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Are Golliwogs racist?

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  • #32
    ITS_A_BADGER
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭ITS_A_BADGER


    They're not the best water type pokemon but there are better


  • #33
    Noel Kinsella
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 407 ✭✭Noel Kinsella


    Whats the story with "black boards" in schools are they gone too ? I heard they had to be called chalk boards now is that true ? White boards are still good old white boards though............................


  • #34
    mikeym
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    Any pictures of a gollywog???


  • #35
    GoldenTickets
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    vicwatson wrote: »
    Arnott's are racist !

    Golliwogs.jpg

    Over 20 years out of date... I'd still go for one.


  • #36
    Noel Kinsella
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 407 ✭✭Noel Kinsella


    There is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too much PC crap nowadays when the Irish travel to other countries we have to blend in with that countries culture but when foreigners come here it seems we still have to blend in with their culture even though most DONT want to integrate with OUR culture. IMO.


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  • #37
    The Road Runner
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    Well done Noel. Keep them coals stoked :rolleyes:


  • #38
    crockholm
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    OP mentions the word "leprecons", would that be a hate-filled neologist slur upon Irish right-wing conservatives ; )


  • #39
    Duck Soup
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  • #40
    Archeron
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    I was in a shop a couple of years ago, and was surprised to see a large round basket full of golliwogs on special offer in the middle of the floor. They were expensive too, considering it was meant to be a special.

    Anyone know what the collective term is for a group of golliwogs?


  • #41
    old hippy
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    Noel Kinsella wrote: »
    There is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too much PC crap nowadays when the Irish travel to other countries we have to blend in with that countries culture but when foreigners come here it seems we still have to blend in with their culture even though most DONT want to integrate with OUR culture. IMO.


    If, by your culture, you mean racial stereotypes, then blending in, isn't always easy.

    Used to be part of the culture here in the UK, we were called paddys, micks and all deemed potential terrorists. That's not so long ago. Also, they didn't much like us as paying guests in B&Bs. No blacks, no dogs, no Irish.

    I bet you really miss the rare oul' times, just reeking of culture, eh?

    Golliwogs, blacking up and the days of Bernard Manning have been rightfully disposed of. The same goes for anti-Irish stereotypes.

    Nothing PC in the slightest about it, either.


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  • #42
    Pawpad666
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    Archeron wrote: »
    I was in a shop a couple of years ago, and was surprised to see a large round basket full of golliwogs on special offer in the middle of the floor. They were expensive too, considering it was meant to be a special.

    Anyone know what the collective term is for a group of golliwogs?

    A golly of Gollywegs.


  • #43
    nlgbbbblth
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    Noel Kinsella wrote: »
    Whats the story with "black boards" in schools are they gone too ? I heard they had to be called chalk boards now is that true ? White boards are still good old white boards though............................

    Complete myth usually uttered by people who say "it's political correctness gone mad".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness#False_accusations

    Nothing wrong with using black.

    1) Ever heard of James Brown?
    SAY IT LOUD I'M BLACK AND I'M PROUD.

    2) Black Music awards

    3) A book I saw recently - "Growing up black in Britain".

    On the subject of golliwogs - they were removed from the Enid Blyton books along with a load of other changes / edits back in the early 1990s.

    As a member of the EBAS I don't agree with it. The books were written in a different era and the language used reflects that time. Censoring the past is bullsh*t.

    If you want to buy Enid Blyton books then buy second hand copies printed no later than 1989. Buying them new is foolish.


  • #44
    minidazzler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    eeny meany mineie mo...catch a ni**er by the toe.....

    God damn parents...


  • #45
    Hedgemeister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Hedgemeister


    On a related subject I saw an old (1950s) advertisement today for British Triumph Roadster bicycles:
    It read " Go gay with a Triumph" and "Triumph - The gay bicycle for Jeanagers"
    The ad was aimed at the American Market , but they sold by the thousand in Ireland.
    (No Gollywogs though)


  • #46
    Corruptedmorals
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    Hedgemeister wrote: »
    On a related subject I saw an old (1950s) advertisement today for British Triumph Roadster bicycles:
    It read " Go gay with a Triumph" and "Triumph - The gay bicycle for Jeanagers"
    The ad was aimed at the American Market , but they sold by the thousand in Ireland.
    (No Gollywogs though)


    Eh..gay had a different meaning back in the day. Gay is all over Blyton's books. And A-Wear used to be called Gay Wear.


  • #47
    onerone
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 28 ✭onerone


    well the golly was made in Australia according to the pic so i guess it could be racist just like the no irish thing a couple years ago


  • #48
    CollardGreens
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    New word to me! Only golly I can think of is that song "Good Golly Miss Molly" that was popular in the 50's. Gomer Pile on The Andy Griffith Show use to say Golly a lot and it had nothing to do with food or a person. It was more of a "Gee Whiz" comment.


    We have candy called Goobers, that is also known as a booger in slang. We have another candy called Whoppers and they are big round things that look like large bunny turds (just wanted to share....hee hee) ;)


  • #49
    Hedgemeister
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    We called them yokes Gob-stoppers & sugar-sticks called Peggy's Legs!
    (They cost a penny which should've gone to the teacher for the Black Babies in Africa)


  • #50
    Henlars67
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    They are considered racist, no idea why. Some well-off white person who spends their lives getting offended on behalf of others probably decided that black people should be offended by them and that was that.


    This woman was arrested for 'racially aggravated harassment' for having one in her window
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8746049/Neighbours-row-over-golliwog-in-the-window.html


  • #51
    old hippy
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    Henlars67 wrote: »
    They are considered racist, no idea why. Some well-off white person who spends their lives getting offended on behalf of others probably decided that black people should be offended by them and that was that.


    This woman was arrested for 'racially aggravated harassment' for having one in her window
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8746049/Neighbours-row-over-golliwog-in-the-window.html

    Why don't you ask a black friend or colleague next time how they feel about golliwogs?


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  • #52
    Henlars67
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    Maybe white people should get offended by Barbie a dolls.

    Anyone who gets offended by a doll is an idiot.


  • #53
    old hippy
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    Henlars67 wrote: »
    Maybe white people should get offended by Barbie a dolls.

    Anyone who gets offended by a doll is an idiot.

    Anyone who doesn't understand the offense caused by golliwogs is an idiot.


  • #54
    Henlars67
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭Henlars67


    old hippy wrote: »
    Anyone who doesn't understand the offense caused by golliwogs is an idiot.

    I'm sick of the Everyone is offended by Everything Brigade.

    Trying to find racism where it doesn't exist is pathetic


  • #55
    old hippy
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    Henlars67 wrote: »
    I'm sick of the Everyone is offended by Everything Brigade.

    Trying to find racism where it doesn't exist is pathetic

    And being ignorant about it is pathetic.

    Ask your black mates or colleagues if they find it offensive.


  • #56
    Death and Taxes
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    Yeah, you'd hear them coming out with some fierce insults

    this is true, I once heard a a Gollywog call a vertically challenged human who used a lot of expletives a "fukkin dwarf". :D


  • #57
    crockholm
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    I would say that they are from a time past.

    not equating them with racism and not saying they don't cause offence,just from a time past.

    whatever insecurities people have about race, it won't be helped or hindered by some "made in siam" cotton throwback.

    Now,im off to punch da sh!t outta a lucky charms box


  • #58
    my my my
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    remeber theres only one race and thats the human race ok


  • #59
    Henlars67
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    old hippy wrote: »
    And being ignorant about it is pathetic.

    Ask your black mates or colleagues if they find it offensive.

    explain why it's offensive.
    it's just a f*****g doll


  • #60
    The Th!ng
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭The Th!ng


    The Golliwog Jam Jar labels were stopped because some good for nothing, politically correct, **** stain found them offensive.


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  • #61
    Death and Taxes
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    Noel Kinsella wrote: »
    There is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too much PC crap nowadays when the Irish travel to other countries we have to blend in with that countries culture but when foreigners come here it seems we still have to blend in with their culture even though most DONT want to integrate with OUR culture. IMO.

    Utter rubbish!
    Please define OUR culture , actually please define who the OUR are!


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