UK teen commits suicide after being brought to court over 50p of cannabis

juice1304 · 24-02-2013 12:11AM

Big Bottom wrote: »

Weed turns people into paranoid losers who think they are cool.
Its also very dangerous for mental health, especially young kids.
It should stay banned.

Back up your statement with scientific proof and not a newspaper article. Research papers from people who spend their lives researching this topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwJ87LEsoec

dickwod1 · 24-02-2013 12:11AM

E.S.T. wrote: »

You could of getting it for free from a friend who brought it to your house.

Happy days

E.S.T. wrote: »

Adults typically have cars, apartments, etc. They don't have to hang around alleyways.

Ok like yeah drug dealer call over to me and ill show you all the nice stuff i have in my house oh and btw i work mon-fri 9-5 the alarm code is ...

E.S.T. · 24-02-2013 12:12AM

dickwod1 wrote: »

Like I wonder how many people are actually drinking alcohol right now while reading this
It's ok for one drug that killls, costs billions in policing, a&e and long term illness and addiction - but are still anti weed

So because one legal drug already causes lots of problems that means we should legalize another drug?

Wabbit Ears · 24-02-2013 12:12AM

TBH the only thing that surprises me is that his lawyer sucked so much that the kid got a conviction.

dickwod1 · 24-02-2013 12:14AM

E.S.T. wrote: »

So because one legal drug already causes lots of problems that means we should legalize another drug?

Yeah obv ... why not?

E.S.T. · 24-02-2013 12:15AM

dickwod1 wrote: »

Happy days

Ok like yeah drug dealer call over to me and ill show you all the nice stuff i have in my house oh and btw i work mon-fri 9-5 the alarm code is ...

Yea it would be really dangerous to show a person who makes lots of easy money your apartment. Also weed dealers are not exactly gun carrying crack dealers.

Big Bottom · 24-02-2013 12:16AM

juice1304 wrote: »

Back up your statement with scientific proof and not a newspaper article. Research papers from people who spend their lives researching this topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwJ87LEsoec

I have first hand experience of this topic sunshine, I'm not basing anything on hat article.

dickwod1 · 24-02-2013 12:17AM

E.S.T. wrote: »

Yea it would be really dangerous to show a person who makes lots of easy money your apartment. Also weed dealers are not exactly gun carrying crack dealers.

Really dangerous to interact with them full stop legalize it - end of.
And as mentioned earlier on there not just weed dealers.

juice1304 · 24-02-2013 12:18AM

E.S.T. wrote: »

So because one legal drug already causes lots of problems that means we should legalize another drug?

So because someone decides to use another drug instead of alcohol it is ok to convict them of a crime and label them a criminal?
Is there still cannabis and more harmful hard drugs easily available even though they are banned? Yes
And remember alcohol is considered a hard drug too you can't die from smoking too much cannabis, It is easy to die from alcohol poisoning though. you also can't become physical addicted to it either or have withdrawal symptoms because it binds to fat cells and is released slowly into the body over the course of a month after the person has last smoked it.

120_Minutes · 24-02-2013 12:19AM

Big Bottom wrote: »

Alcohol turns people into argumentative, violent pricks who think they are cool.
Its also very dangerous for mental health, and physical health, especially young kids.
It should be regulated

fixed your post.

juice1304 · 24-02-2013 12:21AM

Big Bottom wrote: »

I have first hand experience of this topic sunshine, I'm not basing anything on hat article.

Cannabis dose'nt cause mental illness it can exacerbate a pre-existing illness in very rare cases. Should all law be based on the perceived first hand experience of one person?

Big Bottom · 24-02-2013 12:23AM

120_Minutes wrote: »

fixed your post.

You changed my post, not fixed it.

Were not talking about alcohol here smarty pants.

BTW, my father is an alcoholic so I don't need any advise on that thanks.

OctavarIan · 24-02-2013 12:25AM

Typical that this thread would get completely derailed.

As bad as I feel for the kid's family, the policeman who made the clerical error must feel like absolute dirt. He can't have known, but still that's going to haunt him.

120_Minutes · 24-02-2013 12:25AM

Nice to see this thread going the way of all the other past weed threads.

the anti weed brigade wont listen to reason here, guys. stop wasting your time.

dickwod1 · 24-02-2013 12:26AM

My mate can get some aluminium tubing and put it together on the side of a mountain strap some vinyl around it and jump off (in his hand glider) crash get a helicopter to rescue him transport him to a hospital and have 12 staff look after him for 12 weeks - I sit on a mountain and light a spliff and I'm a criminal.

catallus · 24-02-2013 12:26AM

Juice, you can go and do all your own research, thanks. Cannabis fcuks up peoples' brains. It's several times more carcinogenic than tobacco and anyone who tells you otherwise is lying. You obviously have your own mind made up about the issue; my advice is to get off drugs for a few months, let the fog rise and the scales fall from your eyes. Saying that it is a "choice" to take mind-bending drugs and ignoring any other argument is a bit of a cop-out: with any luck you'll someday learn that there is more to life and your place in it than insisting that you should be allowed to wire yourself to the moon and seek false illumination from drugs. Your choices have effects on those around you. Instead of talking about your rights, try thinking about your responsibilities.

Chuck Stone · 24-02-2013 12:26AM

Big Bottom wrote: »

Weed turns people into paranoid losers who think they are cool.

Like Barrack O' Bama?

Its also very dangerous for mental health, especially young kids.

Yes. Everybody who supports ending the prohibition of weed wants to see children smoking it.

E.S.T. · 24-02-2013 12:27AM

juice1304 wrote: »

So because someone decides to use another drug instead of alcohol it is ok to convict them of a crime and label them a criminal?
Is there still cannabis and more harmful hard drugs easily available even though they are banned? Yes
And remember alcohol is considered a hard drug too you can't die from smoking too much cannabis, It is easy to die from alcohol poisoning though. you also can't become physical addicted to it either or have withdrawal symptoms because it binds to fat cells and is released slowly into the body over the course of a month after the person has last smoked it.

Last time I looked it was less than 50 people a year in the US die from alcohol poisoning each year. Also perceived risk plays in a role in the use of drugs and even if drugs are already widely available, illegality helps to increase the perceived risk of that substance and helps to keep usage down. That is one of the hypothesis of the reason that decriminalization of marijuana in the US has not led to greater usage because people already knew that the risks of getting caught with marijuana are minor.

Big Bottom · 24-02-2013 12:27AM

120_Minutes wrote: »

Nice to see this thread going the way of all the other past weed threads.

the anti weed brigade wont listen to reason here, guys. stop wasting your time.

Thats rich from you changing peoples posts to derail the argument.

120_Minutes · 24-02-2013 12:28AM

Big Bottom wrote: »

You changed my post, not fixed it.

Were not talking about alcohol here smarty pants.

BTW, my father is an alcoholic so I don't need any advise on that thanks.

but by your logic, anyone who smokes weed is a "paranoid loser" (which you posted earlier) so by extension of that same logic.... isnt everyone who drinks an alcoholic?

see my point?

dickwod1 · 24-02-2013 12:28AM

catallus wrote: »

Juice, you can go and do all your own research, thanks. Cannabis fcuks up peoples' brains. It's several times more carcinogenic than tobacco and anyone who tells you otherwise is lying. You obviously have your own mind made up about the issue; my advice is to get off drugs for a few months, let the fog rise and the scales fall from your eyes. Saying that it is a "choice" to take mind-bending drugs and ignoring any other argument is a bit of a cop-out: with any luck you'll someday learn that there is more to life and your place in it than insisting that you should be allowed to wire yourself to the moon and seek false illumination from drugs. Your choices have effects on those around you. Instead of talking about your rights, try thinking about your responsibilities.

preach preach preach

catallus · 24-02-2013 12:29AM

And another thing, I hear an awful lot of nonsense about weed or hash not leading to violent behaviour. Try telling that to the families who have to deal with the mood swings of a regular smoker who has decided they're off it for the week.

dickwod1 · 24-02-2013 12:30AM

E.S.T. wrote: »

Last time I looked it was less than 50 people a year in the US die from alcohol poisoning each year. Also perceived risk plays in a role in the use of drugs and even if drugs are already widely available, illegality helps to increase the perceived risk of that substance and helps to keep usage down. That is one of the hypothesis of the reason that decriminalization of marijuana in the US has not led to greater usage because people already knew that the risks of getting caught with marijuana are minor.

Again with the US

FYI were in Ireland

E.S.T. · 24-02-2013 12:30AM

dickwod1 wrote: »

Again with the US

FYI were in Ireland

Good for you, I am not.

Big Bottom · 24-02-2013 12:31AM

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Like Barrack O' Bama?

Yes. Everybody who supports ending the prohibition of weed wants to see children smoking it.

Barack O'Bama? Haha, is he a poster boy for weed now? Get real for god sake.

dickwod1 · 24-02-2013 12:31AM

catallus wrote: »

And another thing, I hear an awful lot of nonsense about weed or hash not leading to violent behaviour. Try telling that to the families who have to deal with the mood swings of a regular smoker who has decided they're off it for the week.

Yep cos people who give up booze/cigarettes are never narky :rolleyes:

dickwod1 · 24-02-2013 12:33AM

E.S.T. wrote: »

Good for you, I am not.

Well thats where your going wrong my friend as said earlier US stats dont mean a thing over here

120_Minutes · 24-02-2013 12:33AM

catallus wrote: »

And another thing, I hear an awful lot of nonsense about weed or hash not leading to violent behaviour. Try telling that to the families who have to deal with the mood swings of a regular smoker who has decided they're off it for the week.

I'm a regular smoker, i've been off it 3 weeks. my mood hasnt changed. oh and with reference to your frankly ignorant earlier post. i chose to smoke weed, and i chose to stop......see that... a choice.

HondaSami · 24-02-2013 12:33AM

OctavarIan wrote: »

Typical that this thread would get completely derailed.

As bad as I feel for the kid's family, the policeman who made the clerical error must feel like absolute dirt. He can't have known, but still that's going to haunt him.

I don't get this, the policeman did his job and we do not know this is the reason the kid killed himself, it might be one of the reasons but not the only reason.
All this blaming the cop is taking the blame away from the kid who made the decision to kill himself over something he could probably have sorted out if he told his parents.

E.S.T. · 24-02-2013 12:34AM

dickwod1 wrote: »

Well thats where your going wrong my friend as said earlier US stats dont mean a thing over here

The majority of research into marijuana use is in the US.

UK teen commits suicide after being brought to court over 50p of cannabis

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