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Foreigners working in Ireland-what do you think about irish employers?

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  • #32
    HondaSami
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    sorsha wrote: »
    So, what is your experience. I live and work over 6 years here and I am not sure if I am just not lucky, but every single employer I worked for was selfish, simple minded and greedy person.
    I am very reliable, always punctual, educated person with common sense and always when I stated new job I was full of enthusiasm and commitment -what I got in return - little or no respect, no rise in salary and in general nobody ever appreciated my work and efforts.
    I am just disappointed and bit frustrated at this point.
    Why is it so hard to find fair and good employer here?

    How would you compare it to your own country, what were your bosses like there?
    Do you think Irish bosses treat Irish people better?


  • #33
    sorsha
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    HondaSami wrote: »
    Do you think Irish bosses treat Irish people better?
    No, I don't think so. Maybe once it happened that I should got promoted and someone irish who knew less than me and was sometimes late and not good for the job was,but in general I don't think so.


  • #34
    walrusgumble
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,062 ✭✭✭walrusgumble


    sorsha wrote: »
    So, what is your experience. I live and work over 6 years here and I am not sure if I am just not lucky, but every single employer I worked for was selfish, simple minded and greedy person.

    Ya, they probably are, but, most business people are barely surving , they have plenty of overheads, expensive lifestyles (one must keep up with the Jones' afterall), and, most importantly, they are running a business for profit, they are not running a socialist movement or a charity. The less they have to pay, the bigger they get. They are out for themselves. It just happens that many of them employ Irish people who then get to enjoy a moderate lifestyle via wages.
    sorsha wrote: »
    I am very reliable, always punctual, educated person with common sense and always when I stated new job I was full of enthusiasm and commitment -what I got in return - little or no respect, no rise in salary and in general nobody ever appreciated my work and efforts.

    Again, as you know, it is a business , not a charity. Bonuses are rare, you know this. I am sure, no matter how brilliant you are, these guys think that you (and anyone) is not irreplaceable

    I am sure you understand why many trive to become their own bosses (if they can)
    sorsha wrote: »
    I am just disappointed and bit frustrated at this point.
    Why is it so hard to find fair and good employer here?

    Ah, some are alright, but don't expect much now. Sure aren't we all meant to hate our employers? Avoid Christmas Parties, you really see the really bad side of most of them


  • #35
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    walrusgumble wrote: »
    ..........


    Ah, some are alright, but don't expect much now. Sure aren't we all meant to hate our employers? Avoid Christmas Parties, you really see the really bad side of most of them

    These are words of wisdom. However some places will hold it against you if you avoid the Christmas party.

    (How are we defining "small business" for the purposes of this thread, btw?)


  • #36
    walrusgumble
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,062 ✭✭✭walrusgumble


    sorsha wrote: »
    5 :) (almost 7 years) First one let me go, when I was sick, second let me manage the whole place for minimum wage for almost 2 years - 6days a week, sometimes 12 hours a day and when I said thats it and I gave 2 weeks notice, she is not even saying hello to me when I meet her on the street. Nice :rolleyes:

    Take heed of the wise words of EDDIE Temple (Michael Gambon's Character) In Layer Cake (that film with Daniel Craig, very young Tom Hardy ,Sennia Milner, our own Colm Meaney)

    "You're born, you take ****. You get out in the world, you take more ****. You climb a little higher, you take less ****. Till one day you're up in the rarefied atmosphere and you've forgotten what **** even looks like. Welcome to the layer cake son."


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  • #37
    walrusgumble
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,062 ✭✭✭walrusgumble


    Nodin wrote: »
    These are words of wisdom. However some places will hold it against you if you avoid the Christmas party.

    (How are we defining "small business" for the purposes of this thread, btw?)

    True, but after a few years and kind of being "a law unto oneself" , you really don't give a ****e what the boss thinks, sure it is a few less quid of his bill, hey. Sure thankfully, there is always some birthday, anniversary, funeral (gulp) that crops up.


  • #38
    Gran Hermano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,329 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    OP, I've noticed one constant in your tales of woe; you.

    Whilst it might be easier to keep blaming others and looking for reasons based on gender or nationality the root of your problem may be closer to home.


  • #39
    not yet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Gran Hermano wrote: »
    OP, I've noticed one constant in your tales of woe; you.

    Whilst it might be easier to keep blaming others and looking for reasons based on gender or nationality the root of your problem may be closer to home.

    OMG..........did you just say that.


  • #40
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Gran Hermano wrote: »
    OP, I've noticed one constant in your tales of woe; you.

    Whilst it might be easier to keep blaming others and looking for reasons based on gender or nationality the root of your problem may be closer to home.

    How dare you .


  • #41
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Gran Hermano wrote: »
    OP, I've noticed one constant in your tales of woe; you.

    Whilst it might be easier to keep blaming others and looking for reasons based on gender or nationality the root of your problem may be closer to home.


    Back in central/eastern Europe? Is it Czcibor? I bet it is....shifty lookin shite-hawk like him.


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  • #42
    Gran Hermano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,329 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    not yet wrote: »
    OMG..........did you just say that.

    People get treated according to how they let others treat them.


  • #43
    not yet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Gran Hermano wrote: »
    People get treated according to how they let others treat them.

    Cool your jets I was Kidding.


  • #44
    Forest Demon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 632 ✭✭✭Forest Demon


    Its not just employers. I am finding that other people are a pox


  • #45
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Forest Demon wrote: »
    Its not just employers. I am finding that other people are a pox


    Thats total bollocks.









    You can get a cure for the pox.


  • #46
    sorsha
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    Forest Demon wrote: »
    Its not just employers. I am finding that other people are a pox

    Yes, maybe you are just right. Much to many- simple minded, dull and not very bright. I am simply too good for what I was doing and I was usually surrounded by people less intelligent and less open minded than myself.
    This is it, I was never were I belonged. :(


  • #47
    HondaSami
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    sorsha wrote: »
    No, I don't think so. Maybe once it happened that I should got promoted and someone irish who knew less than me and was sometimes late and not good for the job was,but in general I don't think so.

    It's your opinion you were better for the job, the Irish person might know less and be late a few times but he was probably loyal to his employer and was prepared to give a little more than was necessary.

    You have a very high opinion of yourself and a low opinion of your co workers, not a good quality imo


  • #48
    not yet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    sorsha wrote: »
    Yes, maybe you are just right. Much to many- simple minded, dull and not very bright. I am simply too good for what I was doing and I was usually surrounded by people less intelligent and less open minded than myself.
    This is it, I was never were I belonged. :(

    It's starting to sound like you have a problem with most Irish people employers or not.


  • #49
    sorsha
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    HondaSami wrote: »
    It's your opinion you were better for the job, the Irish person might know less and be late a few times but he was probably loyal to his employer and was prepared to give a little more than was necessary.

    You have a very high opinion of yourself and a low opinion of your co workers, not a good quality imo

    What makes you think I was not loyal and I wouldn't be prepared to "give a little more"?


  • #50
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    sorsha wrote: »
    Yes, maybe you are just right. Much to many- simple minded, dull and not very bright. I am simply too good for what I was doing and I was usually surrounded by people less intelligent and less open minded than myself.
    This is it, I was never were I belonged. :(


    I'm not sure where you belong, with that attitude.


  • #51
    sorsha
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    Nodin wrote: »
    I'm not sure where you belong, with that attitude.

    With what attitude? That is just true, this industry is filled with this kind of people unfortunately -talking more about employers, not coworkers..


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  • #52
    AndyTheDude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭AndyTheDude


    not yet wrote: »
    It's starting to sound like you have a problem with most Irish people employers or not.
    FYP


  • #53
    VEN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭VEN


    sorsha wrote: »
    Yes, maybe you are just right. Much to many- simple minded, dull and not very bright. I am simply too good for what I was doing and I was usually surrounded by people less intelligent and less open minded than myself.
    This is it, I was never were I belonged. :(

    wtf? eh no, i'm not actually surprised, i think i've met you before. GTFO.


  • #54
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,197 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Since I'm qualified to answer the original question, here's an answer: I haven't had any problems once I got used to their management style (which was different to what I was used to).


  • #55
    sorsha
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    VEN wrote: »
    wtf? eh no, i'm not actually surprised, i think i've met you before. GTFO.

    I reported this post.


  • #56
    sorsha
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    Polar101 wrote: »
    Since I'm qualified to answer the original question, here's an answer: I haven't had any problems once I got used to their management style (which was different to what I was used to).

    Management style -you mean, no management? :)


  • #57
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Polar101 wrote: »
    Since I'm qualified to answer the original question, here's an answer: I haven't had any problems once I got used to their management style (which was different to what I was used to).


    I'm a foreign worker too and was in the same boat. Once I knew what was expected of me, I was good to go. Management styles were certainly different.


  • #58
    VEN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭VEN


    sorsha wrote: »
    With what attitude? That is just true, this industry is filled with this kind of people unfortunately -talking more about employers, not coworkers..

    no you're not, you're now trying to pull back on what you just said about the people you worked with, nothing about employers.

    "surrounded by people less intelligent and less open minded than myself"

    get off yer high horse! surrounded by employers? yea right.


  • #59
    sorsha
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    VEN wrote: »
    no you're not, you're now trying to pull back on what you just said about the people you worked with, nothing about employers.

    "surrounded by people less intelligent and less open minded than myself"

    get off yer high horse! surrounded by employers? yea right.

    -maybe because there was so many of them?
    If you write to someone you dont even know GTFO - you are just one of them- simple minded unfortunately.


  • #60
    VEN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭VEN


    sorsha wrote: »
    -maybe because there was so many of them?
    If you write to someone you dont even know GTFO - you are just one of them- simple minded unfortunately.

    you just referred to the people you worked with as "less intelligent and less open minded than myself" :pac: that's simple minded. you get what you deserve.


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  • #61
    HondaSami
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    sorsha wrote: »
    What makes you think I was not loyal and I wouldn't be prepared to "give a little more"?

    ''I am simply too good for what I was doing and I was usually surrounded by people less intelligent and less open minded than myself''.

    This statement says it all really, you are not a team player.


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