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Why don't you speak Irish?

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  • #32
    RikkFlair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,123 ✭✭✭RikkFlair


    TG4 is great for picking up the cupla focail. I find myself often swearing in Irish....."FOR FEIC SAKE"


  • #33
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Learned irish from age 5 til about 18 - Can not speak a word but can recite a few ****ing poems ANd have no love for it what so ever.

    Learned French from age 14 til 18 - Can get by when in France but not a French poem have I. I like French as a language.

    Draw from this what you will;)


  • #34
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Two words really - Ní thuigim


  • #35
    4zn76tysfajdxp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    I don't live in Ireland anymore but when I did I spoke Irish daily.
    Lelantos wrote: »
    It's just peoples attitude to the language, if an American comedian can pick it up in 6 months or so the rest of us should be able to do it within 6 years. It's easy to blame teachers, curriculum, the language itself, but not so easy to blame ourselves

    Mainly the curriculum, though.


  • #36
    J_E
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    Lelantos wrote: »
    It's just peoples attitude to the language, if an American comedian can pick it up in 6 months or so the rest of us should be able to do it within 6 years. It's easy to blame teachers, curriculum, the language itself, but not so easy to blame ourselves
    Sounds like a cop-out. Irish has some ferociously confusing grammar (never knowing if a word is masculine or feminine because the rules don't really work), constant irregularities, etc. Are you sure he could really speak fluently or only had a basic grasp?


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  • #37
    Biggins
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    Should be multiple choice.

    I resented being forced to learn it.
    I feel it has no practical use.
    Just not interested in it.
    Learning other languages is more important to me.


  • #38
    --Kaiser--
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    The purpose of language is communication. What extra people could I communicate with if I was fluent in this language? Close to zero. I'd be better off learning Klingon.

    And before there are a lot of histrionic posts about culture and heritage, our culture and heritage exists well beyond our native language


  • #39
    jjbrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭jjbrien


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    English sub-titles on TG4 are very useful.

    Even TG4 shows little irish programs. When the goverment introduced TG4 I thought it would be the end of Irish on RTE..... nope it still stayed on RTE as well.

    I know little or no Irish these days after been forced to do it for 14 years at school. I knew a good deal of Irish before I went into secondary school then I forgot it all due to rubbish teachers we had the head of the county's GAA for an irish teacher he was only interested in talking about GAA, rugby, soccer, telling jokes and talking about anything but Irish. He would have been a good friend to take to the pub but useless as a teacher.

    Then the curriculum was horrid...... "Peg" enough said


  • #40
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    The purpose of language is communication. What extra people could I communicate with if I was fluent in this language? Close to zero. I'd be better off learning Klingon.

    And before there are a lot of histrionic posts about culture and heritage, our culture and heritage exists well beyond our native language
    No it doesn't!! You're obviously an anti-Irish west Brit unionist!!!!!11!


  • #41
    Shenshen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Mostly because I didn't go to school here, and beginner's courses for adults are thin on the ground and rather expensive...


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  • #42
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Combination of two really, no interest in it because it has no practical use. Would rather use the time to brush up on the stuff I did in school I might actually use ie French and Spanish


  • #43
    Vojera
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,812 ✭✭✭Vojera


    Lelantos wrote: »
    It's just peoples attitude to the language, if an American comedian can pick it up in 6 months or so the rest of us should be able to do it within 6 years. It's easy to blame teachers, curriculum, the language itself, but not so easy to blame ourselves

    But did he learn it in the same way we were forced to trudge though in school? No, he learned by immersion in the language (afaik), which a lot of people say makes it far easier to learn any language, because there are fluent speakers around you all the time.

    Being forced to learn those passages out of Bun Go Barr by rote does nothing for learning, it just makes you a parrot. They should really overhaul the whole curriculum from national school up.


  • #44
    Chuck Stone
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    I grew up in norniron where there was no primary school education in Irish. When my family moved to the south I was too far behind to ketchup.


  • #45
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,797 ✭✭✭karma_


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    No it doesn't!! You're obviously an anti-Irish west Brit unionist!!!!!11!

    Imagine you turning up in yet another Irish language thread.


  • #46
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    karma_ wrote: »
    Imagine you turning up in yet another Irish language thread.
    No need to imagine.


  • #47
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,797 ✭✭✭karma_


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    No need to imagine.

    True, I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.


  • #48
    Rhinocharge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rhinocharge


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpp0LHAxCxU


  • #49
    Lord TSC
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    karma_ wrote: »
    Imagine you turning up in yet another Irish language thread.

    Yeah, imagine a user coming into a topic on a public forum board he frequents. The nerve.

    Or is this topic another one where a question is asked but the true answer not wanted?

    My answer; I have no need to speak it. My life is not impeded in any way by not being able to speak it.


  • #50
    Myrddin
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    My Irish teacher in secondary was appallingly bad. Learning Irish quickly became nothing more than a chore, a way to pass tests & points in your leaving cert. At no point was it ever made to be fun, constructive, engaging and/or remotely interesting.

    Its a shame, I'd actually love to be able to speak it. But after ten years being taught it from primary through to leaving cert, I can honestly say something was wrong with the system/manner its taught to kids


  • #51
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,797 ✭✭✭karma_


    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    Yeah, imagine a user coming into a topic on a public forum board he frequents. The nerve.

    The lad is entitled to his opinion of course, I'd rather he was honest about it though.


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  • #52
    hyperborean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭hyperborean


    Its a rubbish makey upey language,

    A bit like trying to make New york state give up english and learn sioux,


  • #53
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,797 ✭✭✭karma_


    hyperborean wrote: »
    Its a rubbish makey upey language,

    A bit like trying to make New york state give up english and learn sioux,

    A bit like in the sense that it would be literally nothing like that?


  • #54
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    hyperborean wrote: »
    A bit like trying to make New york state give up english and learn sioux,

    Wouldn't it be more like trying to get the Sioux to learn their own language? Oh wait, they already can


  • #55
    hyperborean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭hyperborean


    karma_ wrote: »
    A bit like in the sense that it would be literally nothing like that?


    Go way ye divil, pointing out the ridiculousness of my post is not very nice,


  • #56
    Fooker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭Fooker


    hyperborean wrote: »
    Its a rubbish makey upey language,

    A bit like trying to make New york state give up english and learn sioux,

    :rolleyes:


  • #57
    Judgement Day
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Agree that the poll should have been multiple choice as I could have ticked a number of reasons. I suppose my primary one would be that I'm a Prod so it's not part of my culture and consequently of no interest. I also find the constant preaching that's 'it's part of who we are' really insulting. I only had the misfortune of being taught Irish for a couple of years at secondary school but I hated it. These days I greatly resent the amount of time my children waste learning it at their primary school but what can you do. Anyway, in answer to the thread title - I can't - apart from a few words like Nuacht and choice phrases such as "Chucky ar lar/Tiocfaidh ár lá" ! :D


  • #58
    miss no stars
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭miss no stars


    Why don't I speak Irish? Because nobody around me is speaking Irish. They're speaking English. I have no need to speak Irish as English (my mother tongue) is understood everywhere in this country and in many other countries. Irish is not.

    But can't and don't are different. Should I chose to, I can speak Irish, I just have absolutely no use for it.


  • #59
    Biggins
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    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    ...I'd be better off learning Klingon.

    I'd raise a tankard of Bloodwine (Iw HIq) to that! :D

    There is probably on Earth just as much speakers of it or at least know a few words. :o


  • #60
    CruelCoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    Points 1,2,3,5 apply to me.


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  • #61
    Leftist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    it's a pointless dead language.


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