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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,562 eyescreamcone
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    Legitimising abortion, dismantling the concept of marriage and banishing faith education in Irish schools.

    Thats what its like in 'Liberal' Ireland...:(

    In a liberal Ireland nobody would be forced to partake in abortions, gay marriages and would be free to teach their children anything they like.

    However, in your 'traditional' land... ;)


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,066 Silvio.Dante
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    Yes or no: Did allowing interracial marriage dismantle the concept of marriage?.

    Of course not. Silly question...:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 Doctor Strange
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    Of course not. Silly question...:rolleyes:

    Well then, how is this different? All we're looking for is that two people that love each other can get ****ing married. Seriously, substitute the word "interracial" for "gay/homosexual" in your argument, and tell me that sits okay with you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,279 NuMarvel
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    Yes or no: Did allowing interracial marriage dismantle the concept of marriage? Cause I'm sure it was the same right-wing loons arguing such when that was being legalised.

    Let's be fair. These are a completely different set of right-wing loons. But they do all sound the same because they're using the same arguments.

    That said, I think allowing women to be regarded as equals in marriage instead of being the property of the man has done more to dismantle "traditional" marriage than anything else in the history of the institution.

    I miss the days when a woman's value could be measured in livestock... :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,562 eyescreamcone
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    And as for locking up "fallen women" in concentration camps/laundries...
    That's a good tradition that we should continue ;)


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  • Site Banned Posts: 4,066 Silvio.Dante
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    Well then, how is this different? All we're looking for is that two people that love each other can get ****ing married. Seriously, substitute the word "interracial" for "gay/homosexual" in your argument, and tell me that sits okay with you.

    The institution of marriage is between a man and a woman. Did this bit go over your head..?


  • Moderators Posts: 52,030 Delirium
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    The institution of marriage is between a man and a woman. Did this bit go over your head..?

    Incorrect. It varies by country.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 Nodin
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    The institution of marriage is between a man and a woman. Did this bit go over your head..?

    You mean the institution of marriage as practiced by - amongst others - the RCC.

    Marriage has generally been between a man and women or man and woman. More rarely its been between a woman and men or those of the same gender. Some cultures have/had no formal bonds at all. Marriage wasn't a sacrament and didn't require a priest until around the mid 1500's. It's therefore a young institution.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,066 Silvio.Dante
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    koth wrote: »
    Incorrect. It varies by country.


    Well the Right to Travel is there for anyone who wishes to avail of it...:)


  • Moderators Posts: 52,030 Delirium
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    Well the Right to Travel is there for anyone who wishes to avail of it...:)

    As is the right to amend existing legislation to recognise same-sex marriages. I think it's about time Ireland grew up and removed the "Right to Travel" as an excuse to put off doing what's necessary.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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  • Site Banned Posts: 4,066 Silvio.Dante
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    koth wrote: »
    As is the right to amend existing legislation to recognise same-sex marriages. I think it's about time Ireland grew up and removed the "Right to Travel" as an excuse to put off doing what's necessary.

    Good luck with that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,256 Hotblack Desiato
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    Truly, this one post shows the intolerance of the Liberal Agenda...

    You have paid me a great compliment Silvio, one that I am not worthy of, but thanks anyway :)

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,279 NuMarvel
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    Well the Right to Travel is there for anyone who wishes to avail of it...:)

    You'd rather force parents watch their children emigrate to find a place where they can live as equals than offer them that right here?


  • Moderators Posts: 52,030 Delirium
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    Good luck with that...

    It's inevitable that it will happen here. There are no good reasons that a civilized society shouldn't allow for it.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 Doctor Strange
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    The institution of marriage is between a man and a woman. Did this bit go over your head..?

    Can you justify this statement WITHOUT religion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,256 Hotblack Desiato
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    Can you justify this statement WITHOUT religion?

    and in any case, what we are talking about is civil marriage. Religion should butt out.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 Corkfeen
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    Good luck with that...

    Those evil liberalistas tend to win over time. Idiotic and archaic views such as that of David Quinn or John Waters are not shared by most people in Ireland . ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 Bannasidhe
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    Corkfeen wrote: »
    Those evil liberalistas tend to win over time. Idiotic and archaic views such as that of David Quinn or John Waters are not shared by most people in Ireland . ;)

    What kind of hat are liberalistas meant to wear? I would be horrified if I inadvertently wore the wrong one. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 Corkfeen
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    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    What kind of hat are liberalistas meant to wear? I would be horrified if I inadvertently wore the wrong one. :eek:

    A fedora, I personally go all out and dress like Jack Nicholson in Chinatown. (Nose plaster and all) Then I nefariously plot to take over the world and destroy marriage... T'is like The Pinky and Brain with cheap suits.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,066 Silvio.Dante
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    NuMarvel wrote: »
    You'd rather force parents watch their children emigrate to find a place where they can live as equals than offer them that right here?

    The parents can travel aswell...


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  • Site Banned Posts: 4,066 Silvio.Dante
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    Can you justify this statement WITHOUT religion?

    there you go again with the religion obsession...:rolleyes:


  • Moderators Posts: 52,030 Delirium
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    The parents can travel aswell...

    Charming, Ireland says GTFO to Irish same-sex couples and extended family. :rolleyes:

    I can't believe you could suggest such a facile answer to social policy.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 Nodin
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    there you go again with the religion obsession...:rolleyes:


    Can you justify the position without using a religous argument?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 Bannasidhe
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    Corkfeen wrote: »
    A fedora, I personally go all out and dress like Jack Nicholson in Chinatown. (Nose plaster and all) Then I nefariously plot to take over the world and destroy marriage... T'is like The Pinky and Brain with cheap suits.

    Damn. I've been wearing a trilby. :o:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,279 NuMarvel
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    The parents can travel aswell...

    Or, let's save them the money and the hassle, and just change the law here.

    And anyone who doesn't like it always has the right to travel. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 Doctor Strange
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    there you go again with the religion obsession...:rolleyes:

    That's a no then? Your cognitive and moral dissonance is quite saddening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 Doctor Strange
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    Also, if you have such a problem with Gay marriage, I have the perfect solution: Don't have one yourself :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 The Mad Hatter
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    koth wrote: »

    I can't believe you could suggest such a facile answer to social policy.

    I can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,256 Hotblack Desiato
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    Corkfeen wrote: »
    Those evil liberalistas tend to win over time. Idiotic and archaic views such as that of David Quinn or John Waters are not shared by most people in Ireland . ;)

    It's impossible to take either of them seriously. Quinn's naked careerism shines through everything he says. Waters is a professional contrarian, railing against the oldsters in the 80s and now fighting to save Mother Church from all those nasty liberals who believe in people making up their own minds :rolleyes:

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 4,066 Silvio.Dante
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    koth wrote: »
    Charming, Ireland says GTFO to Irish same-sex couples and extended family. :rolleyes:

    I can't believe you could suggest such a facile answer to social policy.

    The Status Quo works for me...


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