Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

Justin10 · 03-03-2013 12:37AM

InchicoreDude wrote: »

Yeah, sorry, heard a Mayo fan moaning about it after as I was walking out.

He took it a good bit away from where he was meant to, its normal?
Also was probably due after the hand passed free taken in the first half resulting in O'Shea getting a point.

InchicoreDude · 03-03-2013 12:42AM

ColeTrain wrote: »

The defence were overworked tonight partly because we struggled to hold the ball going forward, something the three players above are good at doing. I agree though the defence didn't look great at times even with the extra man.

Out of interest, who would those 3 players actually replace tonight?

I assume O'Connor for Varley, Dillion for a midfielder (and put A. O Se to midfield). And Moran for Feeney????

InchicoreDude · 03-03-2013 12:44AM

Rochey18 wrote: »

He took it a good bit away from where he was meant to, its normal?
Also was probably due after the hand passed free taken in the first half resulting in O'Shea getting a point.

In fairness, he was just trying to take a quick free and it wasnt that far away. I think that rule is often not used in the correct way by referees.

But yes, as you say, it evened out the hand-pass incident.

People blame refs all the time but they are very very rarely the cause of a defeat.

ColeTrain · 03-03-2013 12:49AM

InchicoreDude wrote: »

Out of interest, who would those 3 players actually replace tonight?

I assume O'Connor for Varley, Dillion for a midfielder (and put A. O Se to midfield). And Moran for Feeney????

Yeah they probably are the obvious switches. Full strength would resemble something like this

McLoughlin..Moran..Dillon
O'Connor...Doherty..Conroy

InchicoreDude · 03-03-2013 12:54AM

ColeTrain wrote: »

Yeah they probably are the obvious switches. Full strength would resemble something like this

McLoughlin..Moran..Dillon
O'Connor...Doherty..Conroy

Thats a very strong forward line in fairness (although each of the full forward line are prone to inconsistency).

ColeTrain · 03-03-2013 12:59AM

InchicoreDude wrote: »

Thats a very strong forward line in fairness (although each of the full forward line are prone to inconsistency).

Keeping them fit and in form is the only issue.

We seem to be able to tear teams apart at times but then struggle to mount an attack minutes later. Plenty of time to find some consistency. Down are next for us.

tacofries · 03-03-2013 02:00AM

feckin was workin this evenin so missed the match, .

How did mcloughlin do? and was keane playing/how was he??

Always_Running · 03-03-2013 02:43AM

InchicoreDude wrote: »

Thats a very strong forward line in fairness (although each of the full forward line are prone to inconsistency).

Don't think O'Connor is inconsistent however he needs to improve his scoring from play.

InchicoreDude · 03-03-2013 12:26PM

tacofries wrote: »

feckin was workin this evenin so missed the match, .

How did mcloughlin do? and was keane playing/how was he??

McLoughlin was excellent. I felt him & Doherty were Mayo's two best performers. I see McLoughlin takes the frees now too. Varley took the left footed frees for Mayo last year, didn't he?

Keane wasn't playing, cant remember if he came on.

Mayo's biggest problem was that they couldn't hold Brogan (or stop good ball being played into him) and McManamon (Dunno why this guy is ALWAYS a sub for Dublin as he is excellent whenever he comes on).

Defiler Of The Coffin · 03-03-2013 01:05PM

Another one left behind in croker. I thought cluxton missing the penalty would spur us on but we just couldn't control midfield and Dublin were very efficient up front. Doherty and McLoughlin were the only ones who really showed for Mayo up front but O'Connor was badly missed when it came to the frees also. We should still beat Down next week but the team seems to have lost the killer instinct they had last year

Fowler87 · 03-03-2013 03:47PM

Barlett wrote: »

I think ye cursed Cafferkey tonight lads

Bit of a humble pie there alright :pac: But along with Zippy, our two best defenders werent at the races for most of that game. McMananam, Brogan and Dubs 13 really gave them a tough time of it but that was nearly a Dubs forward line at full throttle at a very early stage of the season. Sharper, hungrier and better all round tactically even with 14. So it was a good test as its unlikey Mayo will face that consistently throughout the year. Brogan is a super player. That sideline kick was class.

Mayo unlike the Tyrone were good at times in the forward line and the supply was a bit better especially in the first half, Varley destroying O'Connoll in the early stages of the first half. Conroy was his usual livewire. A very good corner forward and will be interesting to see him and Moran link up again. Same problems in the half forward line which is worrying. Need to find a capable centre half forward. Probably one of the main reasons we're badly struggling to create goal chances atm

Barlett · 03-03-2013 04:01PM

Fowler87 wrote: »

Bit of a humble pie there alright :pac: But along with Zippy, our two best defenders werent at the races for most of that game. McMananam, Brogan and Dubs 13 really gave them a tough time of it but that was nearly a Dubs forward line at full throttle at a very early stage of the season. Sharper, hungrier and better all round tactically even with 14. So it was a good test as its unlikey Mayo will face that consistently throughout the year. Brogan is a super player. That sideline kick was class.

Mayo unlike the Tyrone were good at times in the forward line and the supply was a bit better especially in the first half, Varley destroying O'Connoll in the early stages of the first half. Conroy was his usual livewire. A very good corner forward and will be interesting to see him and Moran link up again. Same problems in the half forward line which is worrying. Need to find a capable centre half forward. Probably one of the main reasons we're badly struggling to create goal chances atm

Well on his current form Doherty will have to make the first 15 so once O'Connor is ft I would think Moran may be the centre half forward. He is great at bringing others into the game. I'd like to see the two O'Sheas start in midfield next week

I think the loss of Moran is the main reason we don't look like scoring goals in comparison to the threat the team carried last year. Still I well remember the same inconsistency in the league last year too

seligehgit · 03-03-2013 06:29PM

InchicoreDude wrote: »

hmm, not quite the calibre of player I was referring to!

And strangely enough, I think Mayo have more problems in defence than attack!

Totally agree with you,far more to be concerned with regard to the defence.I was amazed the extra man was not deployed in the full backline.Definitely gave Cafferkey the kiss of death with my praises in past posts.Keith Higgins had a real shocker,the O Shea experiment at centre forward was a dismal failure.
At this stage I am convinced Jason Gibbons is not the solution as yet at centrefield,re Seamus O Shea he has already had his chance to stake a claim,poor against Kerry,absolute shocker against Tyrone.His wide was probably the worst of many bad ones.
Donal Vaughan had a shocker,definitely not good enough to hold the centre.
Re the Dubs,they're definitely that bit sharper at this stage and hungrier.It was a joy to be in Croker and witness Bernard Brogan's performance,right beside the converted sideline kick.Dubs have taken to calling him Maurice Fitz!:)I can't for the life of me understand how Kevin McManamon does not start for Dublin.
Badly need two points next weekend,relegation would be a disaster.

yop · 03-03-2013 10:39PM

Disappointed with the result, we didnt deserve anything from it. Good save by keeper for the penalty but his positioning for the 2nd goal was way off, brogan flicked on a punch which could have resulted in a goal. Clarke will be better in there for sure.
O'Shea gives us no benefit there tbh. Thought the forwards played well.
I think Vaughan is on borrowed time there, too sluggish and seems to be at the end of a lot of frees we give away and is burnt against anyone with pace.
Time to stop fk around with experiments and get the team back on track. Need to stay in Div 1.

Stoner · 04-03-2013 03:16AM

I thought Varley scores were very well taken, he's very accurate he also stood up and took a shot when others didn't really want to know.

Fr Tod Umptious · 05-03-2013 01:42PM

I hope that what we are seeing from Doherty is not lust league form.

He seems to be more involved this year though, scroning from distance etc, the last time he had a great league in 2011 he seemd be be a bit of a goal poacher.

Speaking of goals I think I have only seen one since the early 2nd half v Down, and that came from a back.

ColeTrain · 05-03-2013 01:56PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I hope that what we are seeing from Doherty is not lust league form.

He seems to be more involved this year though, scroning from distance etc, the last time he had a great league in 2011 he seemd be be a bit of a goal poacher.

Speaking of goals I think I have only seen one since the early 2nd half v Down, and that came from a back.

Higgins vs Tyrone.
Goals will win you games as they say. Hopefully there will be a couple against Down.

mayo.mick · 05-03-2013 02:26PM

We badly need a win in Newry Saturday night. We were in more or less the same position last year, facing relegation but ending up in the final!

keane2097 · 05-03-2013 02:40PM

I wouldn't be convinced O'Connor is a shoo-in to get back into the team.

SomethingElse · 05-03-2013 09:38PM

keane2097 wrote: »

I wouldn't be convinced O'Connor is a shoo-in to get back into the team.

Agreed. He offers very little from open play, but he is one of the only players we have who can consistently kick 45s and long distance frees.

Fr Tod Umptious · 08-03-2013 04:44PM

Team for tomorrow night from mayo gaa site

1) Kenneth O'Malley - Ballinrobe
2) Chris Barrett - Belmullet
3) Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4) Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5) Lee Keegan - Westport
6) Donal Vaughan - Ballinrobe
7) Colm Boyle - Davitts
8) Barry Moran - Castlebar Mitchels
9) Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
10) Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11) Richie Feeney - Castlebar Mitchels
12) Cathal Carolan - Crossmolina
13) Enda Varley - Garrymore
14) Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
15) Michael Conroy - Davitts

16) David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
17) Keith Rogers - Ballaghaderreen
18) Tom Cunniffe - Castlebar Mitchels
19) Kevin Keane - Westport
20) Michael Walsh - Ardnaree
21) Danny Geraghty - Ballintubber
22) Jason Gibbons - Ballintubber
23) Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
24) Alan Freeman - Aghamore
25) Cathal Freeman - Aghamore
26) Alan Murphy - Ballinrobe

AOS back into midfield with Barry Moran

Cathal Carolan come in at half forward, to be honest I do not know anything about him.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 08-03-2013 09:10PM

It's a must-win game for both teams. Down need the win to avoid relegation and Mayo need the win to be in with a chance of making the semis. Down were unlucky to lose against Cork last week but I still think Mayo should take this one. They're just not at the same level as Mayo at this point in time. O'Shea is back in midfield where he belongs and I don't think Coulter will pose the same threat as did all those seasons ago, either Higgins or Caff should be able to contain him.

Syferus · 09-03-2013 05:26PM

Based on Mayo's track record of terrible place-kicking prior to his arrival O'Connor will walk back into the side, if only because he's a bigtime free-taker.

The lad's still U21 so he has plenty of time yet to develop other aspects of his game, but that learning will be done from the starting line-up and not the bench. Shoe-in for Galway if he's fit.

blowitupref · 09-03-2013 05:59PM

Syferus wrote: »

Based on Mayo's track record of terrible place-kicking prior to his arrival O'Connor will walk back into the side, if only because he's a bigtime free-taker.

The lad's still U21 so he has plenty of time yet to develop other aspects of his game, but that learning will be done from the starting line-up and not the bench. Shoe-in for Galway if he's fit.

As displayed this year Jason Doherty is a more than capable free-taker. I can imagine O'Connor,Dillion,Andy Moran will all be starters come championship time Varley,Carolan and Feeney to make way.

Syferus · 09-03-2013 06:24PM

I don't think you can compare Doherty doing well at Sigerson and the league with the clutchness that was O'Connor's kicking in driving rain against Roscommon in 2011 in a Connacht final or Dublin 2012 and any number of big games in between. O'Connor is one of the most unflappable free-takers in the game and that's worth its weight in gold, trying to fix something that isn't broken is a fools' game.

Varley played well in that Dublin game but he's too anonymous in play even compared to O'Connor for me, Varley will struggle to hold down a championship starting spot while O'Connor is someone that Horan has invested alot in already - it's going to take a hell of alot for him to go in another direction at this point.

A possibility, but not a likely one in my opinion.

Always_Running · 09-03-2013 07:45PM

Evan Regan replaces Keith Rogers on the Mayo subs bench. He one of Mayo's U21s.

MaroonAndGreen · 09-03-2013 09:39PM

Terrible result, worrying for Mayo now

Always_Running · 09-03-2013 09:43PM

Another defeat for Mayo 13-11. From 9-4 behind Mayo did great to draw level if they went in front Mayo probably would have won it however, credit to Down they defended well and Donal O'Hare was the best forward on the field. Cathal Carolan played well for Mayo three good scores.

Syferus · 09-03-2013 10:17PM

Down down down? All Connacht teams on dodgy ground right now except Leitrim, and they can't drop any further.

seligehgit · 09-03-2013 10:23PM

Yeah we're in dire straits now, thought we'd sneak a draw from 5 behind, midfield was excellent, the ball been brought forward for the final lead score was crucial.Even O Hare was unlikely to have kicked it before this show of indiscipline.Lee Keegan had an excellent game, surprised Earley awarded him motm though,O Hare or O Shea really stood out.
Some awful first half wides, Mayo have great difficulty with the swarm defence.Carolan was very impressive in attack, Conroy and Doherty showed well.Seems to me Varley and Feeney will struggle to make the team for the championship.

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