Wheelchair user refused entry to Dublin Nightclub.

kidneyfan · 11-03-2013 05:25PM

Very bad form by the nightclub. Should have facilities for disabled people it is the twenty first century.
Really shocking behaviour by that bouncer.

Disgusting carry on by some of the boards heads to call a young fella in a wheelchair a liar.

frank reynolds · 11-03-2013 05:25PM

hope the bouncer gets employed somewhere else (or re-employed)
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did Graham bolger stop to think that he could be financially ruining a whole family (the bouncer could be the only working person) before he waged this campaign?

im definitely on the side of the nightclub,.

veep · 11-03-2013 05:26PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

A man has unjustly lost his job and been sacrificed by his employer

or

Another man has been discriminated against for his disability

In fairness, it look to me like both are true.

Caliden · 11-03-2013 05:26PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

Very bad form by the nightclub. Should have facilities for disabled people it is the twenty first century.
Really shocking behaviour by that bouncer.

Disgusting carry on by some of the boards heads to call a young fella in a wheelchair a liar.

So you know both sides of the story then?
Guilty until proven innocent? jog on will you...

frank reynolds · 11-03-2013 05:27PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

Very bad form by the nightclub. Should have facilities for disabled people it is the twenty first century.
Really shocking behaviour by that bouncer.

Disgusting carry on by some of the boards heads to call a young fella in a wheelchair a liar.

disgusting that you are using his wheelchair to try and incite sympathy for a liar.

there's no way a bouncer would say that to anyone.

you dont see black people who are refused for carrying a beer (which is in his hand in the photos btw) or being drunk turning around and waging vicious campaigns of discrimination.

its not the done thing.

he's definitely lying.

ScumLord · 11-03-2013 05:28PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

On what grounds? Search for Madison Nightclub on Twitter, take a look at their Facebook. Fair amount of people on both sides but I'd say he definitely has more supporters.

Damned Facebook. Making After Hours look like a pit of sensibility and reason.

Me_Grapes · 11-03-2013 05:29PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

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Disgusting carry on by some of the boards heads to call a young fella in a wheelchair a liar.

I don't think anyone is calling him a liar, just people asking for a clarification of the facts, which have not been forthcoming.

DeanAustin · 11-03-2013 05:33PM

veep wrote: »

In fairness, it look to me like both are true.

Possibly but the facts will only be able to prove one of them to be true IMO.

orestes · 11-03-2013 05:36PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

Disgusting carry on by some of the boards heads to call a young fella in a wheelchair a liar.

People in wheelchairs can't tell lies? They must have upgraded those things since I was in one.

dddmac · 11-03-2013 05:37PM

Regulations that came into force after 2010 regarding disability access:
Disability Access Certificate: an Overview

*Any building work that requires Planning Permission and a Fire Cert will now also require an Access Cert.
*All non-domestic building work that starts on site after 1st Jan 2010 will need a certificate before works begin.
*Non-domestic building work includes new hotels, apartment blocks, shops, churches, offices, etc. In fact, everything except private houses. It also includes any changes to these types of buildings that will affect their layout or facilities, e.g. extensions, ramps or toilets.
*An Access Cert will normally be applied for at the same time as a Fire Cert.
*Work cannot start on site without an Access Cert. However, as there is no official time period (unlike a Fire Cert) in which the Building Control Authority are required to issue the cert, this may potentially lead to delays for applicants.

Link to building control act 2007

Dublin City Disability access cert requirements

kidneyfan · 11-03-2013 05:38PM

Pretty shocking to call a disabled man a liar.
The disabled man has not waged a vicious campaign of discrimination. I don't really know what you mean.

In my experience bouncers stick up for each other so the fact that the bouncer got the sack shows that he must have been really out of order.

I sincerely hope that an innocent man didn't get the sack but what would the disabled man in a wheelchair have to gain from getting the bouncer sacked?

frank reynolds wrote: »

disgusting that you are using his wheelchair to try and incite sympathy for a liar.

there's no way a bouncer would say that to anyone.

you dont see black people who are refused for carrying a beer (which is in his hand in the photos btw) or being drunk turning around and waging vicious campaigns of discrimination.

its not the done thing.

he's definitely lying.

kidneyfan · 11-03-2013 05:39PM

orestes wrote: »

People in wheelchairs can't tell lies? They must have upgraded those things since I was in one.

They rarely do tell lies though and this young man in a wheelchair has no motivation for lying about the bouncer.

orestes · 11-03-2013 05:40PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

Pretty shocking to call a disabled man a liar.
The disabled man has not waged a vicious campaign of discrimination. I don't really know what you mean.

In my experience bouncers stick up for each other so the fact that the bouncer got the sack shows that he must have been really out of order.

I sincerely hope that an innocent man didn't get the sack but what would the disabled man in a wheelchair have to gain from getting the bouncer sacked?

Have you read any of this thread? Or are you just jumping on the bandwagon like everyone on facebook?

Kenny Logins · 11-03-2013 05:41PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

Pretty shocking to call a disabled man a liar.
The disabled man has not waged a vicious campaign of discrimination. I don't really know what you mean.

In my experience bouncers stick up for each other so the fact that the bouncer got the sack shows that he must have been really out of order.

I sincerely hope that an innocent man didn't get the sack but what would the disabled man in a wheelchair have to gain from getting the bouncer sacked?

Facebook (for the hard of thinking) is that way >>

DeanAustin · 11-03-2013 05:41PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

They rarely do tell lies though and this young man in a wheelchair has no motivation for lying about the bouncer.

Not being funny because you've raised some good points but what makes you think that people in wheelchairs tell less lies than anyone else?

The Road Runner · 11-03-2013 05:42PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

Pretty shocking to call a disabled man a liar.

Saints the lot of them.

kidneyfan wrote: »

The disabled man has not waged a vicious campaign of discrimination.

He was given an apology yesterday. Why wake up this morning and start all over again?

Kenny Logins · 11-03-2013 05:42PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

They rarely do tell lies though and this young man in a wheelchair has no motivation for lying about the bouncer.

Are you seriously saying that people in wheelchairs rarely tell lies? :pac:

tvnutz · 11-03-2013 05:44PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

They rarely do tell lies though and this young man in a wheelchair has no motivation for lying about the bouncer.

Bahahahahahahaaha! are you joking? Please tell me you are joking. Because he is in a wheelchair he is infallible? I don't know exactly what happened with this case and neither do the 99% of people on here or on facebook but your arguement that because someone is disabled means they are some sort of perfect human being is laughable.

New user, you are obviously a mate of his and doing him no favours with your ridiculous posts.

tipptopper · 11-03-2013 05:44PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

They rarely do tell lies though and this young man in a wheelchair has no motivation for lying about the bouncer.

You are obviously connected in some way to the man in the wheelchair, why don’t you stop trolling and spouting bull and wait till the facts are forthcoming.

kidneyfan · 11-03-2013 05:44PM

I read the whole thread and apart from one reposted page from facebook in which another bouncer alleges that the young wheelchair bound man and his attractive friends are liars there is no evidence to go against Mr Bolger. Bouncers because of the sort of job it is tend to stick together. If someone might stick a knife in your back you like to know that someone else is watching it!

What I do see here is the sort of vile bullying that welcomes the opportunity to attack someone for being in a wheelchair.

The weak, the lazy and those who cannot make a go of their own lives love to attack the marginalised. That's what is driving the attacks on Mr Bolger.

I have no connection to the young man in a wheelchair at all and rarely go out to nightclubs but I feel that they should have the same rights as everyone else.

By the way the offer to allow Mr Bolger's two female high heel wearing friends is insulting and dismissive of his right to enter the night club.

kylith · 11-03-2013 05:45PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

Pretty shocking to call a disabled man a liar.
The disabled man has not waged a vicious campaign of discrimination. I don't really know what you mean.

Well, other than taking to social media with just his side of the story and getting a man fired because of, what appears to be now, nothing more than malice I suppose he hasn't done anything wrong.

kidneyfan wrote: »

In my experience bouncers stick up for each other so the fact that the bouncer got the sack shows that he must have been really out of order.

Or that the company reacted in a knee-jerk fashion fearing a backlash from the public if they weren't seen to act on this perceived discrimination.

kidneyfan wrote: »

I sincerely hope that an innocent man didn't get the sack but what would the disabled man in a wheelchair have to gain from getting the bouncer sacked?

Other than a big pile of money from a discrimination case, you mean?

Remember; just because someone is a member of a minority it doesn't mean that they're not a nasty little toe-rag.

LizT · 11-03-2013 05:46PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

They rarely do tell lies though and this young man in a wheelchair has no motivation for lying about the bouncer.

Why are people in wheelchairs any different from the rest of us? As Dr. House says, everybody lies. Talking about people in wheelchairs as if they're some sort of modern day saints is patronizing.

DeltaWhite · 11-03-2013 05:46PM

Kidneyfan

Maybe you should read the WHOLE thread and not just one or 2 posts you didn't like...

kidneyfan · 11-03-2013 05:47PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

Not being funny because you've raised some good points but what makes you think that people in wheelchairs tell less lies than anyone else?

Because I would hope that the bad experience of being in a wheelchair helps them to become better people.

frank reynolds · 11-03-2013 05:48PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

They rarely do tell lies though and this young man in a wheelchair has no motivation for lying about the bouncer.

ah come off it, have you ever felt the rage for being refused from a place on "not tonight mate" or whatever non-reason you're given.

that's why i made the point of black people being refused, you dont see them turning around with campaigns like this. "they wouldnt let me in because i am black". that doesnt happen in this day and age.

Bouncers may come across as loud, or aggressive to some people, but it's sh!te like this that maybe makes some of them this way?

anyway, my point is, he THINKS he has a lot to gain by twisting the story.

skimpydoo · 11-03-2013 05:48PM

The Road Runner wrote: »

Infact if all these muppets on facebook are going to be avoiding the Maddison it might be somewhere I'll frequent in the future.

Do you mean the muppet's abroad who will never come to Ireland and see fit to comment. Or the Irish muppet's commenting. Was walking past Madison last Friday and I could hear music playing but you calling it music was wrong as it was ****e, so you will never see me in there for that reason.

orestes · 11-03-2013 05:48PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

I read the whole thread and apart from one reposted page from facebook in which another bouncer alleges that the young wheelchair bound man and his attractive friends are liars there is no evidence to go against Mr Bolger. Bouncers because of the sort of job it is tend to stick together. If someone might stick a knife in your back you like to know that someone else is watching it!

What I do see here is the sort of vile bullying that welcomes the opportunity to attack someone for being in a wheelchair.

The weak, the lazy and those who cannot make a go of their own lives love to attack the marginalised. That's what is driving the attacks on Mr Bolger.

http://files.sharenator.com/They_see_me_trollin_They_hatin_The_Art_of_Trolling-s447x686-128686-565.jpg

tvnutz · 11-03-2013 05:49PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

I read the whole thread and apart from one reposted page from facebook in which another bouncer alleges that the young wheelchair bound man and his attractive friends are liars there is no evidence to go against Mr Bolger. Bouncers because of the sort of job it is tend to stick together. If someone might stick a knife in your back you like to know that someone else is watching it!

What I do see here is the sort of vile bullying that welcomes the opportunity to attack someone for being in a wheelchair.

The weak, the lazy and those who cannot make a go of their own lives love to attack the marginalised. That's what is driving the attacks on Mr Bolger.

I have no connection to the young man in a wheelchair at all and rarely go out to nightclubs but I feel that they should have the same rights as everyone else.

By the way the offer to allow Mr Bolger's two female high heel wearing friends is insulting and dismissive of his right to enter the night club.

This makes so much more sense now, you're the chick in the OP's photo with the nice arse,right?

DeanAustin · 11-03-2013 05:49PM

kidneyfan wrote: »

Because I would hope that the bad experience of being in a wheelchair helps them to become better people.

Are you having a laugh?

I hope you are or you're tremendously naive.

Tar.Aldarion · 11-03-2013 05:49PM

kidneyfan wrote:

Pretty shocking to call a disabled man a liar.

Pretty shocking to treat a disabled man differently from other men.

Wheelchair user refused entry to Dublin Nightclub.

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