Stupid Judges Judgements

Dublin Bus took measures to try and facilitate the woman. If the company proved (which I assume it did) that it had put in place these measures I can't see how they can be sued for the actions of some of their employees.

They can..be sued, I mean. If you're a grumpy old Lady, you'll sue the company for noise disruption or whatever on the grounds that it's their agents who may be causing the problem - in this case the driver.

The legal advice the lady will get is "You've no business sueing the bloke taking home x thousand € a year - he doesn't have his own public liability insurance and can't afford to pay out the kind of damages you're gonna look for - Hit The Company!"

Strike

Largely a red herring. Dunno how a Union could even attempt to justify 'switching off a bus at a terminus' as an 'intolerable burden on their working conditions'. I mean - I say that and I'd consider meself a bit of a leftie!

Given that the publicans are only enforcing the law, I don't see how they can legitimately be in an actionable position for the behaviour of people outside their premises. They're not the direct cause of any disturbance caused by people on the street.

Oh aye - I know that. You know that. It won't stop people bringing actions though. And like I said above - they're more likely to be able to 'afford' an action. Who's right and Who's wrong is one for those better qualified than us to figure out. If it's written down that publicans have an obligation to observe some kind of peace and quiet thing...they somebody somewhere'll have 'em for a few bob. Or else there will be raft of objections to renewal of Licenses. All I'm saying is that the ball has started rolling.

*taps nose*

say no more!

Again, logically, why would anyone move near a pub if they objected to a bit of noise at night?

Noise out on the street is a bit different. You'll tend to get (come closing time) a lot more yelling, a lot more f***aboutery going on. I don't live near a pub (dammit) but I...er...know of people who do and aren't impressed!

People have a large degree of freedom of choice and if their free choices turn out badly, to any sane mind, they must accept the consequences of these decisions.

Depends. I mean - if you've had a tolerable situation that has lasted for x years, and suddently that changes without any recognition of your wishes, don't you have a right to complain?
You live beside a pub, and over the years you get used to the 'steady hummm' of voices and whatever, but by and large, the noise is absorbed by the furnishings and whatever of the pub. That's fine.
But suddenly the smoking ban tends to bring a louder clientelle out onto the streets where, coupled with late drinks on friday/saturday, it's considerably more difficult to get a nights sleep.

I'm not sure you should have to take that on the chin.

parallel example - it's okay to live by Heathrow Airport by day - yeah, you get the jets screaming in etc, but it's not all thru the night, so at least you get a nights sleep. What's happened is that the government in the UK suddently decided to let Heathrow go 24 hours. Now - that's not a case where the 'freedom of choice exercised turn out badly and must be accepted'. Okay - you can move, but you shouldn't have to just cos of a decision being made by legislators that doesn't take full consideration of the rights of others indirectly affected.

It's called 'joined up thinking' and it's something we're not all to good at!

Where did you find a 9 year old thread ,prepare to be sentenced crime of necrothread

The Mods will be around in a little while and you will be sentenced to 6 months with hard labour for resurrecting such an old thread.:D