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Irish obsession with English soccer

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  • #32
    dan1895
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    Mr Whirly wrote: »
    I'm assuming the op wrote his post on his Irish made laptop, drank Irish beer in his local, drives an Irish car, only listens to Irish bands etc etc...

    People can consume whatever entertainment they want. It's ridiculous to say you can't be a fan of something because it's not irish

    You obviously are unfamiliar with the concept of supporting a sports team.


  • #33
    twinQuins
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭twinQuins


    7 7 12 wrote: »
    So I was out earlier in the local , not being a football I didn't realize [...]

    Perfect chance to derail the thread missed. I guess you could say you guys really dropped the ball on this one!

    No? Fine, I'll get my coat...


  • #34
    uch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭uch


    7 7 12 wrote: »
    No ,, LISTEN TO ME!

    I have no problem with these people liking Manchester United, but their hatred for the English soccer team while supporting an English soccer team doesn't add up... you can't argue with that one

    I think you'll find quite a few that will argue that one with you,,, not me, but go figure

    22/25



  • #35
    hunter164
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭hunter164


    orestes wrote: »
    The premier league is the most watched football league in the world.

    Are we just supposed to hate anything and everything just because it's English?

    The point he's making is why are they cheering on lads one week and then the next week booing them because they're in an England jersey? Where's the logic in that? To them it's fine to go around in a jersey from an English team but at the same time they the English team.


  • #36
    7 7 12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭7 7 12


    hunter164 wrote: »
    The point he's making is why are they cheering on lads one week and then the next week booing them because they're in an England jersey? Where's the logic in that? To them it's fine to go around in a jersey from an English team but at the same time they the English team.

    Yes that's not what I was originally getting at but is my main point now ...


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  • #37
    The Gibzilla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭The Gibzilla


    7 7 12 wrote: »
    No ,, LISTEN TO ME!

    I have no problem with these people liking Manchester United, but their hatred for the English soccer team while supporting an English soccer team doesn't add up... you can't argue with that one

    They are usually staunch nationalists too

    I think you'll find you can. The English team consistently under perform and are over-hyped by the English media when any major international tournament arises which can be quite irritating and frustrating for many football/soccer fans.


  • #38
    Mr Whirly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Mr Whirly


    7 7 12 wrote: »
    Yes but I don't drink French beer and then go on the warpath about how much I hate French beer.

    That would be mental alright.

    It doesn't really apply to your argument though.


  • #39
    orestes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    dan1895 wrote: »
    Your not supposed to hate it but why would you support it?

    I find it entertaining and enjoy it, so why shouldn't I?
    7 7 12 wrote: »
    No ,, LISTEN TO ME!

    I have no problem with these people liking Manchester United, but their hatred for the English soccer team while supporting an English soccer team doesn't add up... you can't argue with that one

    OK THEN!!2121!!

    Because the English national team is a representation of the English nation, which some people have a lot of issue with due to the history between England and Ireland as nations, added to the problems caused by English fans tearing apart the Irish national football stadium a while back still being a sore point with Irish fans when it comes to international games.

    The premier league isn't a national institution, it's a collection of teams based in England, where not all of the players and not even all of the teams are English.


  • #40
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    It's a game of tree turds.


  • #41
    Mr Whirly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Mr Whirly


    dan1895 wrote: »
    You obviously are unfamiliar with the concept of supporting a sports team.

    How so?


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  • #42
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Mr Whirly wrote: »
    I'm assuming the op wrote his post on his Irish made laptop, drank Irish beer in his local, drives an Irish car, only listens to Irish bands etc etc...

    People can consume whatever entertainment they want. It's ridiculous to say you can't be a fan of something because it's not irish

    That doesn't explain why the very same people don't opt to support Spain or Engkand or the ones that also support GAA don't all just support Kilrenny.


  • #43
    7 7 12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭7 7 12


    orestes wrote: »
    I find it entertaining and enjoy it, so why shouldn't I?



    OK THEN!!2121!!

    Because the English national team is a representation of the English nation, which some people have a lot of issue with due to the history between England and Ireland as nations.

    Ok now we are getting somewhere (an intelligent argument on after hours what's going on!!) If these people feel so strongly about the history between Ireland and England - why do they devote such a large proportion of their time/money/etc to what are essentially English (or British) teams? There's only so much you can disassociate "Manchester United" from "Manchester" before it starts getting ridiculous.


  • #44
    dan1895
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    Mr Whirly wrote: »
    How so?

    Laptop manufacturers and car manufacturers are not the same as a local sports club. Comparing them as you have done is idiocy trying to defend an idiotic point of view that just so happens to be held by the idiotic majority of football "fans" in this country.


  • #45
    allthedoyles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,891 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    do you watch Sky News ....They never talk about Irish News

    Ever shopped in Dixons, Next, Debenhams, Topshop, Boots, Superdrug, Argos, hmv, JJB sports, Dorothy Perkins, Maplin, Currys, T.K. Maxx, PC World, Game Stop

    They are all British .


  • #46
    deisedave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    7 7 12 wrote: »
    Yes that's not what I was originally getting at but is my main point now ...

    This thread has been done to death and I would not be surprised if you got the idea for this thread by reading boards previously. But football is about having fun Manchester fans hate Liverpool fans but not really, same with international football the Irish fans want to see England destroyed but all in good fun.


  • #47
    7 7 12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭7 7 12


    anncoates wrote: »
    That doesn't explain why the very same people don't opt to support Spain or Engkand or the ones that also support GAA don't all just support Kilrenny.

    Exactly, despite having brilliant clubs of just as good skill levels (from what I've heard I don't watch soccer) in Spain/Italy/France/etc the Irish seem to fanatically support the English teams.


  • #48
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    /soccer related thread.

    You made me say a dirty word.


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