Green Island my arse.

goose2005 · 18-02-2013 12:45PM

padma wrote: »

One of the shames of colonialism stripping the land of it's natural resources I'm afraid. A lot of Britains navy was built with Irish wood.

Yeah, if only we had 91 years of independence over which we could have rejuvenated our forests. That, or throw up a few foreign conifers and call it a day.

bizmark wrote: »

Yet another person telling ireland it should be ashamed of something :yay:

Well, we should be. It's an ugly country because we don't care about maintaining or improving it.

starlings · 18-02-2013 01:00PM

mawk wrote: »

There are a **** load of trees in cork city. Climb up somewhere high and look down and look down on the city. Its mad arbourescent

arbourescent

I read that in a hilly Cork accent. Now I'm as happy as a tree.

Andy-Pandy · 18-02-2013 01:10PM

crockholm wrote: »

I don't think it was much to do with the Armada,as that battle was won by sending burning ships laden with explosives towards the spanish ships,which were set out in a line in order to transport their continental force in flanders to england, but said tactic and inclement weather proved disasterous.

Ireland lost it's forest cover in the centuries after,much of it in the form of charcoal iirc

It is what our oak forests where chopped down for unfortunately.

http://www.woodlandleague.org/documents/A%20request%20to%20the%20Queen%20of%20England%20regarding%20restoration%20of%20Ireland's%20Forests.pdf

Bit of info on it above.

starlings · 18-02-2013 02:43PM

You know, history of our woodlands aside, I have never heard Ireland called a "Green Island." That would be Greenland, which is covered in ice (whereas Iceland is mostly green). Emerald Isle is a sentimental old pet name. I'm looking forward to when the bluebells come out in the islands of green within our land - the shoots are up already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSS9PnU6T8s

Cienciano · 18-02-2013 02:45PM

"Green island" is slang for fist.
PM me op

Green Diesel · 18-02-2013 02:49PM

It's pretty green in fairness

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Ireland_from_space_edit.jpg

Madam · 18-02-2013 03:32PM

Maybe the OP lives in a bog

Conmaicne Mara · 18-02-2013 03:37PM

AndyTheDude wrote: »

You should be ashamed of yourselves. :mad:

:rolleyes:

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

mikom · 18-02-2013 03:40PM

AndyTheDude wrote: »

Where are the trees? What has happened here?
No wonder this island is green all year long, the grass doesn't get yellow/red/brown as the seasons change... No trees in cities/towns. Only meadows in the countryside. Very few forests around.
I am missing trees big time.
I watched my neighbor cutting a tree off in his backyard today, I asked why he's doing it, he said that it "blocked the sun".
Have you chopped all the trees off for kindling or what?
You should be ashamed of yourselves. :mad:

Moss and algae not good enough for ya?

crockholm · 18-02-2013 03:59PM

Though it brings a tear to my eye to say it,I feel the state should get more involved in the planting of more broadleaves. the beech ,though not native, is becoming a rarer sight,i've not seen a beech sapling in a long time. Whereas our weather conditions facilitate the quick groth of conifers,the quality is much less than what comes from scandanavia,which have much greater forests and much more efficient logging.
It just seems to be a very myopic(and Irish) way of looking at it,but people want quick results,in this country we don't use trees as water absorbers either,overall im not confident about it changing any time soon either.

starlings · 18-02-2013 04:13PM

crockholm wrote: »

Though it brings a tear to my eye to say it,I feel the state should get more involved in the planting of more broadleaves. the beech ,though not native, is becoming a rarer sight,i've not seen a beech sapling in a long time. Whereas our weather conditions facilitate the quick groth of conifers,the quality is much less than what comes from scandanavia,which have much greater forests and much more efficient logging.
It just seems to be a very myopic(and Irish) way of looking at it,but people want quick results,in this country we don't use trees as water absorbers either,overall im not confident about it changing any time soon either.

If you want native, quick, and water-absorbing deciduous trees, most types of willow are ideal. The wood is handy for fuel and wicker and it grows like a weed. I don't know why we don't farm it more.

As for beech becoming rare - I'm too young (in tree-ring years

) to remember Dutch Elm, so I'm a bit anxious about Ash dieback. I'd hate to lose those feathery-leaved hurley trees.

bizmark · 18-02-2013 04:18PM

goose2005 wrote: »

Well, we should be. It's an ugly country because we don't care about maintaining or improving it.

Have you left your little bubble in ireland or have you traveled the country and seen the many many beautiful sights it has to offer? go to kinsale or Kerry and tell me this country is "ugly".

crockholm · 18-02-2013 04:19PM

starlings wrote: »

If you want native, quick, and water-absorbing deciduous trees, most types of willow are ideal. The wood is handy for fuel and wicker and it grows like a weed. I don't know why we don't farm it more.

As for beech becoming rare - I'm too young (in tree-ring years ) to remember Dutch Elm, so I'm a bit anxious about Ash dieback. I'd hate to lose those feathery-leaved hurley trees.

Exactly,willow and eucalyptus soak up massive amounts of water and willow is used in wooden pellet production,but hey, better to pay a lad to do nothing with the land so he can plant his arse on a bar stool and soak up guinness and CAP funding all day. Oak can soak 250 L on a warm day.

mike65 · 18-02-2013 04:22PM

crockholm wrote: »

Though it brings a tear to my eye to say it,I feel the state should get more involved in the planting of more broadleaves. the beech ,though not native, is becoming a rarer sight,i've not seen a beech sapling in a long time. Whereas our weather conditions facilitate the quick groth of conifers,the quality is much less than what comes from scandanavia,which have much greater forests and much more efficient logging.
It just seems to be a very myopic(and Irish) way of looking at it,but people want quick results,in this country we don't use trees as water absorbers either,overall im not confident about it changing any time soon either.

The fact nearly a century has passed and Coillte (plus its predecessors) have the square root of feck all to show for their work tells us everything about the dead hand of the state. Forestry is multi faceted, a vital habitat, a renewable source of fuel, a recreation facility and yet they grow nasty "pulping material" instead.

starlings · 18-02-2013 04:26PM

mike65 wrote: »

The fact nearly a century has passed and Coillte (plus its predecessors) have the square root of feck all to show for their work tells us everything about the dead hand of the state. Forestry is multi faceted, a vital habitat, a renewable source of fuel, a recreation facility and yet they grow nasty "pulping material" instead.

and sold public land out from under us. :mad:

seven_eleven · 18-02-2013 04:40PM

yeah! and whats up with Greenland! :pac:

crockholm · 18-02-2013 04:43PM

How could it be any other way? There really is no "big picture" here. How could someone claim kudos for something he won't see down the line ? Quick and cheap is the mantra,doesn't matter if we're just producing pulp or acidifying the rivers, what counts is that our forestry quango will be able to bring out a report claiming record afforestation,thats all

Chinasea · 18-02-2013 07:41PM

crockholm wrote: »

How could it be any other way? There really is no "big picture" here. How could someone claim kudos for something he won't see down the line ? Quick and cheap is the mantra,doesn't matter if we're just producing pulp or acidifying the rivers, what counts is that our forestry quango will be able to bring out a report claiming record afforestation,thats all

Sadly so true.

Green Island my arse.

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