The LUAS is a bloody joke

saiint · 31-01-2013 03:16PM

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Decent people have to pay higher fares due to the sheer numbers of those who don't pay. Using a service without paying for it is theiving, and all theives are scumbags. I would make an exception to that statement for those who steal to survive, but that's not the case here.

so in this case all junkies are not scum

they steal to survive because the amount of heroin they take , if they stopped suddenly they could die from withdraw , it all makes sense now :pac:

paddy147 · 31-01-2013 03:18PM

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Decent people have to pay higher fares due to the sheer numbers of those who don't pay. Using a service without paying for it is theiving, and all theives are scumbags. I would make an exception to that statement for those who steal to survive, but that's not the case here.

Have you personally done a survey to back up your post.

How do you know that a person who just walks onto a Luas isnt decent and hasnt got a leap card,or a weekly or monthly travel pass or a free travel pass (disability pass)??????

How nice of you to look down your nose though and prejudge with such a lovely post.:(

Gumbo · 31-01-2013 03:20PM

dttq wrote: »

Seriously how many muppets randomly waltz onto this taxpayer funded construct without paying the fare? I'd imagine it loses a hell of a lot of money given the amount of people that don't even pay to use it. Haven't the geniuses at Dublin Corporation not considered erecting barriers with ticket gates to ensure that it is no longer a hope on, hope off freeby service so many seem to take it for?

These people you see just getting on may have already tagged on using their leapcard or yearly travel pass

Duggys Housemate · 31-01-2013 03:28PM

kceire wrote: »

These people you see just getting on may have already tagged on using their leapcard or yearly travel pass

The machines vend a ticket for a leap card read.

Amirani · 31-01-2013 03:29PM

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

The machines vend a ticket for a leap card read.

No, that's only for top-ups.

Death and Taxes · 31-01-2013 03:47PM

dttq wrote: »

Seriously how many muppets randomly waltz onto this taxpayer funded construct without paying the fare? I'd imagine it loses a hell of a lot of money given the amount of people that don't even pay to use it. Haven't the geniuses at Dublin Corporation not considered erecting barriers with ticket gates to ensure that it is no longer a hope on, hope off freeby service so many seem to take it for?

1. It doesn't lose money.
2. Dublin City Council have nothing to do with it.
3. The cost of building barriers re designing platforms and employing ticket staff would lead to overall fare increases for everyone.

That said more ticket inspectors security staff are needed, especically on the red line.

Death and Taxes · 31-01-2013 03:49PM

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Decent people have to pay higher fares due to the sheer numbers of those who don't pay. Using a service without paying for it is theiving, and all theives are scumbags. I would make an exception to that statement for those who steal to survive, but that's not the case here.

Any evidence ,data to back that up.
If a paedophile pays for his ticket, does that make him decent?

davet82 · 31-01-2013 03:52PM

ye have to pay on the luas?!? :eek:

Birneybau · 31-01-2013 03:52PM

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

The machines vend a ticket for a leap card read.

They don't

April O Neill · 31-01-2013 03:54PM

greenflash wrote: »

I once saw a Northern Irish singer songwriter (who famously wrote the theme to a popular UK-made Irish sitcom) get reefed at Ranelagh for LUAS fare evasion. The feeling was divine. Comedy at its best as I'd have been nabbed if he wasn't.

I really hope this is true because he's a smug twat whose sh1t music isn't good enough for him to carry himself like that. :pac:

stevenmu · 31-01-2013 03:55PM

Boombastic wrote: »

I don't get it - the luas or the punchline

They built the Luas system with a punch-line, but they never connected it up to the rest of the joke.

RainyDay · 31-01-2013 04:02PM

greenflash wrote: »

I once saw a Northern Irish singer songwriter (who famously wrote the theme to a popular UK-made Irish sitcom) get reefed at Ranelagh for LUAS fare evasion. The feeling was divine. Comedy at its best as I'd have been nabbed if he wasn't.

Perfect time to whip out your camera-phone.

dttq wrote: »

Seriously how many muppets randomly waltz onto this taxpayer funded construct without paying the fare? I'd imagine it loses a hell of a lot of money given the amount of people that don't even pay to use it. Haven't the geniuses at Dublin Corporation not considered erecting barriers with ticket gates to ensure that it is no longer a hope on, hope off freeby service so many seem to take it for?

Dublin Corporation ceased to exist around 1990. It was replaced by Dublin City Council, who have absolutely nothing to do with running the Luas.

Franticfrank · 31-01-2013 04:04PM

The Luas is great and the hop on/off system is the norm across much of Europe. Try the metro in Berlin for example - its an honesty system. Most of the profit lost of fare dodgers is recouped by the guys they catch.

Muckie · 31-01-2013 04:05PM

NiallSparky wrote: »

No, that's only for top-ups.

You can buy and top up Leapcards from luas & Irish Rail TVMs

31-01-2013 04:11PM

saiint wrote: »

always hop on hop off
never been caught
in saying that i technically pay for it through tax so it should be free!!!!
also if any inspectors get on ( or orange monkeys ) i just hop off their big asian fellas most of the time so they dont exactly try running after you :L

Scum attitude TBH.

I don't call people scum here, but the actions above are the actions of scum.

Daith · 31-01-2013 04:32PM

kceire wrote: »

These people you see just getting on may have already tagged on using their leapcard or yearly travel pass

Though what's to stop people from not tagging on with their leap card (bar their honesty of course). Can the inspectors read their card to see if they tagged on?

RainyDay · 31-01-2013 04:46PM

Daith wrote: »

Though what's to stop people from not tagging on with their leap card (bar their honesty of course). Can the inspectors read their card to see if they tagged on?

I'm always amazed at how many Irish people seem to be convinced that they are the first people to come up with a genius idea as to how to get around any particular system or rule.

Yes, those clever people in RPA did consider the possibility that people might get on the tram without tagging their card. The inspectors do have card readers to check if the card has been tagged on.

Hamiltonion · 31-01-2013 04:49PM

Take it a couple of times a week, never ever pay.

Just avoid Heuston and Middle abbey if possible as they (inspectors) tend to like those stops

If caught say you have a monthly ticket you don't have on you, cheerily collect your fine and leave (having of course given a fake name / address)

If asked for ID its obviously in the wallet with my forgotten ticket

Saves me about E20 a week I reckon

frag420 · 31-01-2013 04:50PM

I prefer Luas CK,

Better jokes!!

AnonoBoy · 31-01-2013 04:52PM

frag420 wrote: »

I prefer Luas CK,

Better jokes!!

That's awful. Just awful. :pac:

Daith · 31-01-2013 04:54PM

RainyDay wrote: »

I'm always amazed at how many Irish people seem to be convinced that they are the first people to come up with a genius idea as to how to get around any particular system or rule.

Yes, those clever people in RPA did consider the possibility that people might get on the tram without tagging their card. The inspectors do have card readers to check if the card has been tagged on.

Was asking a question. No need to get snotty.

Thanks for answering it though. Eventually.

conorhal · 31-01-2013 04:56PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Any evidence ,data to back that up.
If a paedophile pays for his ticket, does that make him decent?

Do you have any evidence to suggest that he's wrong, as wrong as your daft analogy for example?

When it comes to the Red Line that I get (I rarely use the Green Line so I can't comment on it), there are always a couple people at any given stop that I get on that have neither tagged on with a leap card or bought a ticket. Groups of teens rarely buy a ticket on that line, and when you see them booting off at the speed of light whenever anybody with a high viz jacket gets on it doesn’t take a genius to figure out why.
Then you have the usual junkie\scummer brigade. Inspectors don’t even bother to check them unless the paramilitary SWAT looking guys are around. This tends to bug me the most. I’ve been done for a fine twice in the last year (my own carless fault for forgetting to tag on or not checking if I tagged on successfully), but when an inspector has walked by ‘the usual suspects’ to get to you it feels really unfair.
When inspectors do get on, they almost ALWAYS roust of few people, and as a frequent user of the Luas I’d say at fare evasion is quite high. The honor system might work in Berlin, but the Irish have never been known to be all that law abiding and are overly fond of a bit of cute hoorism. The funniest thing you frequently see are people that peg it for the Luas, but just too late, the door closes on their faces and they throw up their arms and shoot the driver a filthy look, and you think, mate, of you had any intention of tagging on pr paying for a ticket you’d never have caught it anyway, and since you didn’t have any intention of paying you’re hardly entitled to get uppity if the driver won’t wait for you.

Dj Grimreefer · 31-01-2013 05:03PM

So the Luas goes into a doctor

Doctor: how long have you been on drugs
Luas: drugs? What are you talking about
Doctor: I can clearly see your track marks

StephenHendry · 31-01-2013 05:03PM

prefer the luas to the dart and the odd time i've not tagged on or paid, its a pity they didnt have the connection to the airport, also the red and green lines should have been connected together as was in the original plans

How Soon Is Now · 31-01-2013 05:05PM

I use the Luas a fair few times every week as i live in Rathcoole so its handy heading to town or Tallaght.

Theres a massive difference in both lines i used to live in Rathmines so i have used both a fair bit and its clear which one is looked after in general a lot more.

Now i watch people every day hop on and off without paying on the Red line mostly around talla and its all age groups not just teens even though its common knowledge most of them dont pay. And before anyone says there using a leap card or whatever there not its fairly clear there not. I have one myself and u tag it on and off each journey these ****s just know full well they can use the Luas as a free ride to where ever it is they are off to.

There needs to be inspectors on it regularly this bollox of turning up when theres an event on or first thing in the morning is pointless.

In fact most of the time u see them theres about ten of them all at the one stop??? Whats so hard about them working shifts and being there from moment it starts up in morning to when it finish s at night ? That way people will have no choice but to pay as theres much more of a chance you being asked to show your ticket or have your leap card scanned.

Theres nothing worse then paying for something like transport and watching others get it for free just because the system is flawed. Would it be impossible to have at least two inspectors sitting on each tram and inspecting each stop as people get on and get off ??

AnonoBoy · 31-01-2013 05:18PM

Dj Grimreefer wrote: »

So the Luas goes into a doctor

Doctor: how long have you been on drugs
Luas: drugs? What are you talking about
Doctor: I can clearly see your track marks

Six years registered.

You bided your time. Waiting. Always waiting.

And then when the time was right. BAM!!!!

First post classic.

Kudos.

CrazyRabbit · 31-01-2013 09:18PM

paddy147 wrote: »

Have you personally done a survey to back up your post.

How do you know that a person who just walks onto a Luas isnt decent and hasnt got a leap card,or a weekly or monthly travel pass or a free travel pass (disability pass)??????

How nice of you to look down your nose though and prejudge with such a lovely post.:(

1. Based on the number of people replying here who say they don't pay.
2. Based on the number of people I see getting on without having been to the machine or without having used a leap card.
3. Various news stories about fare dodgers.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/luas-fare-dodgers-from-right-side-of-the-tracks-147412.html
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/luas-fare-cheats-hit-with-fines-of-455000-1117333.html

Oh and my post was about those who HAVEN'T paid. Obviously those with LEAP cards etc were not the target of my scorn...ya know...since they have paid.

Second and Sebring · 31-01-2013 09:43PM

K.

Guy:Incognito · 31-01-2013 09:46PM

Ruudi_Mentari wrote: »

don't think I ever will either, looks shìt

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You know its not a ride at a fun fare, yeah?

markpb · 31-01-2013 10:18PM

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

1. Based on the number of people replying here who say they don't pay.
2. Based on the number of people I see getting on without having been to the machine or without having used a leap card.

1. I pay for my trips but I didn't feel the need to post about it. I'm sure others are the same. You can't judge anything based on one-up posts on the Internet.

2. I have an annual ticket so you won't see me use a TVM or tag on with a Leap card. Everyone else with return tickets, day tickets, weekly tickets, monthly tickets, annual tickets or DSP free travel passes will be the same so you can't assume we're all fare evading scumbags.

Each year the RPA put undercover staff on the Luas checking tickets but not issuing fines - they just record the percentage of fare evaders. If it gets too high, Veoila are penalised.

The LUAS is a bloody joke

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