Ipsos MRBI poll: Fianna Fáil most popular party

Banjo String · 08-02-2013 11:07PM

jjbrien wrote: »

Be the shinners then for you.

Pearse Doherty was the only person who spoke sense on Wednesday night.

True.

omahaid · 08-02-2013 11:07PM

Fromthetrees wrote: »

If Fianna Fail are going to get back into power than I'm voting for and joining the most militant party there is be they far left, far right or republican or unionist.

Wont matter a ****e, once FF start promising tax cuts and offering section 23s again we'll be back to 2005 again.

Roger_007 · 08-02-2013 11:09PM

SamHall wrote: »

Pearse Doherty was the only person who spoke sense on Wednesday night.

True.

Yea, those guys know how to get money out of banks. Are the shiners going to issue a promissory note to Northern Bank.

3ndahalfof6 · 08-02-2013 11:13PM

omahaid wrote: »

Wont matter a ****e, once FF start promising tax cuts and offering section 23s again we'll be back to 2005 again.

And so the fools listen, just sell it back to britain, at least we will have someone else to blame, or they might decide to, that is all.

Lenin Skynard · 08-02-2013 11:13PM

Makes no odds to me whether it's the giant douche or the turd sandwich. It's surprising when people are outraged that FF might get into power again as if we've had some great change from FF, we've basically had the same thing.

Labour hold the balance of power and probably will for the next while unless they head a government with Sinn Fein as the junior partner. A Dail with SF/Labour on one side and FF/FG on the other would be the healthiest situation I think, regardless of who the government is.

Pompey Magnus · 08-02-2013 11:14PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

Yea, those guys know how to get money out of banks. Are the shiners going to issue a promissory note to Northern Bank.

Quick, get in a mention of Jean McConville and we can get this thread deflected nicely down the same path every single anti-Fianna Fail or anti-FG/Lab thread goes on here.

dxhound2005 · 08-02-2013 11:17PM

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

i agree with you. i was reading the other day that another deep recession is expected for 2024. these come in cycles and are engineered

what do you think people that own property but are selling (me) should do

Recessions certainly come and go. I'm not sure how many we have had in Ireland since independence but I read that there have been 47 recessions/depressions in the United States since 1790. So this is whole generations of recession engineers. It's time someone found out who they are and put a stop to it.

3ndahalfof6 · 08-02-2013 11:17PM

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Makes no odds to me whether it's the giant douche or the turd sandwich. It's surprising when people are outraged that FF might get into power again as if we've had some great change from FF, we've basically had the same thing.

Labour hold the balance of power and probably will for the next while unless they head a government with Sinn Fein as the junior partner. A Dail with SF/Labour on one side and FF/FG on the other would be the healthiest situation I think, regardless of who the government is.

While nothing will change in the outset, I agree, at least it would be something different, and the chance to see nothing will work untill it is stripped back to the bones, that is all.

Banjo String · 08-02-2013 11:17PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

Yea, those guys know how to get money out of banks. Are the shiners going to issue a promissory note to Northern Bank.

Blah blah blah, Jean McConville etc etc?

token101 · 08-02-2013 11:19PM

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

Quick, get in a mention of Jean McConville and we can get this thread deflected nicely down the same path every single anti-Fianna Fail or anti-FG/Lab thread goes on here.

So what we should just forget about everything Sinn Fein's done, and continues to do, just to hammer everyone else? The day Gerry Adams admits he was on the IRA Army Council is the day they become a credible party. Until then they're led by a pathological liar.

Roger_007 · 08-02-2013 11:23PM

SamHall wrote: »

Blah blah blah, Jean McConville etc etc?

That is a well-constructed argument.

3ndahalfof6 · 08-02-2013 11:23PM

This thread is proof nothing will or could change, one upmanship seems to be the rule of the day, that is all.

murphzor · 08-02-2013 11:25PM

AAHAHAHAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

token101 · 08-02-2013 11:26PM

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Labour hold the balance of power and probably will for the next while unless they head a government with Sinn Fein as the junior partner. A Dail with SF/Labour on one side and FF/FG on the other would be the healthiest situation I think, regardless of who the government is.

Labour are going to be decimated at the next election. I'd almost bet they'll get less seats than Sinn Fein, as sad as that is.

c_man · 08-02-2013 11:26PM

I better vote in my local FF gombeen. Sure if they're going to be in government, I want my gombeen front and centre, getting us road fixes and grants for economically question local festivals and whatnot.

Banjo String · 08-02-2013 11:28PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

That is a well-constructed argument.

Tbh with you, I've already declared who I'd like to see in government (even as a coalition party) I've not stated my opinion on SF either way.

I'm sick, sore, and bloody well tired though of every single thread criticizing either present or past Govts, continually going down the same route of going off topic by making some reference to SF, NB and Jean McConville.

Its tired, its played out and its bloody boring.

FF sold the country out, FG collected the cash (IMO)

3ndahalfof6 · 08-02-2013 11:33PM

SamHall wrote: »

Tbh with you, I've already declared who I'd like to see in government (even as a coalition party) I've not stated my opinion on SF either way.

I'm sick, sore, and bloody well tired though of every single thread criticizing either present or past Govts, continually going down the same route of going off topic by making some reference to SF, NB and Jean McConville.

Its tired, its played out and its bloody boring.

FF sold the country out, FG collected the cash (IMO)

Are collecting the cash,that is all.

omahaid · 08-02-2013 11:36PM

c_man wrote: »

I better vote in my local FF gombeen. Sure if they're going to be in government, I want my gombeen front and centre, getting us road fixes and grants for economically question local festivals and whatnot.

I like your style my man but to fair, isn't it time you got on the property ladder? I mean, rent is dead money, you're just paying someone elses mortgage.

books4sale · 08-02-2013 11:48PM

murphzor wrote: »

AAHAHAHAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

Ahhhhahaaha

The Fine FAilers are back, back I tells ya!

The people get what the people deserve.

armchair fusilier · 08-02-2013 11:48PM

What part of Fianna Fail's role in the meltdown of our economy are people not getting?

Brian Cowen increasing Government spending by more than 11% in 2007 and 2008 because it was an election year, thereby seriously overheating the economy and making the crash for worse than it otherwise would have been?

Fianna Fail's unique relationship with major property developers inflating the property bubble to such an extent that the construction industry ended up being one fifth of the economy, something which has never happened in any other developed country?

Ignoring repeated warnings from the Finance Department on risks of increasing public spending and the overheating of the construction sector?

The catastrophically misjudged bank guarantee?

...etc....etc.....etc....

Banjo String · 08-02-2013 11:54PM

armchair fusilier wrote: »

What part of Fianna Fail's role in the meltdown of our economy are people not getting?

Brian Cowen increasing Government spending by more than 11% in 2007 and 2008 because it was an election year, thereby seriously overheating the economy and making the crash for worse than it otherwise would have been?

Fianna Fail's unique relationship with major property developers inflating the property bubble to such an extent that the construction industry ended up being one fifth of the economy, something which has never happened in any other developed country?

Ignoring repeated warnings from the Finance Department on risks of increasing public spending and the overheating of the construction sector?

The catastrophically misjudged bank guarantee?

...etc....etc.....etc....

100% agreed.

While FG stood in the aisle condemning FF for not spending enough!

As bad as the other IMO.

retalivity · 09-02-2013 12:01AM

On one hand, its a shocking disgrace they are anywhere near popular.
On the other, its not at all when you look at the alternatives that there are.

They are all different sides of the same hairy sh1te.

jjbrien · 09-02-2013 12:21AM

retalivity wrote: »

On one hand, its a shocking disgrace they are anywhere near popular.
On the other, its not at all when you look at the alternatives that there are.

They are all different sides of the same hairy sh1te.

I get where your coming from on that but here is the thing. Ireland is not in charge of its own affairs. FF sold messed the whole country up and then sold us to the EU and IMF. People should never be allowed forget this, but it seems they are starting to forget. FG at the moment unfortunately have to go along with the programme which FF agreed to before it left power so of course they are stuck having to do FF's policies and plans whist FF sits on the other side of the dail using catchy sound bites to grab peoples attention and draw peoples attention away from the fact it was them who got us into this mess. FG really should just tell FF its you mess clean it up.

No matter who gets into power until we get out of this bailout Ireland doesnt run itself and we have FF to thank for that.

Banjo String · 09-02-2013 12:27AM

jjbrien wrote: »

I get where your coming from on that but here is the thing. Ireland is not in charge of its own affairs. FF sold messed the whole country up and then sold us to the EU and IMF. People should never be allowed forget this, but it seems they are starting to forget. FG at the moment unfortunately have to go along with the programme which FF agreed to before it left power so of course they are stuck having to do FF's policies and plans whist FF sits on the other side of the dail using catchy sound bites to grab peoples attention and draw peoples attention away from the fact it was them who got us into this mess. FG really should just tell FF its you mess clean it up.

No matter who gets into power until we get out of this bailout Ireland doesnt run itself and we have FF to thank for that.

So, FG knew fine well that the 'not another red cent' speech was horse shoite before the election?

In it for the money.

galwayrush · 09-02-2013 12:30AM

FF manage to make the current lot look extremely competent. We'll be paying for FF'a **** ups for generations yet looks like we have enough extremely stupid people who want them to do it all again.

jjbrien · 09-02-2013 12:35AM

SamHall wrote: »

So, FG knew fine well that the 'not another red cent' speech was horse shoite before the election?

In it for the money.

Its easy to say that when you are not in power when you have to be responsible the situation changes.

I did vote FG and Labor in the last election however I dont think I will vote FF, FG or Labor next time. I will vote for whoever I think will do the best for us. At the moment its looking like SF which I would never have considered before

the groutch · 09-02-2013 12:47AM

bear in mind this poll was before promnight, and FF's voting in favour of the rushed bill will probably drag their support down a good bit.

techdiver · 09-02-2013 01:06AM

The failing of Democracy is that two idiots can out vote a genius!

Doc Ruby · 09-02-2013 01:23AM

jjbrien wrote: »

At the moment its looking like SF which I would never have considered before

Agreed. I'm awfully tired of the merry go round enriching a few aspiring dynasties and the grey vote that enables them. I've got your vote right here, laddies.

castor 1 · 09-02-2013 01:25AM

techdiver wrote: »

The failing of Democracy is that two idiots can out vote a genius!

And we have so many idiots in this country that it is depressing !

Ipsos MRBI poll: Fianna Fáil most popular party

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