Feb 9th Protest - will you be joining?

ilovesleep · 09-02-2013 03:36PM

How are the protests getting alone? I slept it out for my bus so missed the starting point of my local protest in Galway. But got the next bus in and ended up joining the protest crowd at their gathering place for about 10 minutes. There's a big sing song. A good crowd.

How are the protests in Dublin, Cork, Limerick and the rest of the places that protests were due to be held?

tenton · 09-02-2013 03:53PM

90% of those marching are paid by the taxpayer, and want to keep getting paid big amounts of money by the taxpayer.....funded of course by taxes from the private sector and by government borrowing.

squod · 09-02-2013 04:07PM

tenton wrote: »

90% of those marching are paid by the taxpayer, and want to keep getting paid big amounts of money by the taxpayer.....funded of course by taxes from the private sector and by government borrowing.

That true or are you taking the piss assuming that's the case?

The Waltzing Consumer · 09-02-2013 04:15PM

squod wrote: »

That true or are you taking the piss assuming that's the case?

I would be extremely surprised if this was not the case.

COYW · 09-02-2013 04:17PM

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

I would be extremely surprised if this was not the case.

I agree, it's a trade union march. It is all about limiting the damage to their membership.

lockon... · 09-02-2013 04:29PM

COYW wrote: »

I agree, it's a trade union march. It is all about limiting the damage to their membership.

This is what happens when you let the public sector unions in charge:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSh7WUK1GDc&feature=player_detailpage#t=12s

markesmith · 09-02-2013 04:47PM

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

Nope, not laziness. I don't like to waste my time p1ssing and moaning about something that is not going to change.

I prefer to get on with my life.

People who spend their efforts looking for work or looking for business opportunities or services that are missing or volunteering with charities or educating themselves or setting a new goal or task for themselves are spending their time much more wisely than marching on the streets yelling meaningless slogans "JOBS NOT DEBT JOBS NOT DEBT" Oh, gee never thought about that :rolleyes:

Can't we do all these things though? Marching on the street is a show of strength. Can you not do your job/look for work, volunteer, donate, etc as well?

It's weird that you hold everything else up as worthwhile activity, but

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

p1ssing and moaning about something that is not going to change.

yelling meaningless slogans

is your definition of protest.

Think Martin Luther King. Think the French Revolution. Think Gandhi. You don't have to piss and moan. You just have to be another person in the crowd of dissenters.

Fianna Fail are apparently the biggest party in the state again.

Something has to change, or it really will be a "will the last one out turn off the lights" scenario.

Death and Taxes · 09-02-2013 04:54PM

ilovesleep wrote: »

How are the protests getting alone? I slept it out for my bus so missed the starting point of my local protest in Galway. But got the next bus in and ended up joining the protest crowd at their gathering place for about 10 minutes. There's a big sing song. A good crowd.

How are the protests in Dublin, Cork, Limerick and the rest of the places that protests were due to be held?

Major flop. despite Beggs prediction earlier in the week that between 80,000-100,000 would turn up it looks like maybe a quarter of that number actually did!

MadsL · 09-02-2013 04:55PM

25k people today. I was outside the Dail the night of the bank guarantee vote, less than 1,000. Too late people, too late.

suicide_circus · 09-02-2013 04:56PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Major flop. despite Beggs prediction earlier in the week that between 80,000-100,000 would turn up it looks like maybe a quarter of that number actually did!

David Beggs is a cynical greedy useless hypocrit

20Cent · 09-02-2013 05:04PM

tenton wrote: »

90% of those marching are paid by the taxpayer, and want to keep getting paid big amounts of money by the taxpayer.....funded of course by taxes from the private sector and by government borrowing.

Most ICTU members are private sector plus they are only the organisers plenty of other groups there.

100,000 or so in Dublin.

dark crystal · 09-02-2013 05:05PM

ilovesleep wrote: »

How are the protests getting alone? I slept it out for my bus so missed the starting point of my local protest in Galway. But got the next bus in and ended up joining the protest crowd at their gathering place for about 10 minutes. There's a big sing song. A good crowd.

How are the protests in Dublin, Cork, Limerick and the rest of the places that protests were due to be held?

Huge protest in Waterford. It was really heartening to see so many people turn out.

Almaviva · 09-02-2013 05:07PM

tenton wrote: »

90% of those marching are paid by the taxpayer, and want to keep getting paid big amounts of money by the taxpayer.....funded of course by taxes from the private sector and by government borrowing.

Indeed. Whingers and moaners just throwing the toys of the pram because life isnt as nice as they thought they had it.

If it keeps them happy and makes them feel as if they are achieving something, even though it wont have the slightest impact on government policy, then I suppose it serves some good. A modern kind of bread and circuses for the populace.

Same mentality that threw FF out of government, and now with pay cuts and conditions changes in the pipeline under Croke Park 2, think that getting FG and Lab out and FF back in is what is needed. Oh the innocence.

hmmm · 09-02-2013 05:10PM

25000 in Dublin apparently. That's a pretty poor show from the public sector unions. Roll on Croke Park 2 when the taxpayer might begin to get some value for their taxes.

Almaviva · 09-02-2013 05:11PM

dark crystal wrote: »

It was really heartening to see so many people turn out.

If there were crowds out, it makes me feel embarrassed to be Irish.
Now if the event were a flop and no sizeable crowds materialised, I would have some renewed confidence in the future of this country and that its citizens might do the right thing for a change and dig themselves out of the mess they made of the previous 10 years.

Kess73 · 09-02-2013 05:12PM

ilovesleep wrote: »

How are the protests getting alone? I slept it out for my bus so missed the starting point of my local protest in Galway. But got the next bus in and ended up joining the protest crowd at their gathering place for about 10 minutes. There's a big sing song. A good crowd.

How are the protests in Dublin, Cork, Limerick and the rest of the places that protests were due to be held?

Would guess that there was circa six to eight thousand at the Limerick protest as it passed below the building I was in.

lockon... · 09-02-2013 05:16PM

dark crystal wrote: »

Huge protest in Waterford. It was really heartening to see so many people turn out.

2,000 - that's a bit embarrassing

In Waterford, local estimates suggest around 2,000 people turned out for the rally, which began from the Glen, to Bridge St, onto The Quay and finished on John Roberts Square.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0209/366914-marches/

mikemac1 · 09-02-2013 05:18PM

Should have gotten the IFA to organise it.

The farmers never fail to put on a good protest

Almaviva · 09-02-2013 05:22PM

lockon... wrote: »

2,000 - that's a bit embarrassing

Indicates the great support out there for the austerity programme I suppose.

Boombastic · 09-02-2013 05:41PM

All hail our union overlords, they should award themselves a payrise with bonuses.

jaffacakesyum · 09-02-2013 05:51PM

markesmith wrote: »

Think Martin Luther King. Think the French Revolution. Think Gandhi. You don't have to piss and moan. You just have to be another person in the crowd of dissenters.

Oh dear Lord

If you're comparing the march today to those situations, I think I've made the right decision in staying at home and studying.

Each to their own and all that though. I just don't support the march. Not stopping anyone else.

hmmm · 09-02-2013 05:52PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Indicates the great support out there for the austerity programme I suppose.

Great support for living in the real world, and not expecting everyone to pay more tax to keep government spending and waste high.

markesmith · 09-02-2013 05:58PM

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

Oh dear Lord

If you're comparing the march today to those situations, I think I've made the right decision in staying at home and studying.

Each to their own and all that though. I just don't support the march. Not stopping anyone else.

I'm not saying that we're fighting apartheid or colonial rule. What I'm saying is that protest is a proven vehicle for getting results.

Good luck with your studying.

COYW · 09-02-2013 06:16PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Should have gotten the IFA to organise it.

The farmers never fail to put on a good protest

Farmers and the elderly are top class when it comes to protesting. No other section of society compares to them. I read Tony Blair's autobiography recently and he said straight out that the elderly were the toughest group he had to deal with. He used the word "vicious" to describe them, if I remember correctly.

ICTU claim that over 110,000 attended the marches, guards estimate that it was nearer 50,000. RTE report

road_high · 09-02-2013 06:17PM

Boombastic wrote: »

All hail our union overlords, they should award themselves a payrise with bonuses.

Thye already did...it's called "benchmarking"

The Waltzing Consumer · 09-02-2013 06:19PM

markesmith wrote: »

I'm not saying that we're fighting apartheid or colonial rule. What I'm saying is that protest is a proven vehicle for getting results.

Good luck with your studying.

Still... apartheid, Gandhi, Martin Luther King. box making allowance :rolleyes:

This protest is nothing to do with our debt, it is about public sector unions wanting to maintain a lifestyle the country cannot afford to pay. When you actually read the list of allowances some of these guys get and the strop they throw when this is challenged, it boggles the mind

road_high · 09-02-2013 06:19PM

hmmm wrote: »

Great support for living in the real world, and not expecting everyone to pay more tax to keep government spending and waste high.

Absolutely. This so-called "austerity" has been merely a nip and tuck to bring us someway in line with our EU as regards PS pay and Social Welfare. Still a long way to go in that regards.

Sparks43 · 09-02-2013 06:23PM

Quite a sizable crowd in Dublin today

Not too far off the 80k mark

Unions made a mess of it though terrible attitude towards the other groups that were joining in.

Quote of the day from a SIPTU steward to the household charge protesters who were in the middle of the siptu crowds

"Would you ever get to the back where you fucking belong"

mikemac1 · 09-02-2013 06:26PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Major flop. despite Beggs prediction earlier in the week that between 80,000-100,000 would turn up it looks like maybe a quarter of that number actually did!

Sparks43 wrote: »

Quite a sizable crowd in Dublin today

Not too far off the 80k mark

Which is correct?

You can't hide 60,000 people :eek:

road_high · 09-02-2013 06:26PM

Sparks43 wrote: »

Quite a sizable crowd in Dublin today

Not too far off the 80k mark

Unions made a mess of it though terrible attitude towards the other groups that were joining in.

Quote of the day from a SIPTU steward to the household charge protesters who were in the middle of the siptu crowds

"Would you ever get to the back where you fucking belong"

Was listening to the news there on Today FM nd they said the Gardai estimated 20-25k people in Dublin. Pretty pathetic if true.

Feb 9th Protest - will you be joining?

Comments