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Feb 9th Protest - will you be joining?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    How are the protests getting alone? I slept it out for my bus so missed the starting point of my local protest in Galway. But got the next bus in and ended up joining the protest crowd at their gathering place for about 10 minutes. There's a big sing song. A good crowd.

    How are the protests in Dublin, Cork, Limerick and the rest of the places that protests were due to be held?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 87 ✭✭tenton


    90% of those marching are paid by the taxpayer, and want to keep getting paid big amounts of money by the taxpayer.....funded of course by taxes from the private sector and by government borrowing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭squod


    tenton wrote: »
    90% of those marching are paid by the taxpayer, and want to keep getting paid big amounts of money by the taxpayer.....funded of course by taxes from the private sector and by government borrowing.

    That true or are you taking the piss assuming that's the case?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,949 ✭✭✭The Waltzing Consumer


    squod wrote: »
    That true or are you taking the piss assuming that's the case?

    I would be extremely surprised if this was not the case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭COYW


    I would be extremely surprised if this was not the case.

    I agree, it's a trade union march. It is all about limiting the damage to their membership.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭lockon...


    COYW wrote: »
    I agree, it's a trade union march. It is all about limiting the damage to their membership.

    This is what happens when you let the public sector unions in charge:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSh7WUK1GDc&feature=player_detailpage#t=12s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭markesmith


    Nope, not laziness. I don't like to waste my time p1ssing and moaning about something that is not going to change.

    I prefer to get on with my life.

    People who spend their efforts looking for work or looking for business opportunities or services that are missing or volunteering with charities or educating themselves or setting a new goal or task for themselves are spending their time much more wisely than marching on the streets yelling meaningless slogans "JOBS NOT DEBT JOBS NOT DEBT" Oh, gee never thought about that :rolleyes:

    Can't we do all these things though? Marching on the street is a show of strength. Can you not do your job/look for work, volunteer, donate, etc as well?

    It's weird that you hold everything else up as worthwhile activity, but
    p1ssing and moaning about something that is not going to change.

    yelling meaningless slogans

    is your definition of protest.

    Think Martin Luther King. Think the French Revolution. Think Gandhi. You don't have to piss and moan. You just have to be another person in the crowd of dissenters.

    Fianna Fail are apparently the biggest party in the state again.

    Something has to change, or it really will be a "will the last one out turn off the lights" scenario.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    How are the protests getting alone? I slept it out for my bus so missed the starting point of my local protest in Galway. But got the next bus in and ended up joining the protest crowd at their gathering place for about 10 minutes. There's a big sing song. A good crowd.

    How are the protests in Dublin, Cork, Limerick and the rest of the places that protests were due to be held?

    Major flop. despite Beggs prediction earlier in the week that between 80,000-100,000 would turn up it looks like maybe a quarter of that number actually did!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    25k people today. I was outside the Dail the night of the bank guarantee vote, less than 1,000. Too late people, too late.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Major flop. despite Beggs prediction earlier in the week that between 80,000-100,000 would turn up it looks like maybe a quarter of that number actually did!
    David Beggs is a cynical greedy useless hypocrit


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭20Cent


    tenton wrote: »
    90% of those marching are paid by the taxpayer, and want to keep getting paid big amounts of money by the taxpayer.....funded of course by taxes from the private sector and by government borrowing.

    Most ICTU members are private sector plus they are only the organisers plenty of other groups there.

    100,000 or so in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    How are the protests getting alone? I slept it out for my bus so missed the starting point of my local protest in Galway. But got the next bus in and ended up joining the protest crowd at their gathering place for about 10 minutes. There's a big sing song. A good crowd.

    How are the protests in Dublin, Cork, Limerick and the rest of the places that protests were due to be held?

    Huge protest in Waterford. It was really heartening to see so many people turn out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭Almaviva


    tenton wrote: »
    90% of those marching are paid by the taxpayer, and want to keep getting paid big amounts of money by the taxpayer.....funded of course by taxes from the private sector and by government borrowing.

    Indeed. Whingers and moaners just throwing the toys of the pram because life isnt as nice as they thought they had it.

    If it keeps them happy and makes them feel as if they are achieving something, even though it wont have the slightest impact on government policy, then I suppose it serves some good. A modern kind of bread and circuses for the populace.

    Same mentality that threw FF out of government, and now with pay cuts and conditions changes in the pipeline under Croke Park 2, think that getting FG and Lab out and FF back in is what is needed. Oh the innocence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    25000 in Dublin apparently. That's a pretty poor show from the public sector unions. Roll on Croke Park 2 when the taxpayer might begin to get some value for their taxes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭Almaviva


    It was really heartening to see so many people turn out.

    If there were crowds out, it makes me feel embarrassed to be Irish.
    Now if the event were a flop and no sizeable crowds materialised, I would have some renewed confidence in the future of this country and that its citizens might do the right thing for a change and dig themselves out of the mess they made of the previous 10 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    How are the protests getting alone? I slept it out for my bus so missed the starting point of my local protest in Galway. But got the next bus in and ended up joining the protest crowd at their gathering place for about 10 minutes. There's a big sing song. A good crowd.

    How are the protests in Dublin, Cork, Limerick and the rest of the places that protests were due to be held?



    Would guess that there was circa six to eight thousand at the Limerick protest as it passed below the building I was in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭lockon...


    Huge protest in Waterford. It was really heartening to see so many people turn out.

    2,000 - that's a bit embarrassing :o
    In Waterford, local estimates suggest around 2,000 people turned out for the rally, which began from the Glen, to Bridge St, onto The Quay and finished on John Roberts Square.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0209/366914-marches/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Should have gotten the IFA to organise it.

    The farmers never fail to put on a good protest :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭Almaviva


    lockon... wrote: »
    2,000 - that's a bit embarrassing :o

    Indicates the great support out there for the austerity programme I suppose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    All hail our union overlords, they should award themselves a payrise with bonuses.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    markesmith wrote: »
    Think Martin Luther King. Think the French Revolution. Think Gandhi. You don't have to piss and moan. You just have to be another person in the crowd of dissenters.

    Oh dear Lord

    If you're comparing the march today to those situations, I think I've made the right decision in staying at home and studying.

    Each to their own and all that though. I just don't support the march. Not stopping anyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Almaviva wrote: »
    Indicates the great support out there for the austerity programme I suppose.
    Great support for living in the real world, and not expecting everyone to pay more tax to keep government spending and waste high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭markesmith


    Oh dear Lord

    If you're comparing the march today to those situations, I think I've made the right decision in staying at home and studying.

    Each to their own and all that though. I just don't support the march. Not stopping anyone else.

    I'm not saying that we're fighting apartheid or colonial rule. What I'm saying is that protest is a proven vehicle for getting results.

    Good luck with your studying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭COYW


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Should have gotten the IFA to organise it.

    The farmers never fail to put on a good protest :p

    Farmers and the elderly are top class when it comes to protesting. No other section of society compares to them. I read Tony Blair's autobiography recently and he said straight out that the elderly were the toughest group he had to deal with. He used the word "vicious" to describe them, if I remember correctly.

    ICTU claim that over 110,000 attended the marches, guards estimate that it was nearer 50,000. RTE report


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,897 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Boombastic wrote: »
    All hail our union overlords, they should award themselves a payrise with bonuses.

    Thye already did...it's called "benchmarking" ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,949 ✭✭✭The Waltzing Consumer


    markesmith wrote: »
    I'm not saying that we're fighting apartheid or colonial rule. What I'm saying is that protest is a proven vehicle for getting results.

    Good luck with your studying.

    Still... apartheid, Gandhi, Martin Luther King. box making allowance :rolleyes:

    This protest is nothing to do with our debt, it is about public sector unions wanting to maintain a lifestyle the country cannot afford to pay. When you actually read the list of allowances some of these guys get and the strop they throw when this is challenged, it boggles the mind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,897 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    hmmm wrote: »
    Great support for living in the real world, and not expecting everyone to pay more tax to keep government spending and waste high.

    Absolutely. This so-called "austerity" has been merely a nip and tuck to bring us someway in line with our EU as regards PS pay and Social Welfare. Still a long way to go in that regards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Quite a sizable crowd in Dublin today

    Not too far off the 80k mark

    Unions made a mess of it though terrible attitude towards the other groups that were joining in.

    Quote of the day from a SIPTU steward to the household charge protesters who were in the middle of the siptu crowds

    "Would you ever get to the back where you fucking belong"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Major flop. despite Beggs prediction earlier in the week that between 80,000-100,000 would turn up it looks like maybe a quarter of that number actually did!
    Sparks43 wrote: »
    Quite a sizable crowd in Dublin today

    Not too far off the 80k mark

    Which is correct? :)

    You can't hide 60,000 people :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,897 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Sparks43 wrote: »
    Quite a sizable crowd in Dublin today

    Not too far off the 80k mark

    Unions made a mess of it though terrible attitude towards the other groups that were joining in.

    Quote of the day from a SIPTU steward to the household charge protesters who were in the middle of the siptu crowds

    "Would you ever get to the back where you fucking belong"

    Was listening to the news there on Today FM nd they said the Gardai estimated 20-25k people in Dublin. Pretty pathetic if true.


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