Holland to ban sale of 'skunk' weed in coffee shops

Skunk is not the strongest there. Meadow Hex left me more f**ked in Dampkring than the Skunk that I got in many of the other coffee shops there.

I've found White Widow to be a much nicer strain than Skunk, and will leave you very mellow for a lot longer.

Boombastic wrote: »

You'll have to get the train. Utrecht is your nearest city that you can buy, €25 for the train. Enjoy!!

@Mikom, Amsterdam isn't in Southern Holland

Cheers Boombastic, I wonder how strict they are on it?

pickarooney wrote: »

I could never see the point of smoking really strong weed in a coffee shop. It just mongs you out completely; there's no social aspect to it.

There's different types of high though. There's a mong you out high and a fairly alert high.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

New strains are constantly being developed to produce the max output of THC

Yes new strains that are all nearly exactly the same. I defy anyone to go to Amsterdam and be able to name weeds based on smoking a spliff of it. They are all slight variations if any variations on each other. Having a newly named plant out every year is mainly a by product of the cannabis cup.

Seed factories have even mastered seeds that will produce just one crop only.

Seed factories are producing seeds that are fragile and need specific conditions to grow properly. There are no super seeds.

In all the stuff is up to 75% more potent than it was 25 years ago.

Nonsense, it's still mostly backroom grows supplying all this weed. They are relieved to get it out the door before it suddenly dies or gets attacked by something.


I don't care if they ban the stronger weeds, most people aren't going to notice the difference. Once it's grown properly it all gets you really stoned.

Boombastic wrote: »

Very, they won't entertain you in the coffee shops in Eindhoven, not even to sit in and smoke a joint if you already have weed. You'll be asked to leave as soon as they get the wiff of foreigner off you

Ha that answers that so, Utrecht it is:D

I did mention in passing that I live in Utrecht during a discussion with the server about a mutual friend. But they didn't ask me for any ID at all, and they were only hitting up younger people for ID.

I'm finding mixed information too when googling about.

De Bakkerij is nice, the coffeeshops here in Utrecht are pretty grim so I couldn't hand on heart recommend them. Andersom in the city centre only sells 4 strains of weed, for example. None of them seem that pleasant to hang around in at all, but I'm an in-and-out person anyway, I'd rather smoke at home. My local shop only sold to take away but it had to close last year due to being caught with more than the allowed amount. Pink in Eindhoven had to close the previous year for the same reason.

Which reminds me, there's cannabis taxi delivery services available. I don't know where you'd get the number for the Eindhoven ones but someone spraypainted the number for one in Utrecht on the wall of the closed shop.

ScumLord wrote: »

There's different types of high though. There's a mong you out high and a fairly alert high.

I think you're referring to the difference between Sativa and Indica

ScumLord wrote: »

Yes new strains that are all nearly exactly the same. I defy anyone to go to Amsterdam and be able to name weeds based on smoking a spliff of it. They are all slight variations if any variations on each other. Having a newly named plant out every year is mainly a by product of the cannabis cup.

There are huge perceptible differences between the really good strains of weed, e.g. NYC Diesel tastes like grapefruit

ScumLord wrote: »

Seed factories are producing seeds that are fragile and need specific conditions to grow properly. There are no super seeds.

Wrong, have you ever grown your own, or are you relying on anecdotal evidence, again?

ScumLord wrote: »

Nonsense, it's still mostly backroom grows supplying all this weed. They are relieved to get it out the door before it suddenly dies or gets attacked by something.

I'm pretty sure that coffeeshops rely on something a bit better than what a teenager can grow in a closet, they have big commercial grow operations in Holland who take their business, and growing, seriously

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't care if they ban the stronger weeds, most people aren't going to notice the difference. Once it's grown properly it all gets you really stoned.

Gets YOU really stoned

It's considered pretty impolite. Standing on a corner skinning up and smoking is the social equivalent of swigging vodka from a paper bag. Bringing them ready rolled and smoking while walking down the street, most people won't notice or care, really.

Mr. Nice wrote: »

There are huge perceptible differences between the really good strains of weed, e.g. NYC Diesel tastes like grapefruit

Yes, that's a huge difference. This one tastes like beer, this one tastes like grapefruit. Whatever will they think of next?

Wrong, have you ever grown your own, or are you relying on anecdotal evidence, again?

Again? You know what they say about assumptions?

I'm pretty sure that coffeeshops rely on something a bit better than what a teenager can grow in a closet, they have big commercial grow operations in Holland who take their business, and growing, seriously

They don't have big commercial grows because it's illegal to grow it at that scale. People are allowed a certain amount of plants for their own personal consumption and that's where they get their weed from. While large grows probably happen they are illegal and will eventually get shut down whereas they can just buy weed off the hundreds of people growing it with next to no risk.

Gets YOU really stoned

Yes it does, and that's all that matters.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

all these potent strains are seriously genetically modified and cannot be that good for you.

oh dear...

After that doozie you went on to thank this post below, I presume you didn't even cop on that he was sarcastically mocking this GM nonsense.

mikom wrote: »

Auto flowering................... like mating a non photo-period ruderalis strain to a sativa/indica, so that the offspring flowers due to its maturity instead of just reacting to the length of daylight.


Female seeds created by stressing a female cannabis plant to the point that it becomes hermaphrodite plant, and then using the pollen from its male flowers on another female.

Serious genetic modification there folks.

These are techniques used for hundreds of years by nurserymen, on any and all plants.

What's next.......... the dangers of grafting?

pickarooney wrote: »

I could never see the point of smoking really strong weed in a coffee shop. It just mongs you out completely; there's no social aspect to it.

Many do it for health reasons, and it can be cheaper "per unit THC". Its not really much different than having strong beer or spirits in pubs. If you know your drinking whiskey or 9% beer or wine then you do not drink your usual 8 pints of it.

It is healthier as you are inhaling less smoke to get the same high. So they are really doing the exact opposite of has been going on with light cigarettes, they have less nicotine & tar but people end up smoking more and/or inhaling deeper & longer so they end up worse for you.

Many will go for super strong hash or oil products for health reasons too.

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

I have a mate who's quite the botanist when it comes to this stuff, I think he is speaking the truth. Feminised seeds are dearer but you can buy them, and they seem to produce stronger and stronger strains. It's like inhaling an instant panic attack these days, some of the stuff.

What exactly did your "botanist mate speak the truth about", the poster you quoted was specifically referring to this GM claim. Which is nonsense. You can buy feminized hop seeds too, OH NO whats in my beer :rolleyes:

pickarooney wrote: »

I could never see the point of smoking really strong weed in a coffee shop. It just mongs you out completely; there's no social aspect to it.

To be fair, it depends on how much you smoke on a regular basis. I read a book which compared the amount consumed by a stoner in Jamaica and one in europe. The Jamaican smokes enough in a day to last the European two weeks.

That skunk would get me spanged of my ****ing cube. I wouldn't be able to talk, walk or perform most higher level functions. But their regulars would be able to handle it.