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Tiffanys - where in the world & is NY worth it?

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  • #32
    hfallada
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    Would you maybe pick a ring in tiffanys and get all the details about carat sizes etc. and then either if you go to NYC go to the diamond district and speak to the other jewellers and see what they can do on the price and produce an copy of the ring for a huge discount.

    Or go to antwerp in Belgium. I heard of people getting cheap good quality diamond rings there. Or even look at o reillys auctions now and again. They sale unbelieveable rings now and again.

    I think customs will charge you for it here is bs. If you have it in a pocket and can't see them stopping you. I have never heard of anyone getting custom charges in Dublin.

    Btw if you buy it in NYC. You can get the ring shipped to the low tax states and avoid sales tax


  • #33
    another question
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    hfallada wrote: »
    Would you maybe pick a ring in tiffanys and get all the details about carat sizes etc. and then either if you go to NYC go to the diamond district and speak to the other jewellers and see what they can do on the price and produce an copy of the ring for a huge discount.

    Or go to antwerp in Belgium. I heard of people getting cheap good quality diamond rings there. Or even look at o reillys auctions now and again. They sale unbelieveable rings now and again.

    I think customs will charge you for it here is bs. If you have it in a pocket and can't see them stopping you. I have never heard of anyone getting custom charges in Dublin.

    Btw if you buy it in NYC. You can get the ring shipped to the low tax states and avoid sales tax

    Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think he is particularly worried about customs stopping him, I think it has more to do with when he goes to insure it on his return that there may be some clause thrown up that the appropriate taxes haven't been paid on it...like VRT on an imported car for example.


  • #34
    derpderpderp
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    AnotherQuestion; think thats a bit harsh on the BT staff. I found so far they have been very friendly and even friendly after I mentioned that I may look at the other markets because it may be cheaper.

    At the end of the day, I am buying Tiffany; that is my decision and the right one (im astounded at the judgements made here; you should be ashamed of yourselves trying to influence someones decision like that!) as she is worth it.

    No longer worried about customs. Have that sorted now.

    So, despite what others are saying here, it is much cheaper to go to the States and buy a Tiffany, or any diamond ring for that matter, from what I have had sent to me. I would highly advise it. The savings of over 1k will be for our celebration holiday after I pop the q.


  • #35
    Sleepy
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    lazygal wrote: »
    There's no way I'd buy fine jewellery online from eBay. The risk of fakes and stone swapping is far too high and you've little comeback if anything goes wrong. I know someone who got stung with a 'bargain' ring that was not the same as the certs when they went to get it valued for insurance.
    A fair fear so why not try a more reputable auction house?

    OP, there are two pitfalls you've fallen into here: the myth that diamonds are valuable and the myth that Tiffany's are superior to other jewellers.

    Now, maybe your fiancée is the vacuous sort for whom the brand is more important than the quality of the product but lets give her the benefit of the doubt that she's not an idiot. You can get higher carat, higher clarity, cleaner colour diamond rings for the same money as you have to spend in another retail jewellers.

    Leave the retail market behind and go down the antique/vintage route and you can * massively* increase the quality of the ring your budget can buy. If the name on the box is truly that important to you / your other half there's nothing stopping you going this route and looking for a vintage/second-hand ring that someone else bought in Tiffany.

    Sure, it's more hassle and less glamorous than a trip to New York but as you regard her as worth spending the money on, why not spend the same money and get her a ring that actually approaches the value of what you're spending?

    Remember: all these morons you hear quoting valuations on rings they bought abroad are quoting the "replacement value" not the value of what they actually have: if you want to know the value of a diamond ring, try selling one.

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  • #36
    another question
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    Oh guys give it a rest with the alternative suggestions. He clearly stated in the first line of his post that he did not want opinions on his place of purchase. Monetary value of a diamond is one thing but his fiance to be and himself clearly place a different value on a Tiffany ring for what it is as do many, many other people in the world hence why they have such a well established business. She will have the ring for life and whether they can get a better diamond for less money is irrelevant when dealing with something sentimental. If they both want Tiffany and he can afford and she will be thrilled leave them at it unless you have got something productive in the line of his question to contribute.


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  • #37
    Sleepy
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    What's unproductive about suggesting he look at antique or second hand Tiffany rings?

    He'll get twice the ring for his money as he'll get going into any of their stores.

    That's useful advice imo.

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  • #38
    another question
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    Sleepy wrote: »
    What's unproductive about suggesting he look at antique or second hand Tiffany rings?

    He'll get twice the ring for his money as he'll get going into any of their stores.

    That's useful advice imo.


    Because he doesn't want to, that's why!


  • #39
    derpderpderp
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21 ✭derpderpderp


    I honestly didnt think I could be clearer in my first post. And its such a shame; what could be a very beneficial economic post for those looking for the best have derailed it.


  • #40
    Sleepy
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    another question wrote: »
    Because he doesn't want to, that's why!
    Not wanting to listen to reality doesn't make it any less true.
    derpderpderp wrote: »
    I honestly didnt think I could be clearer in my first post. And its such a shame; what could be a very beneficial economic post for those looking for the best have derailed it.
    If you're looking for the best, you're looking in the wrong place. Your budget could fetch far more by going elsewhere: you can get a much better ring that was made by the same jewellery chain you like for less than they'll charge you for it retail.

    If pointing that out that a legal alternative to smuggling the ring in from the States without paying the relevant duty on it exists is derailing a topic, I apologise.

    If you'd rather spend a large sum on the other half in a fancy place than buy her better for the same money: go buy it in Dublin, you won't be breaking the law smuggling it in from the States and you'll be supporting our economy over another European country's.

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  • #41
    ABajaninCork
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    Just had a gander at the rings on Tiff's. I looked at a ring very similar to mine in style and weight. The CHEAPEST is £4,600!!!! :eek:. And I bet the stone is only an 'H' grade even though it didn't actually say...My ring certainly didn't cost that and I have an 'F' grade stone. Obviously if you want a better stone, then it'll cost more.

    I really think the OP's wasting his money at Tiff's. If he wants a 'name' then I think Boodles is better TBH, but just as overpriced.


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  • #42
    Penny Dreadful
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    Sleepy wrote: »
    What's unproductive about suggesting he look at antique or second hand Tiffany rings?

    He'll get twice the ring for his money as he'll get going into any of their stores.

    That's useful advice imo.

    But he wants to go to their store(s) and that is his choice. The advice he asked for was whether he would get the Tiffany ring in a Tiffany store cheaper in NYC/Dublin/London or elsewhere and if there may be issues re: insurance when he brought it back.


  • #43
    Sleepy
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    Of course it's his choice. He's also said, however, that he wants "the best" and the facts are that he can't have both.

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  • #44
    tinkerbell
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    I think people are being a bit harsh on the OP. His question is will it be cheaper to buy in Tiffany NYC rather than London or Dublin. In fairness, if he's looking at spending €10k on a ring, he's going to want a new and shiny one, not some second hand ring or antique ring. I know that I personally would no way in hell have wanted a second hand or antique engagement ring, and a lot of girls feel that way. Plenty more may be happy with second hand or antique but plenty more want a brand new one.

    At the end of the day, it's his choice on how he spends his money. People may be horrified at the idea of him spending €10k on a ring in Tiffany when he can get the same grade ring in another shop, but it's nobody else's business but his.

    OP, I'd recommend you buy it in London as it has a far bigger selection than the Tiffany in Dublin. Plus you'll have no issues it's insuring it then since you're buying it in the EU and also you won't have to worry about customs. If you're wondering what price you'll pay over here vs NYC, just look at their website for other non-engagement jewellery and see what the premium is - they have a US website and also a UK and Irish one. Happy shopping!


  • #45
    smootchio
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    Follow your heart OP and if it is Tiffany you want go for it.

    However as great as Portland is for no sales tax (and also an amazing city) it is a grueling flight even if you travel via Chicago trust me, for "the ring" I would rather a visit to London and then a nice romantic break after the question was popped!.

    None of us on boards know you or your OH and what relationship you pair have but what i would say is really think about weather you want to miss the opportunity of spending a few days with her in NY. I know myself i would be gutted if himself went somewhere like NY for the ring, why keep all the excitement for yourself take her along too, or why not order it then collect it together. Someone earlier had a good idea of going over with her to get the wedding bands and picking the rings out here or over in London. (you wont have expense of missing a day or two's work too)

    If it was me unless I had a friend or family member traveling to America I would stick with this side of the world after all you are still getting your Tiffany ring.

    What ever you choose to do good luck!


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