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Foreigners working in Ireland-what do you think about irish employers?

  • 28-02-2013 05:43PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭


    So, what is your experience. I live and work over 6 years here and I am not sure if I am just not lucky, but every single employer I worked for was selfish, simple minded and greedy person.
    I am very reliable, always punctual, educated person with common sense and always when I stated new job I was full of enthusiasm and commitment -what I got in return - little or no respect, no rise in salary and in general nobody ever appreciated my work and efforts.
    I am just disappointed and bit frustrated at this point.
    Why is it so hard to find fair and good employer here?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    It's not just foreigners, they treat their Irish staff the same way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Well, if ye were born here ye'd discover much the same, to be honest. There are some good employers out there, of course. I never worked for any of them though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    are you asking the foreigners of AH specifically or am i allowed answer?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    A polish guy i know said he'd work for an Irish employer of a polish employer because they're cunts to work for when the get over here apparently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Whoop diddly whoop, you got a couple of bad employers live with it everyone else does.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    FatherLen wrote: »
    are you asking the foreigners of AH specifically or am i allowed answer?

    Maybe I asked wrong question. It's not just about the foreigners, but everyone.

    -and I am talking mostly about "low pay jobs", my education is not the most practical one, so I was forced to work mostly in places like restaurants/coffee shops.
    All together- a horrible experience which made me dislike people unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭sensormatic


    you should be lucky to have a job in these times,,,,:pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    One more thing - sorry to say this, but especially Irish women are horrible bosses, they really are evil sometimes and its not only that they have treated me badly, but sometimes how they were to new, less experienced people.
    Two times I quit my job, because I was trying to protect someone from simply humiliation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Gyalist


    I am a foreigner working in Ireland and if Carlsberg made employers, my employer would be the best employer in the world.
    This shouldn't really be surprising as I am the employer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,191 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    When I started working at 17 I got some good advice, "leave your feelings at the front door".

    Employers can be grumpy and sometimes shout at their workers, you have to be tough and not let it bother you.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Gyalist wrote: »
    I am a foreigner working in Ireland and if Carling made bosses, my boss would be the best boss in the world.
    This shouldn't really be surprising as I am the boss.
    My boss is better,he's the best AND sexiest boss in the world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    sorsha wrote: »
    Maybe I asked wrong question. It's not just about the foreigners, but everyone.

    -and I am talking mostly about "low pay jobs", my education is not the most practical one, so I was forced to work mostly in places like restaurants/coffee shops.
    All together- a horrible experience which made me dislike people unfortunately.

    Ah, see there's your problem. It's nothing to do with nationalities or being in a different country or anything like that Working in the service industry will just make you think pretty quickly that most people are cnuts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,484 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    How have you been shown a lack of respect? Lots of people aren't getting salary rises.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭Culleeo


    Gyalist wrote: »
    I am a foreigner working in Ireland and if Carling made bosses, my boss would be the best boss in the world.
    This shouldn't really be surprising as I am the boss.

    Carlsberg ;)


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How many jobs have you actually had in six years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 luke87


    worked with lot of irish sub-contractors over the years and some of the foremen were very tough worked you like animals for ****e money some were ok though but a lot of bad ones just my experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭De Hipster


    sorsha wrote: »
    Maybe I asked wrong question. It's not just about the foreigners, but everyone.

    -and I am talking mostly about "low pay jobs", my education is not the most practical one, so I was forced to work mostly in places like restaurants/coffee shops.
    All together- a horrible experience which made me dislike people unfortunately.

    All of your bosses in Ireland have been horrible? Or just all of your Irish bosses specifically?

    Perhaps it's not all the bosses' fault?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭who the fug


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    A polish guy i know said he'd work for an Irish employer of a polish employer because they're cunts to work for when the get over here apparently.

    Very reminiscence of the Irish and Irish subbies in London , they even ranked them by county


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    OP , so far you complained about Irish women bosses , Irish employers and restaurants/coffee shops , anything else ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    I find the generalising and prejudiced show here highly ironic.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    How many jobs have you actually had in six years?

    5 :) (almost 7 years) First one let me go, when I was sick, second let me manage the whole place for minimum wage for almost 2 years - 6days a week, sometimes 12 hours a day and when I said thats it and I gave 2 weeks notice, she is not even saying hello to me when I meet her on the street. Nice :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    This is always going to be an issue with small business. You're being employed directly by the owner, whose primary focus is on his own bottom line.

    Since raising your pay costs him more in tax, then he's not going to increase your pay for doing the same job you were doing last week. If you're great at what you do, then the employer may sweeten your deal a little bit (like an extra 20c per hour), but ultimately from his point of view, if you go somewhere else he'll be able to find someone else to do the same job for the same pay. So there's little incentive for him to throw stuff at you to hold onto you.

    And since it's a small business, then all of the management tasks are usually being taken care of by the owner or a manager underneath him. Which means no matter how great you are, there's no position to promote you to, and no need to promote you.

    Small business owners have it very tough in Ireland. While I'm sure some are just plain mean bastards, many of them are simply trying to make ends meet, so they're not going to throw money at you.

    Really it's easier in larger companies because your manager is going to be less concerned about the bottom line and more concerned about how his reports look. And if you make his reports look good, then he'll give you more money to hang onto you. Larger companies also have a bigger turnover of staff, so more potential for training and promotion.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    mattjack wrote: »
    OP , so far you complained about Irish women bosses , Irish employers and restaurants/coffee shops , anything else ?

    Thats were I used to work and it happens that women were my bosses- one man actually was quite OK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    sorsha wrote: »
    5 :) (almost 7 years) First one let me go, when I was sick, second let me manage the whole place for minimum wage for almost 2 years - 6days a week, sometimes 12 hours a day and when I said thats it and I gave 2 weeks notice, she is not even saying hello to me when I meet her on the street. Nice :rolleyes:
    How many times did you ask for a pay increase?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    seamus wrote: »

    Since raising your pay costs him more in tax, then he's not going to increase your pay for doing the same job you were doing last week. .

    The think is -as I said before I was usually doing more and more and I had more duties every month, so I was never doing exact the same job from the begining to the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    sorsha wrote: »
    Thats were I used to work and it happens that women were my bosses- one man actually was quite OK.

    What's it like back home ? Is every employer friendly , do you get pay rises easily , is it easy to get work ? Is there a minimum wage ?

    Would I be allowed settle there , gain employment , educate my children ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    seamus wrote: »
    How many times did you ask for a pay increase?

    Few times, once I got it. There was something else, twice I couldn't force my employer to pay tax for me and the worse think was there was few more people working full time in that place and 3 or 4 of them were on Job seekers benefits etc (about 200€ monthly) - owner knew it and it was ok with her :rolleyes:.
    One girl told me ,what she got from social is paying her car loan. :pac: shocking
    But thats the different subject..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    mattjack wrote: »
    What's it like back home ? Is every employer friendly , do you get pay rises easily , is it easy to get work ? Is there a minimum wage ?

    Would I be allowed settle there , gain employment , educate my children ?

    Did you mean - go back if you don't like it? :pac:

    It is probably pretty much the same, but I asked other people how is here for them, so it doesnt matter- I live in Ireland now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    sorsha wrote: »
    Did you mean - go back if you don't like it? :pac:

    It is probably pretty much the same, but I asked other people how is here for them, so it doesnt matter- I live in Ireland now.

    Not at all , you know very well if you're here legally you're entitled to be here'
    However you were,nt invited here, you came here by choice most likely to live a better lifestyle.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    mattjack wrote: »
    Not at all , you know very well if you're here legally you're entitled to be here'
    However you were,nt invited here, you came here by choice most likely to live a better lifestyle.

    To be honest if not my husband I am not sure if I would be living a better lifestyle, I am lucky to be free to quit if things are not going right, but what about the people who have no choice.
    It really is horrible how the small business owners are treating their employees -also it is horrible to watch how they run their business.
    No wonder they have to close down so often, they have no clue how to do it properly and instead of beeing smart with their money, they spend it on cars and holidays. Somebody here before said they have to struggle to make any money -from my experience, they usually spend more than they should on stupid things.


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