologized to him, offered to have him brought in and he refused the offer. The report also said Graham was considering seeing his solicitor about the incident.

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

He was immediately given an apology and the bouncer was let go, why hasn't he accepted the apology and tried to calm down the hate campaign? Why hasn't he given any details about what happened?

So far the only accounts are that he was refused entry, that he was drunk and abusive, and that the club's liability insurance didn't cover the bouncers carrying him down.

Those are the only accounts I've read so far, the first from the OP, the second purportedly from the second bouncer and the third from a supposed witness.

I guarantee that he or one of his mates will be on the Adrian Kennedy Phone Show tonight.

Grayson wrote: »

Do you have a link?

No, sorry. I read the report in the paper at a local cafe and googled for the daily mail online. The online mail does not have the story as related in the printed-version, just most of the facebook story, which doesn't mention the female manager and her reported actions.

kidneyfan wrote: »

I am no more on the wind up than anyone else and don't know the young wheelchair bound man who wanted to enjoy an evening out with friends. Friends who were mocked by a physically fit able legged bouncer.

The bouncers should have carried this young man down the stairs and should have known how to do that.

The chap that lost his job is from the bad old days of bouncers and not the new style professional security association vetted professionals.

There has been a marked improvement in door standards over the past three years which makes this instance of rudeness so disappointing.

Have you read this thread at all? The club was not insured to have their bouncers carry someone down the stairs. I completely believe this is true because the club I work in has the same policy and requires the customer to sign a release form to allow the security team to carry
them up the stairs. This form waivers any responsibility from the club if the customer gets injured.

What if one of the bouncers got injured? Or his friends, who were offered the chance to carry him? Who would be responsible then?

Depending on the weight of Mr Bolger it could take anything from 3-4 bouncers to carry him, and anything from an extra 5-6 bouncers to do crowd control to ensure the stairs was cleared of regular customers so they didn't get in the way. How many clubs have a spare 10 bouncers to do this?

Also, did you know that legally there has to be a certain amount of bouncers spaced out on a premises based on the capacity?
And that if a bouncer leaves his stationed position for any reason (say, I don't know, to carry a moaning man in a wheelchair down the stairs cause he's kicking up a fuss) and an incident occurs, that bouncer is liable to not only lose his job, but also his license, because he left his position and wasn't there to stop a fight or whatever?

I know I've already said it and I know some bouncers are asshóles, I'd have been the first to say it before working in a club but they're under waaaay more pressure than you'd think.

They have to answer for every little incident, every slip, fall, fight, broken glass or prohibited item can cost them their job if they don't respond quick enough or in the right manner. Everyone is capable of panicking and making a rash decision.

I think Bolger is lying, I think he's kicking up a fuss for no reason and I think he's a nasty person for costing that bouncer his job, not to mention the countless bar staff who will be let go in the coming weeks due to the amount of people who say they'll never go near the club again.

kidneyfan wrote: »

I read the whole thread and apart from one reposted page from facebook in which another bouncer alleges that the young wheelchair bound man and his attractive friends are liars there is no evidence to go against Mr Bolger. Bouncers because of the sort of job it is tend to stick together. If someone might stick a knife in your back you like to know that someone else is watching it!

What I do see here is the sort of vile bullying that welcomes the opportunity to attack someone for being in a wheelchair.

The weak, the lazy and those who cannot make a go of their own lives love to attack the marginalised. That's what is driving the attacks on Mr Bolger.

I have no connection to the young man in a wheelchair at all and rarely go out to nightclubs but I feel that they should have the same rights as everyone else.

By the way the offer to allow Mr Bolger's two female high heel wearing friends is insulting and dismissive of his right to enter the night club.

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