Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

GBXI

Yeah, Conroy's strongest trait is that he is a good ball-winner, and very good for winning soft frees! But for me he doesn't score anywhere near enough. Regan, assuming he starts the next game, should be on all frees from the right (McLoughlin just doesn't have that confidence a free-taker has to have). Other than that I'd have Aidan O'Shea taking them, he's well able.

Agreed Cillian should be on all other frees from next week on, assuming he's fit. Can't say how much of a loss Aiden Kilcoyne is to that forward line. He's exactly what they have been missing all year. There must have been some disagreement between himself and Horan...

NabyLadistheman

GBXI wrote: »

Yeah, Conroy's strongest trait is that he is a good ball-winner, and very good for winning soft frees! But for me he doesn't score anywhere near enough. Regan, assuming he starts the next game, should be on all frees from the right (McLoughlin just doesn't have that confidence a free-taker has to have). Other than that I'd have Aidan O'Shea taking them, he's well able.

Agreed Cillian should be on all other frees from next week on, assuming he's fit. Can't say how much of a loss Aiden Kilcoyne is to that forward line. He's exactly what they have been missing all year. There must have been some disagreement between himself and Horan...

Well he was one of the best club footballer's in the county and never got asked to trials apparently. Shame really, is it true he is now playing for London?

GBXI

I heard he is working over there, didn't hear anything about him playing ball though.

yop

Very disappointing and once more frustrating. The situation with the free-kicks is 100% sideline and lack of management. Why are 2 players fighting over who is taking the free-kick?
Settle on 2 free takers, once from each side not the BS thats going on at the minute.
Horan is beginning to worry me a little, this chopping and changing of player and position doesn't help the team or the players. AOS is not a centre forward, never was, never will be.
His goal chance at the start of the match was frustrating, the lad has 2 feet, use them. As for him taking freekicks! No chance, he misses more than he scores. Leave the free's to the lads who take them regular.
Conroy had a bad day at the office.
McLouglin was poor once again.

Its not clicking, we are not getting breaks and we are been rode by ref's, that said we are still panicing on the balls, clocking up too many wides and back to our "Mayo ways" of years ago.

Sunday is now critical, hope that Donegal are off the boil, but we need to get ourselves back in a right mindset and settle the team and the players.
Am wondering if the loss of O'Neill has more of an impact than we realise.

GBXI

yop wrote: »

As for him taking freekicks! No chance, he misses more than he scores. Leave the free's to the lads who take them regular.

He can hardly miss more than McLoughlin did on Saturday night! He also has that bit more confidence that you need in a free-taker. Plus, he can kick the ball more than 30-35 meters, which seems out of McLoughlin's range. I remember O'Shea being a decent free-taker for the Minors as well.

Having said all that, Regan would seem to be a natural right-sided free-taker, took his scores very well on Saturday. Daft decision to take him off looking back.

MaroonAndGreen

I wouldnt be panicking yet lads, its championship form that Mayo will be judged on.. Nobody will be thinking about the league if we beat Galway in Salthill il guarantee ye that...

Padkir

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

I wouldnt be panicking yet lads, its championship form that Mayo will be judged on.. Nobody will be thinking about the league if we beat Galway in Salthill il guarantee ye that...

Agreed. But it's not this year that's the problem. If we get relegated, it will ruin next year because we won't be playing the big teams in the Spring in order to get up to the level needed for Championship.

We need to avoid relegation; it would be a massive blow! Huge game vs Donegal, absolutely crucial!

Mountainlad

What are yer u21s like?

Fr Tod Umptious

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

I wouldnt be panicking yet lads, its championship form that Mayo will be judged on.. Nobody will be thinking about the league if we beat Galway in Salthill il guarantee ye that...

Staying in Div 1 is not the be all and end all but at the same time going into the Championship after having such a dismal league campaign can not be good.

They would go into Salthill in God only knows what shape mentally and could come out with their tails between their legs, and as we know they are not great in the qualifiers.

So they have to win the next two games, that will guarantee Div 1 football and give them a boost for May.

They can still win the League you know !

Win last two game finish on 6pts
Hope Cork loose to Kerry and then top them on head to head, by beating them in the last game.
Hope Donegal loose to Dublin in their final game, but we would still top them on head to head by beating them on Sunday anyway
Hope Down loose to Dublin on Sunday so they are eliminated.
Don't worry what Kerry do as we will top them on head to head if they beat Cork and Tyrone
Win the semi final and final and there you go.

Easy !!!!

Always_Running

Mountainlad wrote: »

What are yer u21s like?

Mostly the 2010 Connacht minor winning team, they lost to Tyrone (eventual All Ireland winners) in All Ireland semi final in a game they should have won.

manofwisdom

Always_Running wrote: »

Mostly the 2010 Connacht minor winning team, they lost to Tyrone (eventual All Ireland winners) in All Ireland semi final in a game they should have won.

Tyrone knocked out of U21 championship tonight. I'm not sure can you use minor results as reference, some players and teams improve once they move up a level.

tacofries

I think If Horan has an overall plan for mayo he'll put it into play against donegal purely for mental reasons. Fair enough he tried out a new team (position wise) and it didn't work, but I do think/hope against Donegal he will play it safe and put the players in positions where they have proved themselves or where he knows that they will work. I think he has to do it against donegal because a win against them would help build the counfidence up after last years final!

Syferus

Always_Running wrote: »

Mostly the 2010 Connacht minor winning team, they lost to Tyrone (eventual All Ireland winners) in All Ireland semi final in a game they should have won.

Galway dealt a hammering to Sligo on Monday but until we see them against Mayo at the weekend it's hard to tell if that means Galway are awesome or Sligo are just very poor.

yop

Down losing was no harm. They are on 2 points now with ourselves and Kerry having played a game more and both have much worse scoring difference.
We NEED to win tomorrow and will be on 4 points with Donegal, then go to Cork and depending if Kerry lose tomorrow we can probably afford to lose and not get relegated!

Heard from a good source today that Horan's pedigree is dropping rapidly within Mayo GAA circles and that a win tomorrow is "required". Though we will see.

Syferus

Grand. Send Jamesy our way before he wrecks the county. Wouldn't like Mayo failing so badly because of such a poor manager.

Some 'supporters' have memories like goldfish.

padd b1975

Sounds like bar stool talk, probably overheard close to last orders.

yop

padd b1975 wrote: »

Sounds like bar stool talk, probably overheard close to last orders.

Not bar stool talk. I don't do barstool talk. As I said, a very good source.

Syferus

At least say what level you're talking about? Club officials, county officials? Would there be bad blood left over after Horan pushed back for better funding after the AI final?

yop

Official level, in camp rows, player disharmony, staff disharmony.
We will see what happens, I think it will be a bad mistake to drop him. But it seems a ready made replacement is lined up.

ColeTrain

It would be disgraceful to get rid of Horan. After last year the least he deserves is another crack at an All-Ireland. The league hasn't been great this year but we lost matches that on another day could have easily won. I can't see it happening even if we were to get relegated.
Looking forward to tomorrow now. We have every chance of staying up if we can beat Donegal, hopefully the players are up for it, I've no doubt they will be.

Fr Tod Umptious

yop wrote: »

Official level, in camp rows, player disharmony, staff disharmony.
We will see what happens, I think it will be a bad mistake to drop him. But it seems a ready made replacement is lined up.

It would be a real shame if that was the case, for some odd reason I though that there was something different in Mayo this last few years..

Anyway Down loosing was good but is the tie-breaker head to head or points difference ?
If it's head to head and we end up on the same points as Down, they win.

Syferus

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

It would be a real shame if that was the case, for some odd reason I though that there was something different in Mayo this last few years..

Anyway Down loosing was good but is the tie-breaker head to head or points difference ?
If it's head to head and we end up on the same points as Down, they win.

The tie-breaker is head-to-head when it's two teams on equal points, if there's more than two it goes to points difference.

yop

Syferus wrote: »

The tie-breaker is head-to-head when it's two teams on equal points, if there's more than two it goes to points difference.

I think it is ya, I think thats how we got the semi's ahead of Dublin last season.

Looking at the next fixtures,
Donegal home to Dublin - You would see Dublin not worrying too much here as they are through now.
Cork - Mayo - Cork if they win today will be through.
Tyrone - Kerry - Tyrone again will be through but they don't do "gimmes"
Down home to Kildare - Tough one to call but Down were not bad last night.

If Donegal "want" to and they get 2 wins they can still qualify for the semis. Though I suspect they dont want to.

Todays results are pivotal.

Time for the team to step up now and play like we know they can.

SomethingElse

At this stage I think Kerry finishing level on points with us would be a good thing, it would nullify the threat of Down relegating us on the head-to-head. If Mayo win today and Kerry lose, we'll all be praying for a Kerry win next weekend!

seligehgit

Any news on a team?

yop

1) David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites (Captain)
2) Chris Barrett - Belmullet
3) Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4) Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5) Lee Keegan - Westport
6) Tom Cunniffe - Castlebar Mitchels
7) Colm Boyle - Davitts
8) Barry Moran - Castlebar Mitchels
9) Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
10) Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11) Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12) Cathal Carolan - Crossmolina
13) Cillian O'Connor - Ballintubber
14) Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
15) Michael Conroy - Davitts

16) Kenneth O'Malley - Ballinrobe
17) Kevin Keane - Westport
18) Michael Walsh - Ardnaree
19) Shane McHale - Knockmore
20) Jason Gibbons - Ballintubber
21) Alan Freeman - Aghamore
22) Cathal Freeman - Aghamore
23) Richie Feeney - Castlebar Mitchels
24) Enda Varley - Garrymore
25) Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
26) Alan Murphy - Ballinrobe

c_man

Anyone know if this game is on TG4 today?

yop

c_man wrote: »

Anyone know if this game is on TG4 today?

I believe it is

padd b1975

yop wrote: »

Official level, in camp rows, player disharmony, staff disharmony.

Absolute bull crap.

One of the selectors works with my brother in law, and according to him the panel were very dissapointed when Cian O' Neill left as he was well respected by the players. This had nothing to do with Horan.

However Horan moved quickly and they are delighted with how Buckley has slotted in so far.

Apparently he is very hands on sort of trainer, he is practially down in the mud with the players as they go through their winter physical programme.

I would suggest you back up your claims in more detail or stop gossiping like an old woman.

km79

Is there anywhere online to watch today's match ?