How sick do you need to be to not go to work?

El_Dangeroso · 10-02-2013 07:55PM

RhubarbCrumble wrote: »

If I don't go to work, there's no one else there to do it and it has to be done next day. Given that I have to be in set places on set days, not a good idea. If I ring in sick the only person it causes a problem for is myself

I'm the same, work just rolls over to the next day, ditto for holidays, it just snowballs along till I come back.:(

woodoo · 10-02-2013 07:55PM

tenton wrote: »

or people in soft jobs, according to all evidence. "PUBLIC servants took twice as much sick leave as private sector workers last year\"

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/sickies-in-public-service-twice-that-of-private-sector-26798438.html

You are like a broken record. Its worrying that there are people out there so obsessed with one subject.

Have you nothing else to offer :rolleyes:

HondaSami · 10-02-2013 07:57PM

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

I'm feeling under the weather today, think I'm coming down with a cold - not hungover if that's what you were thinking:)

Not super sick, but definitely ache-y and slowed down and mostly thrown down on the couch listlessly. Currently debating whether to go into work tomorrow if I still feel this bad. If I feel worse it's a definite, but currently I'm borderline.

How sick do you need to be before you call in sick? Are you the 'soldier-on-until-imminent-death' type or do you have a duvet day at the first sign of a runny nose?

Get up and go into work, go home sick if you have too, looks much better than phoning/texting in sick.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 10-02-2013 08:00PM

TheBody wrote: »

I don't get paid unless I'm at work, so I'm one of those 'soldier-on-until-imminent-death' people you refer to.

I'm the same, although, some companies don't like it when you turn up sick. They don't want you to come into work just in case you spread your sickness and more people end up out because of it. I haven't called in sick for 3 years, but at the same time, there's plenty of people who don't turn up on a regular basis because they are "sick"...

Denerick · 10-02-2013 08:01PM

Don't understand the controversy.

If you're ill, don't go into work.

Are we ****ing slaves? The vast majority of us work so that a tiny minority can enjoy the trappings of wealth whilst we life at a subsistence or quasi subsistence level. The greatest enemy of the working man is the working man's warped sense of ethics.

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 08:03PM

galwayrush wrote: »

It's not an option for the self employed.

It's always an option for the self employed to not be self employed. Join PAYE.

GT_TDI_150 · 10-02-2013 08:03PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Nobody should get paid for not being at work.

Real mature attitude that, i was just out for 10 days with percarditis(infection on my heart) the pain from this is horrible, cant cough, yawn, clear nose, walking hurts, extremely difficult to sleep, really painful to lie down, breathing was restricted, shoulders were like they had pins jammed in them, vibration from the roads meant being in the car was excrutiating but hey thats fine, no need to pay me, my small fella cant survive on dust for a week or 2 no bother.

If employers were forced to pay sick pay they might pay more attention to those 'pulling sickies' when fine and healthy!

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 08:05PM

Denerick wrote: »

Don't understand the controversy.

If you're ill, don't go into work.

Are we ****ing slaves? The vast majority of us work so that a tiny minority can enjoy the trappings of wealth whilst we life at a subsistence or quasi subsistence level. The greatest enemy of the working man is the working man's warped sense of ethics.

We're hardly at subsistence level. However your general sentiment is correct and I am pro capitalist.

People fought hard for these rights. You don't have to be dying to not go to work. Just sick. In fact making other people sick is bad for business.

kfallon · 10-02-2013 08:05PM

woodoo wrote: »

Too many steaks.

It was the Michelin star food and vin rouge!

I actually very rarely eat steak (if you excuse the pun!)

Pinklady11 · 10-02-2013 08:07PM

Generally I would go to work if I just had a cold or something similar. If I have any injuries I don't go and get a note from the doctor. Thats most due to my job being physically demanding.

El_Dangeroso · 10-02-2013 08:26PM

HondaSami wrote: »

Get up and go into work, go home sick if you have too, looks much better than phoning/texting in sick.

See, I'm a salary worker, and work to projects, not hours clocked. I often put in extra hours or work the odd Saturday, so work knows that I'm not prone to skiving.

I used to do just that, but find once I start getting into the day, then go home I'll be tormented with calls and emails as once people see you're in at the morning the expectation is that you'll still be there in the afternoon!

In any case, I'm feeling a bit better, still a bit ****ty but nothing more serious developing I think.

HTML5! · 10-02-2013 08:30PM

woodoo wrote: »

Too many steaks.

Educate yourself on something before commenting on it.

tenton · 10-02-2013 08:34PM

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

It's always an option for the self employed to not be self employed. Join PAYE.

Communism has failed in any country it was tried in. Besides, two wrongs do not make a right. Quadrupling or multiplying by a factor of 10 the number of sick days lost in the economy would not help the economy.

CarrickMcJoe · 10-02-2013 08:35PM

Odysseus wrote: »

Ah come on, a total blanket ban on all sick leave? On what grounds?

On people who regard sick leave as an extension on their holidays!

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 08:36PM

tenton wrote: »

Communism has failed in any country it was tried in. Besides, two wrongs do not make a right. Quadrupling or multiplying by a factor of 10 the number of sick days lost in the economy would not help the economy.

What has "communism" got to do with anything I said? Do you think the PAYE sector is all communistic? Or what, exactly?

Nobody is defending people taking fake sickies, just real ones.

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 08:37PM

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

On people who regard sick leave as an extension on their holidays!

Which isn't what we are talking about. The OP is sick.

tenton · 10-02-2013 08:40PM

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

What has "communism" got to do with anything I said?.

you wrote "It's always an option for the self employed to not be self employed. Join PAYE."
silly comment

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 08:42PM

tenton wrote: »

you wrote "It's always an option for the self employed to not be self employed. Join PAYE."
silly comment

And then I said - what has that gotto do with communism. No point quoting me again. Explain why think you the PAYE sector is communist.

HondaSami · 10-02-2013 08:42PM

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

On people who regard sick leave as an extension on their holidays!

This should not be allowed happen, doctors should not be signing certs if people are not sick. This is changing in the public service now, long overdue.

testicle · 10-02-2013 08:43PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Nobody should get paid for not being at work.

Damn those holidays I've planned!

tenton · 10-02-2013 08:44PM

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

And then I said - what has that gotto do with communism. No point quoting me again. Explain why think you the PAYE sector is communist.

what would every self employed person leaving self employment achieve?
That type of society failed in case you never noticed.

CarrickMcJoe · 10-02-2013 08:46PM

From first day sick leave should be certified. This 2 or 3 days of uncertified leave is a copout.

tenton · 10-02-2013 08:47PM

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

The OP is sick.

Correction, The OP thinks he / she is "coming down with a cold". They must have a soft job if they think they can get paid for not working while they think they are coming down with a cold

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 08:50PM

tenton wrote: »

what would every self employed person leaving self employment achieve?
That type of society failed in case you never noticed.

Where did I say every self employed person should leave self employment?.

I used to be self employed, now i dont. It easy. And again why do you continue to think that only the self employed work in the private sector? The PAYE sector is mostly private

HondaSami · 10-02-2013 08:51PM

tenton wrote: »

Correction, The OP thinks he / she is "coming down with a cold". They must have a soft job if they think they can get paid for not working while they think they are coming down with a cold

I think the OP said he is on a salary, he is going to get paid anyway.

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 08:51PM

tenton wrote: »

Correction, The OP thinks he / she is "coming down with a cold". They must have a soft job if they think they can get paid for not working while they think they are coming down with a cold

Really? Surely a cold would be good enough in most jobs if severe enough.

Are some people here posting from the 19th century workhouses?

Best username ever · 10-02-2013 08:52PM

kfallon wrote: »

I work for a very large Financial Services Company and I have never heard of them mentioning absenteeism. In fact a mate of mine was out for months with depression and they went out of their way to integrate him back into the company. Think he even got a bit of a bonus in his first month back as it was annual bonus time in the company even tho he hadn't been there for about 9-10 months.

Listen, I work in in a team of elite engineers, the grades go on time spent in the company, say 6 of us spend 90%' of our time there, the other four get 100% of their pay rises for 100% activity.

It's not a great system but it roots out the useless fúckers.

tenton · 10-02-2013 08:54PM

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

I used to be self employed, now i dont. It easy.

so is getting paid for dubious sickies which some people advocate. Its easy. go for it. if you think you are coming down with a cold there is no need to go to work. Take a few days off. Mind your stress levels too.

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 08:56PM

tenton wrote: »

so is getting paid for dubious sickies which some people advocate. Its easy. go for it.

Nobody is defending dubious sickies. If the OP is sick he should stay out. Some companies actually force that issue.

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 08:59PM

Best username ever wrote: »

Listen, I work in in a team of elite engineers, the grades go on time spent in the company, say 6 of us spend 90%' of our time there, the other four get 100% of their pay rises for 100% activity.

It's not a great system but it roots out the useless fúckers.

That's the weirdest system. I worked in a company where the best engineer made his own time - I wasn't good enough to do that and prefer regular hours. He came in late and worked late and was - by all accounts - brilliant. Except for the morale of other employees that is often the way to treat the very skilled.

Your company judges it's "elite" engineers by how much time they spend in the office?

How sick do you need to be to not go to work?

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