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Daniel Day-Lewis: Irish or English??

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  • #32
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    rox5 wrote: »
    Are you serious?

    No , I think he's chughes


  • #33
    Creasy_bear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    Aryanna Loose Public wrote: »

    It kind of does...
    He has a British passport too.

    He's English.


  • #34
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    rox5 wrote: »
    Daniel Day-Lewis: Irish or English??

    Why don't you ask him OP? I have no doubt he'll tell you he's Irish btw.

    Actor losses Oscar race - Sky News report that Irish actor fails in oscar bid.

    Actor wins an Oscar - Sky News report that a brit has won the oscar.


  • #35
    sully2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭sully2010


    Creasy_bear wrote: »
    Exactly, each to there own. I like Penn, Norton, Washington. Not people who just seem to use the same facial expressions in every movie.

    Fair enough, those 3 are also excellent actors, what do you not like about Day Lewis and Pacino?


  • #36
    rox5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭rox5


    Where To wrote: »
    Are you saying he's Irish or English OP?

    I agree/disagree with you entirely

    As I said in my post I consider him to be an Englishman. I just put my heading up like that as it is an actual question people keep asking these days.


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  • #37
    Mardy Bum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    What is it to be Irish anyway?

    Do you have to be born here? What if you move the very next day?

    If you live in Australia for twenty years are you still Irish?

    Conversely if you move to Ireland do you become Irish?

    Do you have to like certain things to be considered Irish?

    What makes something Irish?

    Is it just a piece of paper from the state declaring your Irishness that makes you Irish? Whats Irishness?

    Are unionist from the Republic of Ireland Irish?
    –A nation? says Bloom. A nation is the same people living in the same place.
    –By God, then, says Ned, laughing, if that’s so I’m a nation for I’m living in the same place for the past five years.
    So of course everyone had a laugh at Bloom and says he, trying to muck out of it:
    –Or also living in different places.
    James Joyce, Ulysses


  • #38
    [Deleted User]
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    Does it matter? He's among the best actors of the 21st century.


  • #39
    hames
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭hames


    Would it make you feel better about yourself if he said he is Irish?

    Would it make you feel worse about yourself if he said he is British?

    If you answered yes to one of these questions please STFU!


  • #40
    rox5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭rox5


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Does it matter? He's among the best actors of the 21st century.

    No I agree, it should not matter at all. It just annoys me how nations are claiming celebs as their own because of roots, and it is just coming across as childish and annoying.


  • #41
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,219 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Mardy Bum wrote: »
    What is it to be Irish anyway?

    Do you have to be born here? What if you move the very next day?

    If you live in Australia for twenty years are you still Irish?

    Conversely if you move to Ireland do you become Irish?

    Do you have to like certain things to be considered Irish?

    What makes something Irish?

    Is it just a piece of paper from the state declaring your Irishness that makes you Irish? Whats Irishness?

    Are unionist from the Republic of Ireland Irish?


    If you are born here then yes you are Irish, if you move here no you are not Irish,just my opinion though.

    Unionists born in the South are Irish whether they like it or not.


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  • #42
    Creasy_bear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    T-K-O wrote: »

    The fact you mention DDL in the same breath as Pacino renders this post insane.

    You mean 7 time oscar nominated Al Pacino?


  • #43
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,577 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Does it really matter? Day-Lewis is a great actor and has played many great Irish roles. His nationality shouldn't be an issue.


  • #44
    4zn76tysfajdxp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Creasy_bear wrote: »
    He has a British passport too.

    He English.

    A dual-national then. Fair play to him.


  • #45
    barone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭barone


    guiseppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee man, they fckin killed guiseppe man


  • #46
    seenitall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭seenitall


    "I knew Daniel before he was Irish".
    Stephen Frears
    ~~~

    "I never knew Frears before he was a facetious slob."
    Daniel Day-Lewis


  • #47
    mattjack
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    If you are born here then yes you are Irish, if you move here no you are not Irish,just my opinion though.

    Unionists born in the South are Irish whether they like it or not.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/4000-people-from-110-countries-delighted-to-receive-irish-citizenship-26864993.html.

    Look at all these crazy folk.


  • #48
    Mardy Bum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    If you are born here then yes you are Irish, if you move here no you are not Irish,just my opinion though.

    Unionists born in the South are Irish whether they like it or not.

    What if you move the next day and never set foot in the country again.

    What if you refuse to read any Joyce, Beckett or Yeats or even worse never watch Mrs Browns Boys? Basically having zero cultural knowledge about the country.

    What if you decide you are not Irish despite having a passport allowing you citizenship. Are you still Irish because you were born in a hospital here some years previous but never set foot in the place again.

    Really I'm highlighting the inherent problem with the idea claiming nationality for oneself.


  • #49
    clairefontaine
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    It's not up to anyone here to decide what or whom he is. HE gets to decide that.

    No one has the right to tell you what your essence is.

    Does it really matter whether he is Irish or English?


  • #50
    Creasy_bear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Creasy_bear


    clairefontaine wrote: »
    It's not up to anyone here to decide what or whom he is. HE gets to decide that.

    No one has the right to tell you what your essence is.

    Does it really matter whether he is Irish or English?

    Obviously to some people it does. I'd say if he saw this thread he'd piss himself laughing.


  • #51
    rolliepoley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,871 ✭✭✭rolliepoley


    You are you from the place of birth and nobody can change that.


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  • #52
    mathepac
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭mathepac


    If Danny Day-O'Luas is anything he's Welsh. I have Welsh ancestors and they are the same ancestors that Danny Day-O'Luas has. I have Welsh ancestors on one side of my family tree, he has them on both. Therefore if I'm Irish he must not be Greek. Simplez - but we are related, joined by a meerkat.


  • #53
    3rdDegree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭3rdDegree


    Daniel Day-Lewis is British of course. He happens to live in and love Ireland. I think that's great. We Irish are far too insecure about our nationality.


  • #54
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,219 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Mardy Bum wrote: »
    What if you move the next day and never set foot in the country again.

    What if you refuse to read any Joyce, Beckett or Yeats or even worse never watch Mrs Browns Boys? Basically having zero cultural knowledge about the country.

    What if you decide you are not Irish despite having a passport allowing you citizenship. Are you still Irish because you were born in a hospital here some years previous but never set foot in the place again.

    Really I'm highlighting the inherent problem with the idea claiming nationality for oneself.

    You seem to be worrying a lot over this, has someone called you Irish and you aren't happy about it?


  • #55
    Mardy Bum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    You seem to be worrying a lot over this, has someone called you Irish and you aren't happy about it?

    Just posing questions to highlight the ridiculous nature of the thread and the idea in general. ;)


  • #56
    MadsL
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    If you are born here then yes you are Irish, if you move here no you are not Irish,just my opinion though.

    Unionists born in the South are Irish whether they like it or not.
    rolliepoley wrote: »
    You are you from the place of birth and nobody can change that.

    No-one here remember a referendum on this? If you are Irish and born here, you are Irish. If Mammy and Daddy ain't Irish, 'taint necessarily so.

    Besides, we are still tying to decide if Des Bishop is Irish, give us a minute will ya.


  • #57
    Napper Hawkins
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    ****ing so the **** what whatever he is or claims to be. It doesn't matter.


  • #58
    gallag
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭gallag


    I am mabey cynical but reading his wiki there and cant help think his irish citizenship is tax related.


  • #59
    blade1
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    If you are born here then yes you are Irish, if you move here no you are not Irish,just my opinion though.

    Unionists born in the South are Irish whether they like it or not.
    What if your mother was on holidays in Jamaica when u were Born?
    Would that make you a Rasta?


  • #60
    dd972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    Creasy_bear wrote: »
    . Just because he has an Irish passport, it doesn't make him Irish.


    Errm..... I think you find it does, regardless of his birthplace, accent or background, an Irish national is an Irish national, end of.

    Just like if your parents moved to Shanghai before you were born and you popped out there, what you'd see in the mirror wouldn't be a Chinese person.

    The whole Irish / not Irish argument is grounded in the ridiculous theory that having an Irish accent or Birth cert makes you somehow wittier, earthier and more authentic, like that load of f---ing drivel Dara Stage Oirish O'Brien comes out with about ''I will love my English child, yadda, yadda, ( listen to my brogue and fawn and jizz yourself, aren't I wacky and whimsical !, what am I like !, must be cos' oim Oirish )

    There's loads of Poles born in Germany, loads of Chinese born in England, loads of French born people of Italian and Spanish parentage, yet I've never heard anyone go on about this like the Irish.


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  • #61
    pebbles21
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    Reeesppeecctt fo fo for daaaaa!
    *slurps pint from a straw*


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