Irish Single Mothers !!!!

ArtyM · 13-02-2013 09:03PM

Did anyone else read the thread title as though Beyonce was singing it?

Fukuyama · 13-02-2013 09:09PM

I'd say most single mothers are fine.

I think what the OP is referring to is the stereotypical single mother who can be spotted a mile off.

They're a drain on society and will be for the rest of their lives. But hey, that's why I pay USC.

oldyouth · 13-02-2013 09:09PM

A baby is like an iPhone 5. If you can't afford one, you shouldn't have one. Disgraceful attitude in society today that people think they can make such momentous decisions and think that the State will carry the cost.

Don't get me started :mad:

13-02-2013 09:09PM

Nodin wrote: »

Well we could stop stupid people from reproducing. People who make stupid posts about single mothers on message boards, for instance. We could round them up and cut the bollocks off the lot of them.

Are we talking about all single mothers? Is the title of the thread "post here if you hate all mothers who happen to be single"?

No.

So yeah, if someone were to be going around throwing random abuse at all single mothers, off you go bollock cutting. I won't try and stop you. :rolleyes:

Fukuyama · 13-02-2013 09:11PM

clairefontaine wrote: »

For every moronic mother out there, there's a cheapskate father not paying maintenance.

In fairness, it's obvious the subset being referred to in this thread. Even if they're not being exactly highlighted. Most single mothers and fathers have no relation to this discussion.

Finding the correct father for the young ladies being interviewed would require a special task force of FBI agents. :rolleyes:

Fukuyama · 13-02-2013 09:15PM

Morag wrote: »

Start with proper sex ed in schools, and free contraception & contraceptive dr visits for everyone between the age of 16 and 25.

I think we've engaged just about as many young people we can in the contraception discussion.

Unfortunately, dropping a kid is a career move for many young girls today. You could air drop 100,000 condoms into their bedroom every week and they'd still find a way of getting a hot pocket in the micro, so to speak.

Morag · 13-02-2013 09:18PM

Dean0088 wrote: »

I think we've engaged just about as many young people we can in the contraception discussion.

I don't think we have, and I don't think we will until we have a nation wide curriculum on the topic in all a schools.

Madam_X · 13-02-2013 09:20PM

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

What can we do, though, in order to stop this state sponsored retard production?

They're all disabled?

clairefontaine · 13-02-2013 09:20PM

Morag wrote: »

I don't think we have, and I don't think we will until we have a nation wide curriculum on the topic in all a schools.

Oh gosh. Given what they come home with about God, rubber stamped foreheads today, the usual, I would hardly trust them with reproductive issues.

13-02-2013 09:22PM

Madam_X wrote: »

They're all disabled?

No, just slow and useless.

strandroad · 13-02-2013 09:22PM

Airitech wrote: »

There's nothing you can do. You try to take away their benefits you end up depriving their children, who at this stage still have the potential to grow up to be decent people.

The benefits could be given in the form of more direct provision for children and distributed through schools (books, uniforms, meals), subsidised childcare etc. Shovelling cash into their parents only makes these kids their career choice.

13-02-2013 09:30PM

Pat Kenny regularly sends a reporter to interview people coming out of dole offices, community welfare offices and courts. It makes for fascinating listening. Usually it's those most familiar with the system that are interviewed. The system is there as a support and it is being abused by some, but not by the majority. The drug addled misfortunates coming out of the courts are the worst. Their lives are pitiful. We may laugh and point the finger, but would any of us swop with them? I think not.

Ms. Pingui · 13-02-2013 09:36PM

mhge wrote: »

The benefits could be given in the form of more direct provision for children and distributed through schools (books, uniforms, meals), subsidised childcare etc. Shovelling cash into their parents only makes these kids their career choice.

Ya sure just feed your kids with school books if you have no money. :rolleyes:

Morag · 13-02-2013 09:38PM

clairefontaine wrote: »

Oh gosh. Given what they come home with about God, rubber stamped foreheads today, the usual, I would hardly trust them with reproductive issues.

Both good reasons we need the RC Church out of schooling in this country.

13-02-2013 09:38PM

Ms. Pingui wrote: »

Ya sure just feed your kids with school books if you have no money. :rolleyes:

So your kids are fed, but have no books? Is that what you're trying to say, that you can only afford one or the other?

starlings · 13-02-2013 09:39PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Pat Kenny regularly sends a reporter to interview people coming out of dole offices, community welfare offices and courts. It makes for fascinating listening. Usually it's those most familiar with the system that are interviewed. The system is there as a support and it is being abused by some, but not by the majority. The drug addled misfortunates coming out of the courts are the worst. Their lives are pitiful. We may laugh and point the finger, but would any of us swop with them? I think not.

Fascinating and pitiful, as a freakshow with a one-way mirror... what bothers me is that the reporter then talks about them with Pat - publicly and behind their backs at the same time. He asks them personal questions about birth control, but doesn't challenge their nonsense about Polish people. It'd be better if he recorded their discussions with welfare officers - we'd get a blazing row, but they just might get some decent information.

Ms. Pingui · 13-02-2013 09:41PM

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

So your kids are fed, but have no books? Is that what you're trying to say, that you can only afford one or the other?

The poster I quoted was suggesting giving subsidized school supplies to the children instead of giving money to their mothers, hence my post.

GoldenLight · 13-02-2013 09:41PM

My lovely niece and all of my great nieces and nephews, where born out side of wedlock, Sometimes their father made a decision to be part of their childs life, sometimes they decided not to, in fairness no one can force someone into being a mother or father.

But each and everyone of them is a member of my family, and I will love them regardless, they are my family.

So OP I don't care, if the father did a runner, **** happens and people do **** things, she had no control over it

Well that's what I read into the quote you put up to "shame" the girl, I think she is doing the best she can.

Son Of A Vidic · 13-02-2013 09:43PM

biko wrote: »

Why use plural when singular was called for?

There's no need now to go and confuse the OP like that.

starlings · 13-02-2013 09:44PM

Morag wrote: »

I don't think we have, and I don't think we will until we have a nation wide curriculum on the topic in all a schools.

AFAIK we have, but it's up to each school to decide on teaching it - the dept. of Education hasn't the guts to tell school boards to f*ck off!

strandroad · 13-02-2013 09:44PM

Ms. Pingui wrote: »

Ya sure just feed your kids with school books if you have no money. :rolleyes:

If the kid gets meals in school it surely helps. And parents get their own benefits... or they can even look for work. They would have to buy these anyway so providing them directly only makes sure that they are spent on the child and not on parents' fun or habits.

Paddy Cow · 13-02-2013 09:47PM

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

So the Polish are at fault... And I like the fact "it's too much trouble to try to get maintenance".

Sure it'll be grand. She can move on with her life and find another man who will love and respect her.

clairefontaine wrote: »

For every moronic mother out there, there's a cheapskate father not paying maintenance.

There are also plenty of fathers who do pay maintenance......off the books.

The King of Moo · 13-02-2013 09:47PM

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Are we talking about all single mothers? Is the title of the thread "post here if you hate all mothers who happen to be single"?

It effectively is. If a thread is called "Irish Single Mothers !!!!" then the obvious assumption is that it's about all Irish single mothers (as the OP doesn't bother specifiying which ones he's talking about), and the four (four!!!!) exclamation marks are an indication that there's shocking things in store!! Now usually when shock is associated with threads about single mothers on this forum, it's shockingly ignorant posts which cause it.

I must say though, I like this new policy of simplistic thread titles. It's like people aren't bothering to pretend that there's any depth of thought behind the thread. I'm now to start "African Taxi Drivers !!!!"

crockholm · 13-02-2013 09:48PM

Morag wrote: »

Both good reasons we need the RC Church out of schooling in this country.

You are right,lets get the RCC out of education and say goodbye to underage pregnancy and single-motherhood, I knew it was the bishops! None of that kind of stuff going on in Britain and the US

13-02-2013 09:49PM

Ms. Pingui wrote: »

The poster I quoted was suggesting giving subsidized school supplies to the children instead of giving money to their mothers, hence my post.

I would imagine they were trying to make the point that rather than giving money to the mother for books, school supplies etc, that money should instead be given in the form of books and school supplies - this way, the money goes on school supplies and only on school supplies. I don't think they were talking about replacing their dole with Dickens novels..

Nice overreaction all the same.

strandroad · 13-02-2013 09:51PM

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

I would imagine they were trying to make the point that rather than giving money to the mother for books, school supplies etc, that money should instead be given in the form of books and school supplies - this way, the money goes on school supplies and only on school supplies. I don't think they were talking about replacing their dole with Dickens novels..

Precisely, thank you.

13-02-2013 09:51PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

It effectively is. If a thread is called "Irish Single Mothers !!!!" then the obvious assumption is that it's about all Irish single mothers (as the OP doesn't bother specifiying which ones he's talking about), and the four (four!!!!) exclamation marks are an indication that there's shocking things in store!! Now usually when shock is associated with threads about single mothers on this forum, it's shockingly ignorant posts which cause it.

I must say though, I like this new policy of simplistic thread titles. It's like people aren't bothering to pretend that there's any depth of thought behind the thread. I'm now to start "African Taxi Drivers !!!!"

There is a very specific sort of single mother described in the opening post, around which this thread is based.

Good luck with the thread, I'm sure it will be golden.

gallag · 13-02-2013 09:52PM

Make a list naming all people that are net receiver's off the state, people will put an importance on staying off this list, others will accept shame instead of contributing to society I.e have a lie in every day . Eat that socialists.

Johro · 13-02-2013 09:56PM

biko wrote: »

Why use plural when singular was called for?

Yes. This is the real issue here, let's not forget that. It's an outrage. It's up there with the BBC news telling me earlier today that Richard III had been buried under a car park for the last six hundred years.
There were no car parks six hundred years ago. Cart parks, maybe. F#ckin hell like.

Johro · 13-02-2013 09:57PM

Irish Single Mothers !!!!

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