€100 Note

ThreeLineWhip · 11-02-2013 06:37PM

If you put €100 of petrol in your car and went to pay with a €100 note they would have no choice but to accept it. You have incurred a debt and are using legal tender to settle said debt. If they refused to accept it you have got yourself free petrol.

Cienciano · 11-02-2013 06:58PM

I thought that the law regarding legal tender was that if you have a clear sign up saying you don't accept notes larger than €50, you're ok.
Never saw this at a petrol station pumps, so yeah, the perfect place to spend it.

FloatingVoter · 11-02-2013 07:20PM

I've seen a regular break a €500 in a Dublin city centre hotel. Given the lunch trade this Abbey St. establishment does they'd have no problem and given that the guy was known to them no need to suspect him. I did still see them scan the note though.

Airitech · 11-02-2013 07:49PM

Cienciano wrote: »

I thought that the law regarding legal tender was that if you have a clear sign up saying you don't accept notes larger than €50, you're ok.
Never saw this at a petrol station pumps, so yeah, the perfect place to spend it.

Legal tender is something you are required to accept to settle a debt. If no debt has been created you can refuse to accept any note or coin and there is no requirement to advise people of that beforehand.

If you are having dinner in a restaurant a debt is created because you had the meal before you pay for it. They have to accept any legal tender you offer in payment.

In a fast food takeaway you pay for your food before you get it so no debt is created. They can refuse to take whatever note you offer if they feel like and no one is any worse off.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_tender

rannerap · 11-02-2013 10:42PM

Go to the sel service check out in tesco or dunnes, problem solved

Senna · 11-02-2013 11:18PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Apple Green Services on the M1 wont accept them either.

The next time i've a €100 note, I'd nearly fill up my car with petrol and see what they say; dont have a credit card and they cant take the petrol back?

Jen Pigs Fly · 11-02-2013 11:20PM

I got scammed using a 100 euro note while in work. He scammed me out of 50 by using a confusion method and swapping mony over. Irrelevant.

I will no longer take 100euro notes because of this, I came very close to loosing my job because of that sneaky scammer. Never again

repsol · 11-02-2013 11:21PM

Senna wrote: »

The next time i've a €100 note, I'd nearly fill up my car with petrol and see what they say; dont have a credit card and they cant take the petrol back?

They are stupid ****ers.If you were on the fiddle you could just fill up and drive off.

Procrastastudy · 11-02-2013 11:24PM

Rented Mule wrote: »

Are many shops hiring the handicapped these days or is this a reflection of the educational system ?

Most would have an equal opportunities policy. Its cretins that make comments like the one above retailers tend to try and avoid hiring.

I think most people would be hard pressed to describe the security features on a €100 note without resorting to google. Furthermore it's generally some idiot trying to pay for a paper with one. Shops normally drop €50 notes into the counter cache so they don't encourage someone to wander in and stick a syringe in their face.

ThreeLineWhip · 11-02-2013 11:33PM

Senna wrote: »

The next time i've a €100 note, I'd nearly fill up my car with petrol and see what they say; dont have a credit card and they cant take the petrol back?

They have to take the money in that situation as a debt exists. If they refuse it's free petrol.

Gillo · 11-02-2013 11:39PM

ThreeLineWhip wrote: »

They have to take the money in that situation as a debt exists. If they refuse it's free petrol.

That also could play you at your own game by pointing out they don't have to give change; the onus is on you to have the correct amount of money, if you don't have the exact amount the retailer is merely conveniencing you by giving you back change.

Sky King · 11-02-2013 11:39PM

A mate of mine carries a miniature 50 in his wallet and he takes it out when he tries to pay with a regular 50 and they ask him if he has got anything smaller.

ThreeLineWhip · 11-02-2013 11:42PM

Gillo wrote: »

That also could play you at your own game by pointing out they don't have to give change; the onus is on you to have the correct amount of money, if you don't have the exact amount the retailer is merely conveniencing you by giving you back change.

Correct, there is no requirement to give change. So make sure you spend the whole €100.

Antar Bolaeisk · 11-02-2013 11:44PM

Rented Mule wrote: »

Are many shops hiring the handicapped these days or is this a reflection of the educational system ?

Evidently you have never worked in a shop or similar environment. The number of times I saw fake notes accepted was beyond belief. I even did little training sessions with the staff, demonstrating the various identifiers of the real notes and then setting them a test where they had to identify the real/fake notes.

I don't know if they hated me, if I was a bad teacher or if they were just plain stupid but the results were 50/50.

Most of the forgeries were pretty crap as well, the type of things you could easily identify the moment you touched them.

goose2005 · 11-02-2013 11:46PM

ThreeLineWhip wrote: »

If you put €100 of petrol in your car and went to pay with a €100 note they would have no choice but to accept it. You have incurred a debt and are using legal tender to settle said debt. If they refused to accept it you have got yourself free petrol.

What kind of car do you have that can hold €100 of petrol?

hatrickpatrick · 11-02-2013 11:48PM

I'm so sick of the number of ridiculous restrictions on what you can spend these days tbh. Shops won't accept anything big, vending machines won't accept coppers. The latter landed me a DART fine last year when the machine kept spitting out the coins I was trying to pay with and I didn't have anything else.

Legal tender should be legal tender IMO. If it's legal tender they should be obliged to accept it regardless, unless they actually don't have enough change to give you.

Antar Bolaeisk · 11-02-2013 11:49PM

goose2005 wrote: »

What kind of car do you have that can hold €100 of petrol?

Probably a 1l punto

Procrastastudy · 11-02-2013 11:54PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I'm so sick of the number of ridiculous restrictions on what you can spend these days tbh. Shops won't accept anything big, vending machines won't accept coppers. The latter landed me a DART fine last year when the machine kept spitting out the coins I was trying to pay with and I didn't have anything else.

Legal tender should be legal tender IMO. If it's legal tender they should be obliged to accept it regardless, unless they actually don't have enough change to give you.

That system would end up with only the first guy of the day getting change. It's totally impractical and dangerous for shops etc. to carry large amounts af cash readily available. To be honest cash should be scrapped. Plastic all the way - the cost savings would be enormous.

Airitech · 11-02-2013 11:59PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I'm so sick of the number of ridiculous restrictions on what you can spend these days tbh. Shops won't accept anything big, vending machines won't accept coppers. The latter landed me a DART fine last year when the machine kept spitting out the coins I was trying to pay with and I didn't have anything else.

Legal tender should be legal tender IMO. If it's legal tender they should be obliged to accept it regardless, unless they actually don't have enough change to give you.

I know what you mean but legal tender doesn't mean money. It's just not practical to use paper currency and coins anymore. The sooner everyone moves to electronic transactions the better ( and I know they have their downsides too).

Amalgam · 11-02-2013 11:59PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Shops won't accept anything big, vending machines won't accept coppers. The latter landed me a DART fine last year when the machine kept spitting out the coins I was trying to pay with and I didn't have anything else.

Station staff spotted me trying to get rid of a coin hoard in a ticket machine and he told me there's a mechanical limit of '30 something', he was very specific, something like ,36, 37 coins.. but I forget which.

ThreeLineWhip · 11-02-2013 11:59PM

Any decent 4x4 will hold €100 of fuel.

Ficheall · 12-02-2013 12:01AM

RobbingBandit wrote: »

wrong, example: if the store accept a fake €100 for €10 worth of stock they are down €200, the value of the fake €100 plus the €90 they have issued in change plus the €10 worth of shopping.

The Samantha Brick of thieves...

Run_to_da_hills · 12-02-2013 12:03AM

I handled a £100 note from the early 70's as a kid, (not mine of course) At the time it would have been a months wages for some. It was much larger than smaller denominations and the images on the back of it would give any child nightmares.

12-02-2013 12:09AM

guineylab wrote: »

i asked for a 500 note in the bank and they said they didnt carry anything over 50 !

They don't get any in, so the only time they'd have any is when someone deposits them.

I gave someone a counterfeit €50 in work once by accident, and had to take the blame for it having been taken in in the first place. Looking at it I could easily see how it was fake, but when you're in the middle of trying to work your way through a never ending queue of irritated customers, it's difficult to stay vigilant about these things.

Anything over a €50 I'd check a few ways, €50s I'd check just the scratchy bit, and I generally don't stop to check anything lower unless it's very obvious. You get a lot of bad coin though, since there's plenty of foreign coin that resembles euro that gets into people's wallets that they then want to try to get rid of.

Procrastastudy · 12-02-2013 12:10AM

I'm pretty sure the €500 is out of circulation due to the issues with smuggling etc.

Weren't 80% of them in Spain at one point?

hatrickpatrick · 12-02-2013 12:12AM

Procrastastudy wrote: »

That system would end up with only the first guy of the day getting change. It's totally impractical and dangerous for shops etc. to carry large amounts af cash readily available. To be honest cash should be scrapped. Plastic all the way - the cost savings would be enormous.

Airitech wrote: »

I know what you mean but legal tender doesn't mean money. It's just not practical to use paper currency and coins anymore. The sooner everyone moves to electronic transactions the better ( and I know they have their downsides too).

I reckon that would be disastrous for civil liberties, unless someone comes up with a way of preventing transactions from being logged and subsequently perused by anyone with access.

Procrastastudy · 12-02-2013 12:17AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I reckon that would be disastrous for civil liberties, unless someone comes up with a way of preventing transactions from being logged and subsequently perused by anyone with access.

You don't think that's possible with cash?

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