When are the Gardai going to get their act together re: crime epidemic in Ireland ?

jetsonx · 07-03-2013 01:44PM #1

I am fed up of it at this stage.

On a daily basis now i hear from colleagues, neighbors or friends who have been
mugged or burgled. It seems to rampant in most urban and rural areas in Ireland now.

Whilst the Gardai are great at doing low-hanging fruit police work like setting up
speed traps they seem to failing miserably with their core mission: preventing and fighting crime.

castletownman · 07-03-2013 01:46PM

The Gardai can only do so much. Until the Minister for Justice cops on and realises that the closure and downgrading of rural Garda Stations is just going to make the tackling of crime a lot harder, then the Gardai, whether you like them or not, are fighting a losing battle.

Valetta · 07-03-2013 01:48PM

Do your colleagues, neighbors (sic) and friends live in "most urban and rural ares in Ireland"?

can you show statistics that there is a crime epidemic in Ireland?

The traffic corp great at setting up speed traps? Well what do you know. Efficient policing as it should be.

davet82 · 07-03-2013 01:52PM

When are the Gardai going to get their act together

when their resources and numbers stopped getting cut maybe?

sfwcork · 07-03-2013 01:53PM

I think the OP is watching to much CSI or NCIS

Its hardly the bronx lad

SEPT 23 1989 · 07-03-2013 01:55PM

Much heavier sentences is the answer

DipStick McSwindler · 07-03-2013 01:55PM

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monkeypants · 07-03-2013 01:57PM

jetsonx wrote: »

On a daily basis now i hear from colleagues, neighbors or friends who have been mugged or burgled.

Seriously?

AnonoBoy · 07-03-2013 02:01PM

I have anecdotal proof that everything I say is exactly true.

Isn't that enough for you people?

Insect Overlord · 07-03-2013 02:01PM

jetsonx wrote: »

On a daily basis now i hear from colleagues, neighbors or friends who have been
mugged or burgled. It seems to rampant in most urban and rural areas in Ireland now.

The plural of anecdote is not data.

DeanAustin · 07-03-2013 02:03PM

I hope the OP is on a wind up.

If not, this thread is a sad reflection of the type of country Ireland has become.

anncoates · 07-03-2013 02:04PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Much heavier sentences is the answer

Done.

The_Kew_Tour · 07-03-2013 02:05PM

We were broken into twice when in Dublin 7 once we caught the guy and had him pinned.

Rang guards 4 times and never came.

Now I have complete sympathy for the Gardai in certain aspects. But this was during boom time when plenty of Gardai were about.

Some of them did not scratch their hole then and now they complain that they lack numbers?

This runs both ways.

Criminals need to be given lot tougher sentences though. Some are joke and no wonder some Gardai are losing morale for the job.

recyclebin · 07-03-2013 02:09PM

I live in a rural area and there has been alot of burglaries in the area over the last year.

Where can we get stats to compare the crime rates between the celtic tiger and now as I would think what the OP is saying about burglary rates is true.

Super-Rush · 07-03-2013 02:09PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

We were broken into twice when in Dublin 7 once we caught the guy and had him pinned.

Rang guards 4 times and never came.

Now I have complete sympathy for the Gardai in certain aspects. But this was during boom time when plenty of Gardai were about.

Some of them did not scratch their hole then and now they complain that they lack numbers?

This runs both ways.

Criminals need to be given lot tougher sentences though. Some are joke and no wonder some Gardai are losing morale for the job.

What did you do with the burglar?

Do you still have him?

The_Kew_Tour · 07-03-2013 02:14PM

Super-Rush wrote: »

What did you do with the burglar?

Do you still have him?

My mate gave him few decent belts and we left it.

We did not know if that was the wise thing to do, but never seen him again.

sfwcork · 07-03-2013 02:17PM

wrote:

Super-Rush

What did you do with the burglar?

Do you still have him?

his tied to the bin out back until he apologises

az2wp0sye65487 · 07-03-2013 02:18PM

I wonder how true it is that if you mention a gun there will be a much more lively response?

Super-Rush · 07-03-2013 02:19PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

My mate gave him few decent belts and we left it.

We did not know if that was the wise thing to do, but never seen him again.

I'm disappointed.

I thought you were going to say he was working as your butler.

The_Kew_Tour · 07-03-2013 02:20PM

Super-Rush wrote: »

I'm disappointed.

I thought you were going to say he was working as your butler.

Nah too smelly.

Cienciano · 07-03-2013 02:20PM

Some of them have their act together, some of them are useless arseholes, same as any other group of people. You get useless people in any line of work.
The only problem is, when you get a useless garda, it can effect you a lot and leave a bad taste in your mouth.
Most dealings I've had with garda have been decent, but a few stories of how lazy some of them are beggars belief.

old hippy · 07-03-2013 02:21PM

jetsonx wrote: »

I am fed up of it at this stage.

On a daily basis now i hear from colleagues, neighbors or friends who have been
mugged or burgled. It seems to rampant in most urban and rural areas in Ireland now.

Whilst the Gardai are great at doing low-hanging fruit police work like setting up
speed traps they seem to failing miserably with their core mission: preventing and fighting crime.

Is it the 70's again? Some things never change.

Lando Griffin · 07-03-2013 02:23PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Much heavier sentences is the answer

Id say education is key.
I am not sure but if there was a survay done then I would safely say that people who get an education up to 3rd level would be 86% approx less likely to commit a crime.

fatknacker · 07-03-2013 02:25PM

Gards don't prevent crime, they only apprehend the criminals. When they can.

Grayson · 07-03-2013 02:26PM

define epidemic? have there been figures released for the last 12 months that show a massive increase? I wouldn't call 5, or 10 percent an epidemic. But if it's up at 100% increase I would.

See, nearly everytime people give out about an "Epidemic" it's scare mongering. The epidemic of people scamming the dole for example. less than 1% of people do this, but it's been cited as a huge problem in the past.

Pretty much any time people give out about an increase in crime, it's not an increase in crime, it's an increase in the coverage crime gets in newspapers.

old hippy · 07-03-2013 02:29PM

Grayson wrote: »

define epidemic? have there been figures released for the last 12 months that show a massive increase? I wouldn't call 5, or 10 percent an epidemic. But if it's up at 100% increase I would.

See, nearly everytime people give out about an "Epidemic" it's scare mongering. The epidemic of people scamming the dole for example. less than 1% of people do this, but it's been cited as a huge problem in the past.

Pretty much any time people give out about an increase in crime, it's not an increase in crime, it's an increase in the coverage crime gets in newspapers.

There seems to be an epidemic of these threads. Hordes of them, swamping us. Boards will be overrun with them before you know.

Grayson · 07-03-2013 02:30PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Much heavier sentences is the answer

Do you have any evidence to suggest this works? Because they behead people for murder in Saudi and murders still occur. They chop off hands for theft, but theft still occurs.

jam_mac_jam · 07-03-2013 02:31PM

Is there really? what is the crime rates compared to other countries. Ireland is actually quite safe I would think. Epidemic? Really? Or have you been reading the Herald too much?

Matt_Trakker · 07-03-2013 02:32PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Is there really? what is the crime rates compared to other countries. Ireland is actually quite safe I would think. Epidemic? Really? Or have you been reading the Herald too much?

+1

tin79 · 07-03-2013 02:33PM

Is it just me or is nearly every thread in AH these days going round and round in the same simpleton, daily mail-esque, circles.

Ocassional witty comments aside.

Maybe I am just getting old.

xLexie · 07-03-2013 02:33PM

The gardai do the best they can, IMO. Must be pretty frustrating spending ages chasing and trying to catch known criminals in the act, only for them to go to court and come out with a slap on the wrist.

When are the Gardai going to get their act together re: crime epidemic in Ireland ?

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