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Why don't you speak Irish?

  • 30-01-2013 04:14PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭


    Well, why don't you? As far as I can see (I'm open to correction ;)) efforts to revive the Irish language have failed. For me, I think what put me off was being forced to learn it in school and also, I don't think learning it makes me any more or less 'Irish'.

    I'm interested to know why other people don't speak Irish, especially considering the amounts spent yearly on Irish language life-support. So it's time (if you're willing) for that mainstay of social research, an AH poll!

    Why don't you speak Irish? 696 votes

    I resent(ed) being forced to learn it.
    0% 0 votes
    I feel it has no practical use.
    21% 148 votes
    It's not important to my sense of national identity (or national identity isn't important to me)
    32% 223 votes
    Just not interested in it.
    5% 39 votes
    I was not born in Ireland, so it has no special meaning to me.
    10% 73 votes
    Learning other languages is more important to me.
    5% 38 votes
    How dare you, I speak Irish.
    5% 37 votes
    Irish language Atari Jaguar
    19% 138 votes


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Comments

  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    What's "not again" as Gaelige?

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Because the way it was taught in school was crap and no one else uses it.

    Unfortunately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    An bhfuil cead agam dul go dti an leithreas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Jaxxy


    I do speak Irish!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭Franticfrank


    I wasn't born in the Gaeltacht.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    I'm ashamed that I am unable to speak Irish.

    That will be rectified this year though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Bertser


    Because of how it's taught and how it presents little or no job opportunities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭danslevent


    I don't plan on living in Ireland my whole life so didn't see the point. I'm so much better at French than Irish, which career wise etc, it so much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭DenMan


    Wibbs wrote: »
    What's "not again" as Gaelige?

    Ní arís


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Diageio_Man


    Prob cause my irish teacher was so bad at teaching it, she turned me off it for life. Such a pity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    was forced to learn it in school so immediately took a dislike, just like vegetables. I chose to do german in secondary, only done it for 3 years but still know more german than irish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Recidivist


    Because it has zero relevence to my life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    The curriculum is terrible. You spend about 12 years being forced to learn it and most come out barely able to hold a conversation!

    What's so wrong with English? It's firmly cemented as our primary language and that's not going to change any time soon. Irish is just awkward to use in a modern society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭franktheplank


    * mod note, I can't edit the poll now, could you please add an 'other' option and an 'it was poorly thought' option. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Frolick


    I don't speak Irish, grew up trying to learn it. But now looking back I wish I knew it. My language etc etc

    I wouldn't totally blame the teaching of it. There is this whole attitude surrounding irish. People don't like it because it was forced upon them and their children pick up this dislike from them then, if you get what I mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 797 ✭✭✭backthephilup


    I spent all my time looking out the window. There were squirrels in our school yard. Fascinating creatures squirrels


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭BillyMitchel


    I don't see the option of my teacher was useless and a nervous wreck who couldn't control the class who was also more interested in giving us a history lesson about Irish politics.

    I feel crap when I go to foreign countries and they ask me to speak Irish :( it's a shame really. One day ill get around to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Well I don't speak/converse in Irish, my family don't speak Irish, the extended family don't speak Irish either, if I go shopping in Dublin I don't hear Irish being spoken, people don'y speak Irish down the gym or at the local swimmimg pool . .

    Come to think of it, the only time I am going to come into contact with the Irish language is when the kids start primary school.
    Thats my personal experience living & working on the east coast-Greater Dublin area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rhinocharge


    Wibbs wrote: »
    What's "not again" as Gaelige?

    Ní arís = "not again"

    Tá mé cúpla focal na Gaeilge, ach níl mé líofa. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭emeraldstar


    Because I don't live in the Gaeltacht so there's no one to speak it to :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,812 ✭✭✭Vojera


    It's taught REALLY badly, no real structure to it at all. I remember being in 5th year in secondary school and learning that irish words have genders!

    Plus once you reach secondary school they assume you can already speak it and start going off with poems and plays when students find it hard enough just to get through basic conversation. There doesn't seem to be much emphasis after that on improving grammar and vocabulary.

    I learned (and have retained) ten times more French in the 5 years I took it than I did taking Irish from junior or senior infants, whenever they introduce it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    I can barely speak English, what chance would I have with Irish :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    English sub-titles on TG4 are very useful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I speakail Irish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 497 ✭✭akura


    I had no interest in Irish at school so it was in one ear, out the other


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭gg2


    I know alot more French and German after spending just 4 years learning it in secondary.... Its a shame really. It was taught totally bum about elbow imo.

    Go tabann is a favourite. I used it dozens of times writing essays!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Lucena


    Badly taught, there should be more conversational classes and less writing. Realistically, most people will never want to write, but might want to chance more than a cupla focal now and then.
    No opportunity. Very few people speak it in everyday situations. Even if you go to countries like the Netherlands where they have good English, all the signs are in Dutch, labels on stuff is in Dutch, people around you will be speaking Dutch, so you will have an opportunity to pick up a bit of the lingo.
    None of that for Irish (apart from a bit spoken sna Gaeltachtai)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    I canny evin spake Inelish, never mine anyhin else.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    akura wrote: »
    so it was in one ear, out the other
    You've reminded me that my dad used to add "with nothing in the middle to impede it's progress" when I'd use the phrase :D

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Lelantos


    It's just peoples attitude to the language, if an American comedian can pick it up in 6 months or so the rest of us should be able to do it within 6 years. It's easy to blame teachers, curriculum, the language itself, but not so easy to blame ourselves


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