Chemical waste dumped by British off Donegal and Kerry coast

EURATS · 03-03-2013 01:23PM #1

http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/D/0451/D.0451.199503230052.html

Anyone for fish?

mike65 · 03-03-2013 01:26PM

Dáil Éireann - Volume 451 - 23 March, 1995

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squod · 03-03-2013 01:27PM

Donegal coast in the mid-1950s. Three ships containing 76,000 tonnes of aircraft bombs packed with deadly gas were secretly scuttled by the British Navy in waters between Donegal and Rockall and 3,500 tonnes of 23 lb. artillery shells containing mustard nerve gas, including Sarin gas, were dumped in sealed containers over the side of British vessels about 40 miles of Malin Head.

Minister Coveney says 'it's the previous administrations fault don't you know, rabble rabble'.

EURATS · 03-03-2013 01:39PM

squod wrote: »

Minister Coveney says 'it's the previous administrations fault don't you know, rabble rabble'.

Wasn't aware that individual had anything to say about it. Would hope to hear the British making arrangements for the safe removal of this material.

md23040 · 03-03-2013 01:50PM

EURATS wrote: »

Wasn't aware that individual had anything to say about it. Would hope to hear the British making arrangements for the safe removal of this material.

Don't the islands of the West coast have a higher cluster rate of cancer compared to the National average.

This story was recently on Highland radio Donegal and was mentioning the barrels were beginning to leak through retardation.

Also at one stage the UK government in the 1990s considered proposals for a tunnel from Stranraer to Larne but this was quickly dismissed not only on financial viability grounds but also because of the large amounts of armaments dropped in the straits after the Second World War.

The whole thing remains disgraceful but nothing will be done about it.

WoollyRedHat · 03-03-2013 01:50PM

It took 18 years for this to come to your attention. Bit late to the party.

Scruffles · 03-03-2013 01:51PM

EURATS wrote: »

Wasn't aware that individual had anything to say about it. Would hope to hear the British making arrangements for the safe removal of this material.

yes,collectively blame all of us residing in britain for the actions of a government,when they dont give a sht about us let alone neighbouring countries.

suicide_circus · 03-03-2013 01:51PM

800......leagues under the sea?

ejmaztec · 03-03-2013 01:53PM

EURATS wrote: »

Wasn't aware that individual had anything to say about it. Would hope to hear the British making arrangements for the safe removal of this material.

Probably impossible unless they drain the sea.

WoollyRedHat · 03-03-2013 01:54PM

There's two schools of thought on this.

My name is URL · 03-03-2013 01:56PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

There's two schools of thought on this.

And one of them is made up mostly of fish with 3 eyes

EURATS · 03-03-2013 01:58PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

It took 18 years for this to come to your attention. Bit late to the party.

I don't see any other thread on it. Do u?

EURATS · 03-03-2013 02:01PM

Scruffles wrote: »

yes,collectively blame all of us residing in britain for the actions of a government,when they dont give a sht about us let alone neighbouring countries.

Sure I guess the Irish should pay for it. We are good at that!!

ejmaztec · 03-03-2013 02:01PM

My name is URL wrote: »

And one of them is made up mostly of fish with 3 eyes

That's probably why some people talk about the "conundrum" of "Donegal Catch."

Tell me, what does the name 'Donegal Catch' suggest to you? The clues are in the words 'Donegal' and 'Catch.'
It sounds to me like someone 'caught' a fish in 'Donegal,' then froze it, and sold it in the supermarket. Simple enough?
The packet even says that the name 'Donegal Catch' is your guarantee that you're buying only the finest fish 'from the deep and cold waters of the Atlantic.
But what are we to make of the fine print on the Donegal Catch foil packet? The small bit of text that admits that the packet contains farmed fish from many countries of origin, including Chile
If I may be a bit dense for a moment, how does one reasonably expect to 'catch' a 'Donegal' (Atlantic) fish, while it resides in a 'farm' in Chile (Pacific)?

http://www.darwin.ie/?p=140

squod · 03-03-2013 02:12PM

EURATS wrote: »

Wasn't aware that individual had anything to say about it. Would hope to hear the British making arrangements for the safe removal of this material.

Just slaggin'. Everything is the previous administrations fault. That's the way FG roll.

seanmacc · 03-03-2013 02:21PM

Another place I'd be concerned about is the Beauford Dyke. Its situated between Antrim and Scotland and is where the Brits decided would be a great place to dispose of their WW1 chemical weapons. A few of them washed up on Antrim beaches during the 90's and in truth has probably caused more contamination in the Irish Sea than Sellafield,

squod · 03-03-2013 02:24PM

seanmacc wrote: »

Another place I'd be concerned about is the Beauford Dyke. Its situated between Antrim and Scotland and is where the Brits decided would be a great place to dispose of their WW1 chemical weapons. A few of them washed up on Antrim beaches during the 90's and in truth has probably caused more contamination in the Irish Sea than Sellafield,

Dumped by the queens navy? On the doorsteps of all those unionists? Jaysus.

hadepsx · 03-03-2013 02:43PM

this springs to mind

http://www.google.ie/imgres?q=pic+of+three+eyed+fish&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1366&bih=641&tbm=isch&tbnid=MuQD4yXBgsiXDM:&imgrefurl=http://thefw.com/three-eyed-fish-found-the-simpsons/&docid=5Zcq4gHSC1_E-M&imgurl=http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/thefw.com/files/2011/10/three-eyed-fish.jpg&w=640&h=480&ei=WVMzUZG2N4uJhQfRnICwCQ&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:10,s:0,i:107&iact=rc&dur=844&sig=107596084783394722763&page=1&tbnh=180&tbnw=226&start=0&ndsp=18&tx=94&ty=82

Where To · 03-03-2013 03:00PM

There's enough sh1te(literally) going into the sea right now folks, and it isn't the Brits that's doing it either.

seanmacc · 03-03-2013 03:16PM

squod wrote: »

Dumped by the queens navy? On the doorsteps of all those unionists? Jaysus.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4032629.stm

The Brits are like those neighbours from hell who throw their bin bags over the fence in the middle of the night.

EURATS · 03-03-2013 03:21PM

Where To wrote: »

There's enough sh1te(literally) going into the sea right now folks, and it isn't the Brits that's doing it either.

Sh1te is one thing. What they dumped off our coast is another.

Mr Benevolent · 03-03-2013 03:22PM

I'll just leave this here. Far more dangerous than decades old mustard gas.

EURATS · 03-03-2013 03:55PM

Confab wrote: »

I'll just leave this here. Far more dangerous than decades old mustard gas.

To be fair..that link belongs in another thread(not to say it isn't a massive issue).

Mustard gas...and the rest

donegal_road · 03-03-2013 04:11PM

Sherman tank on seabed off Malin Head

amazing whats down there.. here is a good shot

Augmerson · 03-03-2013 04:13PM

Jesus, how polluted are our waters exactly? Fairly frightening stuff.

Augmerson · 03-03-2013 04:15PM

donegal_road wrote: »

Sherman tank on seabed off Malin Head

amazing whats down there.. here is a good shot

We should salvage those, use them to invade the North. Then go for Scotland and Wales and Cornwall.

Tis our land.

donegal_road · 03-03-2013 04:25PM

some years ago, a local sub aqua club were talking about a sunken submarine in Donegal Bay that had a lot of mercury on board, and that the seams were beginning to corrode on the hull.

If and when the hull would disintegrate, the mercury would be released into the water. The environmental impact would be huge, not to mention the long term health dangers to the people of the area.

Must try to find out more about it for this thread.

Fratton Fred · 03-03-2013 04:33PM

donegal_road wrote: »

some years ago, a local sub aqua club were talking about a sunken submarine in Donegal Bay that had a lot of mercury on board, and that the seams were beginning to corrode on the hull.

If and when the hull would disintegrate, the mercury would be released into the water. The environmental impact would be huge, not to mention the long term health dangers to the people of the area.

Must try to find out more about it for this thread.

That wasn't the diving club in Muff as it?

donegal_road · 03-03-2013 04:52PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

That wasn't the diving club in Muff as it?

you mean these guys

http://www.muffdivingclub.ie/

2 stroke · 04-03-2013 03:41AM

Back in the 1980s a retired science teacher told me that during the last war he had made devices for the irish government. They packed them into any container they could find, mostly glass bottles. These were never used and were also disposed of at sea, but where?

Capt'n Midnight · 04-03-2013 07:14PM

2 stroke wrote: »

Back in the 1980s a retired science teacher told me that during the last war he had made devices for the irish government. They packed them into any container they could find, mostly glass bottles. These were never used and were also disposed of at sea, but where?

probably Molotov Cocktails

http://www.npi.gov.au/substances/carbon-disulfide/environmental.html

Chemical waste dumped by British off Donegal and Kerry coast

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