Wheelchair user refused entry to Dublin Nightclub.

He was probably legless from the drink and refused entry on those grounds

vikingdub wrote: »

I cannot think of a more stupid and dangerous suggestion, what would happen if the staff trip on the stair and drop the wheelchair and its occupant?

What would happen if there was a fire or the premises needed to be evacuated for one reason or another?

What would happen if the staff weren't trained to carry people and threw their backs out.

Fratton Fred wrote: »

No DCC would have decided it wasn't practicable to have disabled access. Which is why I also said it shouldn't be down to the bouncer to decide who can and cant come in.

They should be able to state that their public liability license doesn't allow for people in wheel chairs. End of story.

But it is ultimately always his decision and again, you're assuming he was turned away for simply being in a wheelchair.

Pity your friend wasn't a black immigrant traveller burka clad wheelchair bound blind woman and got refused.
Then the **** really would have hit the fan.

EoghanIRL wrote: »

Really is disgraceful that this sort of discrimination still goes on .

Against bouncers or people in wheelchairs??

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Some parts of this are very strange, how come someone just happened to be around to take a picture of him outside the club.

If I was refused entry the first thing to come into my head wouldn't be " let's take a picture of me looking sad outside the club".


And what was he doing that he had "45 minutes of embarrassment", sure it only takes a few minutes at most to be refused.

Some years ago a friend and myself were refused entry, not to a nightclub, but to a pub, on the grounds that we were "too old". We were in our early 50s at the time. We could have taken an action under the Equal Status legislation, instead we went elsewhere and had a good laugh. There is no way we would have considered contacting the media and making utter fools of ourselves.

I cannot understand how this guy managed to string out the refusal, no matter how badly handled, into "45 minutes of humiliation".

Fratton Fred wrote: »

It doesn't matter, adequate allowance should have been made for disabled access. This applies to the refurbishment of premises as well as new construction.

This should have been covered in their planning application and licence. Firstly and foremost because they are an employer.

I suggest you read both the Employment Equality Act, Equal Status Act, and the building regulations, where you find that what is required is "reasonable accommodation". The type of building modification and expense required to make the building the Madison operates from wheelchair accessible would not fall into the category of "reasonable accommodation".

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Of course it's not. He enforces the managements policy. The owners decide dress code, age etc not the bouncer. The bouncer cant just decide to stop letting in people with blonde hair, because the owners won't be too happy.

The assumption that he was turned away for being in a wheelchair is the same one made by most people on this thread.

It's the bouncers discretion if someone is drunk or not and if you are refused you will usually not be given a reason, so for all you or the managment know he refused them for being drunk but he really doesn't like blonde hair or wheelchair bound people, you wouldn't know.

The assumption says it all, as that's all it is.

Mental Mickey wrote: »

It may well be a stupid publicity stunt, but it still doesn't hide the fact that a lot of public places are still not wheelchair accessible.

And some never will be, that is the reality, older buildings, listed buildings, etc simply cannot be retrofitted without extraordinary and unjustifiable expense and/or causing damage to an historically important building.

frank reynolds wrote: »

so did the nightclub in question. They wouldnt be allowed to operate/open the business to the public without having been thoroughly checked by different departments of the local authority (in this case it would be DCC).

If they keep the lease going from the last crowd they can avoid some inspections. There's a pub in my town that has been desperate to keep the lease going because the owners know that if they have to reopen the pub it won't pass any safety inspections. Buildings that are unsuitable shouldn't be given licenses, it's as simple as that. The older buildings in town are just not suitable or more likely the people investing don't want to put in the money required to make them suitable.

Magenta wrote: »

I have to say.... Disabled people can be very obnoxious. I lived across the pond for a while, where there were many obese people in electric wheelchairs. They would literally mow you down if you didn't jump out of THEIR way. This being in a busy shopping area!

I've had dealings with disabled people, those restricted to wheelchairs specifically. While sometimes they may come off as obnoxious it's often fuelled by the way they're treated by able bodied people who seem to assume people in wheelchairs can do everything some able bodied person can do they just do it sitting down. Able bodied people just don't understand how hard it is to push your weight around in a chair. Able bodied people also just don't have the awareness needed around someone in a wheelchair, walking in front of them then complaining when they get an ankle biting from the chair.

I think a lack of awareness of other people is common in Ireland, just look at the way we drive and park.

username123 wrote: »

The abuse directed at the club and the bouncer has been pretty bad. Actually its been horrendous. If it was a family member of mine I would be horrified at people saying they are going to shoot him in the legs or set his house on fire. Shocking stuff.

I quite agree! If this is a publicity stunt then its frankly disgusting.