Loungers who Lunch; Cake, Bovril and Penguins...

Lyaiera · 01-02-2013 04:34PM

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

\m/ ( >.<) \m/

That was playing on the bus this morning. It was good.

I got bitten by some insect last week. I was at the doctors this morning for something else and said the swelling hadn't gone down. (I knew what was coming.) It's infected and I'm now on antibiotics. It's good in a strange way. I couldn't afford to go out this weekend and this somehow makes it easier on me.

Also, CC, I know that fear. I think I've seen my father truly terrified twice in my life (that I can think off of the top of my head.) Once when my sister was a toddler, fell and cut her head and had to go to hospital for stitches. And when a stray, almost feral dog attacked our dog. I saw the fight and my father looking for some way to stop it. And when it ended him picking our dog up, carrying him inside and checking him all over for wounds. I think he sat on the floor for an hour with our dog keeping him calm as he was worried the dog would have a reaction to the stress.

Whispered · 01-02-2013 04:34PM

OkayWhatever wrote: »

Does the Berry tea and the likes taste like tea tea?? I wanna try some but I really don't like tea

Not at all.

xLexie · 01-02-2013 04:37PM

Whispered wrote: »

There is a huge difference in dog aggression and human aggression, different motivations, different reasons etc. I'm sorry I don't want to be a bitch, but attitudes like "it could be a child next" causes so many dogs who had a fight with another to end up in pounds or rescues.

I really am sorry, I know that is coming across like I'm having a go. I'm genuinely not, I just can't think of a nicer way to put it. (please forgive me )

I disagree, tbh. If any dog belonging to me showed any sort of aggression, I would be extra wary of the dog in question. I would not be waiting for the dog to snap at a child before being extra vigilant. I love dogs, but it wouldn't be a risk id personally be willing to take.

For example, we have three dogs. One of those dogs was a stray that wandered in pregnant. We kept her and she gets on fine with our other two dogs but she will attack the neighbours dogs if they come onto our property. She's a jack Russell and I've seen her literally hanging out of the Newfoundland next door, she caught him by the neck. Now, you can bet she is removed from any situations where there's children involved. I wouldn't trust her around them and am not prepared to wait until it's a child she's hanging out of.

Whispered · 01-02-2013 04:41PM

xLexie wrote: »

I disagree, tbh. If any dog belonging to me showed any sort of aggression, I would be extra wary of the dog in question. I would not be waiting for the dog to snap at a child before being extra vigilant. I love dogs, but it wouldn't be a risk id personally be willing to take.

For example, we have three dogs. One of those dogs was a stray that wandered in pregnant. We kept her and she gets on fine with our other two dogs but she will attack the neighbours dogs if they come onto our property. She's a jack Russell and I've seen her literally hanging out of the Newfoundland next door, she caught him by the neck. Now, you can bet she is removed from any situations where there's children involved. I wouldn't trust her around them and am not prepared to wait until it's a child she's hanging out of.

Well you can disagree, but professionals say the same thing. Dog aggression (not area guarding or barrier aggression) is different to human aggression.

Of course if you have a snappy dog you don't leave her with kids. Neither of my two show any aggression full stop, but they are never near kids either unless very closely supervised.

EDIT: I guess what I'm trying to say it that CC had a horrible experience in which a dog tried to attack her dog. There is very little to suggest that the dog would attack a person, never mind a child. The automatic assumption that a dog who attacks another dog is a danger to people is one which causes many dogs to be put to sleep, or gotten rid of.

cdaly_ · 01-02-2013 04:49PM

Whispered wrote: »

I love grocery shopping. I need to come up with an easy, casual lunch type food which involves chicken breasts and will be served to someone who loves to cook and is pretty good at it. So throwing a powered sachet of curry into a pot won't cut it. Also I'm working until about 10 mins before they arrive, so it will have to be simple enough to do with guests in the house and not take hours.

Wraps. Cut the breasts up and marinade them for the day. Then coarsely chop onions and red peppers. Fry up on the pan and serve with sweet chilli sauce...

xLexie · 01-02-2013 04:54PM

I've been bitten by a lurcher (on the bum, very embarrassing) who lived on the same road as me. The dog attacked my jack Russell on two occasions beforehand and savaged a red setter and left him for dead, would have probably killed him had another farmer not scared him off. The owners of the lurcher were notified by my parents both times my dog was attacked, and by the owners of the red setter BEFORE I was bitten. The dog went on to kill another jack Russell, and they finally got rid of him when he killed a heap of sheep and they got stung with a bill.

I'm not suggesting all dogs who show aggression be gotten rid of, or dumped, but I do believe extra care should be taken when they show they are/can be aggressive.

Whispered · 01-02-2013 04:54PM

cdaly_ wrote: »

Wraps. Cut the breasts up and marinade them for the day. Then coarsely chop onions and red peppers. Fry up on the pan and serve with sweet chilli sauce...

Thanks!

What marinade would you suggest? also how long do you fry chicken for?

Whispered · 01-02-2013 05:00PM

xLexie wrote: »

I'm not suggesting all dogs who show aggression be gotten rid of, or dumped, but I do believe extra care should be taken when they show they are/can be aggressive.

Oh I know you're not

I sometimes get a bit passionate about dogs, but it's all down to how much I love 'em, so apologies.

Some of the reasons you see for dogs being killed or dumped are so ridiculous. Being afraid that the dog will attack a family member because he had a fight with a dog is a very common one. And I think myths like that spread so easily. Like, when I started raw feeding my dogs people who have kept dogs for years warned me to be careful because it would "give them a taste for blood". There is so much misinformation out there and it's always the dogs who suffer for it.

I know of 2 lovely little JRTs who were killed during 2012 because they got into a fight. The reason the person gave was because she was worried for her kids. A little scuffle over something silly led the two family pets to be destroyed. It was heartbreaking.

xLexie · 01-02-2013 05:10PM

I wasn't suggesting dogs who get into fights be destroyed!!

more of a "alert the owners because next time it might not be a dog", just so they'd keep an extra eye on him or make sure he was more secure and not wandering around alone especially when he has showed signs of aggression. You iust never know. I agree with you however, it wouldn't be a reason to have the dog destroyed or put into the pound, more so just be vigilant.

Lyaiera · 01-02-2013 05:17PM

Whispered wrote: »

I know of 2 lovely little JRTs who were killed during 2012 because they got into a fight. The reason the person gave was because she was worried for her kids. A little scuffle over something silly led the two family pets to be destroyed. It was heartbreaking.

Or the classic toddler situation where the dog is gotten rid of because it growled at the kid. What did the child do? Oh it kicked at the dog, scraped the dog's eye, bit the dogs tail.

A friend's family breeds dogs. They sold one to a family with a young kid. They gave them the calmest dog they had in the litter and spent hours drilling them on how to handle the dog and how to get their child and dog co-operating. They brought the dog back two months later saying it was too energetic in the house. They've been breeding dogs for decades and recognised instantly why the dog was "too energetic with the child." They had literally never walked the dog. Their idea of walking the dog was to let it into the small back garden to jump about for ten minutes. How did they find this out? Partially the development of the dog, it was stunted in it's growth and of course when they asked "How much did you walk the puppy?" the child answered before the parents had a chance to shut him up.

They've pretty much given up on breeding. They say there's too few respectable dog owners anymore. No matter how many times they tell families that if they're getting their first dog they should go to a shelter and the staff will give them a calm and friendly, easily manageable dog who is good with kids they always want purebreds. Also they found people were going to puppy farms for their "purebreds" rather than going with breeders who actually cared for the puppies, who wouldn't separate them from their mother until they were ready (as in they'd actually have to wait for their puppy and they couldn't get it on demand) and who had paid for the dogs' vaccinations.

IvyTheTerrible · 01-02-2013 05:17PM

Woop Woop just found out I got admitted to the interview stage of the four "concours" I applied for! Ok so did an average of 100 other people for each BUT STILL, no p.f.o.

Now to buy an outfit.

Cerulean Chicken · 01-02-2013 05:21PM

It's the ridiculous fear that is so crazy and shocks you. I had my headphones on too and I didn't pull them out because that would be seconds lost trying to pull her away, so stupidly I felt even more alone and scared because I couldn't hear my surroundings, only the dog barking over the music. You know when you can feel yourself getting hysterical but know that you don't have time for it because you have to react. I know they say you shouldn't pick up a dog if another dog is at it but if I could have picked her up and ran with her I would, she's 30ish kg so I was just trying to pull on her collar, can't lift her.

It's "funny", if that's the word. I'm not remotely tired from the C25k walk I just did, but mentally exhausted from that few seconds of it.

People blaming dogs when a dog defends itself drives me mad. Like the time the postman screamed at me from the end of my driveway that he would report our dog if she "attacked" him again. She had barked at him from about 8ft away, where she was behind the fence and couldn't get at him if she had wanted to. Told him I'd bloody show him what attack meant, hehe, oops.

Whispered · 01-02-2013 05:22PM

Lyaiera wrote: »

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They've pretty much given up on breeding. They say there's too few respectable dog owners anymore. No matter how many times they tell families that if they're getting their first dog they should go to a shelter and the staff will give them a calm and friendly, easily manageable dog who is good with kids they always want purebreds. Also they found people were going to puppy farms for their "purebreds" rather than going with breeders who actually cared for the puppies, who wouldn't separate them from their mother until they were ready (as in they'd actually have to wait for their puppy and they couldn't get it on demand) and who had paid for the dogs' vaccinations.

It would be a shame if they gave up because they sound like exactly the type of breeders people should be going to!

I'm going swimming (bobbling) this evening. I have 50 mins to eat something, have a shower and make sure I'm swimsuit ready and tidy the kitchen.

xLexie · 01-02-2013 05:24PM

Lyaiera wrote: »

Also they found people were going to puppy farms for their "purebreds" rather than going with breeders who actually cared for the puppies, who wouldn't separate them from their mother until they were ready (as in they'd actually have to wait for their puppy and they couldn't get it on demand) and who had paid for the dogs' vaccinations.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Anybody who would go to a puppy farm and get pups aren't fit to have a dog! :mad: so cruel

Lyaiera · 01-02-2013 05:34PM

Whispered wrote: »

It would be a shame if they gave up because they sound like exactly the type of breeders people should be going to!

It's the same with the horse industry, or it was during the boom years. Far too many people thinking it'd be a laugh to own a racehorse (and irresponsible stables allowing it.) Very few horses make it as racehorses. A good few will make it as point-to-pointers and in hunting and trekking but there were loads of "racehorses" where people abandoned them to stables that were left with no income to maintain the horse and were left to do the inevitable.

The idea of owning a horse because you like horses and want to have a canter around on the same horse week in, week out was foreign to these people. It was something to talk about at dinner parties and once the realities of horse ownership started they ran as far as they could.

IvyTheTerrible · 01-02-2013 05:39PM

Lyaiera wrote: »

It's the same with the horse industry, or it was during the boom years. Far too many people thinking it'd be a laugh to own a racehorse (and irresponsible stables allowing it.) Very few horses make it as racehorses. A good few will make it as point-to-pointers and in hunting and trekking but there were loads of "racehorses" where people abandoned them to stables that were left with no income to maintain the horse and were left to do the inevitable.

The idea of owning a horse because you like horses and want to have a canter around on the same horse week in, week out was foreign to these people. It was something to talk about at dinner parties and once the realities of horse ownership started they ran as far as they could.

Yeah, we went from 500 horses a year slaughtered to 7500 last year. And then we wonder where the horse in our burgers come from (they say it came from Poland but I'm not convinced).

Princess Peach · 01-02-2013 06:56PM

I'm looking super fancy for dinner tonight. Now we're just going for burgers but I don't get out much

daenerysstormborn3 · 01-02-2013 07:00PM

My order from Woodies never arrived and they didn't ring me. I am cross :mad:

And, I ordered stuff from feelunique last week and they're fairly fast with delivery but there was no sign of it, until today, with a massive "opened for inspection by customs at an post" sticker on it. Rest of my order is still missing, who knows what they're doing with it!

01-02-2013 07:17PM

Fcuking tummy bug or something fcuks sake :mad::mad::mad:
At least I can walk again

x Purple Pawprints x · 01-02-2013 07:17PM

Bought myself a new phone!!

PhysiologyRocks · 01-02-2013 07:19PM

PhysiologyRocks wrote: »

You should read the anthropological studies of the famous anthropologists named James and Zoe*.

This dates back to the nineteenth century. In less industrialialised parts of the world, rural folk often didn't understand the difference between a barn and a house. As a result, they would often come home to the barn instead of the house at the end of a long slog on the farm.

Instead of sitting upon the settee with their elderly relatives, farmers would curl up on a bale of hay with a farm animal (for example, a horse, or the recently extinct mamblemoose**).

As a result of the exhaustion and confusion that caused an excess of time to be spent in the company of animals, people developed some odd eating habits. Some of these have persisted over the centuries.

*James and Zoe are totally real anthropologists and not at all names of the offspring of some loungers.

**Stay tuned for the history of the mamblemoose.

As promised...

The mamblemoose (gerfunculus mamblus moosei) is a quadruped. It is believed that it originated in Russia - earliest mamblemoose remains have been located there (followed most closely by Cuba, for reasons unknown).

It is postulated that the mamblemoose was originally wild, but hopelessly dopey and friendly. As a result, it was easily domesticated. Some Russians kept mamblemeese as pets. More farmed them for their delicious milk. Nobody could really bring themselves to kill a mamblemoose for meat or fur. Anyway, it was thought that their meat would be somewhat bland due to their diet, as the mamblemoose only enjoys water and raw potato skins.

The Russians sold mamblemeese to foreigners, and they were bred far and wide. Soon, they were found in farms all over the world. They were easy-going, and tolerated all manners of climate. They were popular because they had extremely soft coats, cow-like eyes and elephantine trunks.

However, as mentioned, the mamblemoose was rather dopey. As a result, they simply forgot to breed. They all died out. However, an elderly mamblemoose is one of the sweetest pets available and they all brought immense joy to their owners in their old age.

Ella · 01-02-2013 07:21PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Fcuking tummy bug or something fcuks sake :mad::mad::mad:
At least I can walk again

Ah no

feel better soon x

herisson · 01-02-2013 07:55PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Fcuking tummy bug or something fcuks sake :mad::mad::mad:
At least I can walk again

hope you feel better soon! X

Working 9 to 6 tomorrow with a lovely 30 break at 2 oh joys...they always call when I'm in no mood to work!

And my laser card stopped working today. I've been waiting for 2 weeks to get a new one but its still not here so no monies til Monday at the earliest

FouxDaFaFa · 01-02-2013 08:03PM

Princess Peach wrote: »

I'm looking super fancy for dinner tonight. Now we're just going for burgers but I don't get out much

I love this.

I went to the cinema the last night and was like "feck it, I'm putting on a dress". Had a great time prancing around the place.

Cerulean Chicken · 01-02-2013 08:22PM

I've lost 5lbs! I'm 10 stone 7! Woop!

daenerysstormborn3 · 01-02-2013 08:27PM

I have totally got my gym bug back. Didn't go tonight because I'm having a night off and I'm a bit achy from the week (good achy though) and I'm missing it. I'll be there tomorrow and I'm planning my day around it. Love feeling so motivated

Well done CC. Sorry to hear about your ordeal earlier, hope you and the doggie are okay

Cerulean Chicken · 01-02-2013 08:32PM

pixiebean22 wrote: »

I have totally got my gym bug back. Didn't go tonight because I'm having a night off and I'm a bit achy from the week (good achy though) and I'm missing it. I'll be there tomorrow and I'm planning my day around it. Love feeling so motivated

Well done CC. Sorry to hear about your ordeal earlier, hope you and the doggie are okay

Thanks! God it feels good, and I've a curvy-ish bum for the first time in my life, just from two weeks of c25k, it's fascinating

Celebrating by stuffing my face with boyfriend's amazing fajitas, rice and sour cream? Yes please

confusticated · 01-02-2013 08:40PM

Dad was considering breeding our cocker spaniel when we got her first, but he realised really quickly that he'd end up following people home to see how they treated the puppies and then taking them back if they weren't good enough to them! So she's neutered now.

Hope you're okay CC, it's horrible when people with dogs leave their gates open - first, because it's dangerous for cars, cyclists, people and other dogs, but also there were lots on a road I used to babysit on who left their dogs roam around with the gates open, but I never saw them walking them. Open gates aren't a substitute for walks!

shalalala · 01-02-2013 08:44PM

Reading this article. I think a little bit of me has died inside.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/9828589/Children-and-the-culture-of-pornography-Boys-will-ask-you-every-day-until-you-say-yes.html
I am no prude, I want children but honestly. Would they stay children for long? When I was 15 I had never even been kissed and this is saying that girls are exchanging blow jobs for money?

01-02-2013 08:48PM

shalalala wrote: »

Reading this article. I think a little bit of me has died inside.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/9828589/Children-and-the-culture-of-pornography-Boys-will-ask-you-every-day-until-you-say-yes.html
I am no prude, I want children but honestly. Would they stay children for long? When I was 15 I had never even been kissed and this is saying that girls are exchanging blow jobs for money?

I think it's scaremongering a bit. They haven't just discovered hormones just because of the internet. Going by what I heard in my school, all sorts was going on when I was that age.
If you bring them up with self confidence, explain the dangers of having videos taken of you and all over the internet, have a lot of frank talks with them, you'll be doing fine.

Loungers who Lunch; Cake, Bovril and Penguins...

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