Garda shot dead during robbery at Louth Credit Union(Mod warning, 1st post.)

Pappa Charlie · 28-01-2013 12:42AM

darced wrote: »

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What's your plan mate? Bear in mind what would you do if it was a close family member of yours? Or are you just one of those perfect doo gooders, I note from your previous posts you have a dislike for gardai

razorgil · 28-01-2013 12:42AM

what sticks in my craw is that when (perish the thought ) these murderers need help in a life threatening situation of their own, who will they ring??? ....the gardai/psni, thats who, and the cries of indignation when they're not responded to promptly!! they will probably have the neck then to dis the police response time,

aaakev · 28-01-2013 12:47AM

darced wrote: »

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These people are of NO benefit to society, none at all and we will spend a fortune keeping them locked up for however many years when they could be put down and that will be the end of it, they wont hurt anyone else again. I certainly wouldnt be apposed to the death penalty in cases like this, infact id support it

MagicSean · 28-01-2013 12:48AM

razorgil wrote: »

what sticks in my craw is that when (perish the thought ) these murderers need help in a life threatening situation of their own, who will they ring??? ....the gardai/psni, thats who, and the cries of indignation when they're not responded to promptly!! they will probably have the neck then to dis the police response time,

And they will get the help.

MagicSean · 28-01-2013 12:53AM

macadam wrote: »

A lot of action going on tonight, around Dundalk, knockbridge and Carrickmacross, garda helcopter ARU etc.
Hope they get the low lifes soon

Is it wrong to hope they resist a little? Just enough for the taser.

allthedoyles · 28-01-2013 12:57AM

aaakev wrote: »

These people are of NO benefit to society, none at all and we will spend a fortune keeping them locked up for however many years when they could be put down and that will be the end of it, they wont hurt anyone else again. I certainly wouldnt be apposed to the death penalty in cases like this, infact id support it

Pat McCann and Colm O Shea are now locked up 33 years , since 1980 .

It must be costing a fortune in upkeep .
They did get the death penalty that time , but it was downgraded to life .

Biggins · 28-01-2013 01:04AM

allthedoyles wrote: »

Pat McCann and Colm O Shea are now locked up 33 years , since 1980 .

It must be costing a fortune in upkeep .
They did get the death penalty that time , but it was downgraded to life .

Living in a generally more peaceful democratic society with equally fairer general more modern laws, than living in a society who's laws are still somewhat still in the dark ages, is a double-edged sword that we must learn to live with.
Most of the time we willingly accept the advantages those laws give us.
On the rare occasion where emotions are more raised in anger, the other side of that sword of justice which cuts also, is there not just to protect others but also ourselves from allowing our society to revolve backwards to a lower level of less humanity and charity.

Sunnyisland · 28-01-2013 01:07AM

all the doyles wrote: »

Pat McCann and Colm O Shea are now locked up 33 years , since 1980 .

It must be costing a fortune in upkeep .
They did get the death penalty that time , but it was downgraded to life .

And Peter pringle who was convicted with them and also received the death penalty had his conviction quashed after spending 15 years in prison for a crime he did not do, By a lot of your understandable anger here he would would also be dead now.

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=peter%20pringle%20about%20time&source=web&cd=24&cad=rja&ved=0CHQQFjANOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.news.cornell.edu%2Fchronicle%2F05%2F3.10.05%2Fexonerated_panel.html&ei=9MAFUdySLNGFhQeQ74GICQ&usg=AFQjCNF2i4yTu3eHpyFFEBNWwbRbE7osNQ

Sunnyisland · 28-01-2013 01:09AM

Biggins wrote: »

Living in a generally more peaceful democratic society with equally fairer general more modern laws, than living in a society who's laws are still somewhat still in the dark ages, is a double-edged sword that we must learn to live with.
Most of the time we willingly accept the advantages those laws give us.
On the rare occasion where emotions are more raised in anger, the other side of that sword of justice which cuts also, is there not just to protect others but also ourselves from allowing our society to revolve backwards to a lower level of less humanity and charity.

Well said Biggins.

razorgil · 28-01-2013 01:12AM

can't get it outta my head though. to think that tomorrow morning i mite kiss the smallies and my wife " good luck, c u later", and never see them again, nor them me...alive that is...thats the reality of what's happened here. i don't give a ****, no-one deserves to not expect to come home from work in the evening.....mortgage payments me arse....

Sunnyisland · 28-01-2013 01:17AM

razorgil wrote: »

can't get it outta my head though. to think that tomorrow morning i mite kiss the smallest and my wife " good luck, c u later", and never see them again, nor them me...alive that is...that's the reality of what's happened here. i don't give a ****, no-one deserves to not expect to come home from work in the evening.....mortgage payments me arse....

It wont bring back this brave garda but the people responsible will be caught and when convicted they will get a very very long time in prison.

DB10 · 28-01-2013 01:32AM

RIP very sad .

I must say there is too much utter scum on the streets that should be locked up, it just seems to be getting worse and worse. Very young lads involved in crime these days with nothing but a life on inflicting misery on others ahead. Something must be done to target these young thugs under 18 and rehabilitate , by the time they reach adulthood damage is normally done.

darced · 28-01-2013 01:40AM

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christymac · 28-01-2013 01:53AM

goodgolfer64 wrote: »

the detectives were in seperate cars with CU workers to escort them to the bank (when windows smashed and shot happened) the car blocked them in and 2 guys jumped from behind a wall

not true! both gaurds were in the same car. they usually never get out of their car but as the raiders approached Adrian went to stand up out of his car but was shot several times before he had a chance to reach for his gun. they then told the other gaurd to remain still or they would shoot him too.

RIP Adrian, a true gent and great father and husband.

goodgolfer64 · 28-01-2013 02:10AM

christymac wrote: »

not true! both gaurds were in the same car. they usually never get out of their car but as the raiders approached Adrian went to stand up out of his car but was shot several times before he had a chance to reach for his gun. they then told the other gaurd to remain still or they would shoot him too.
RIP Adrian, a true gent and great father and husband.

yes you are indeed correct......funny how the details get crossed when friends tell stories to friends...staff cars windows were smashed..the Cooley CU met at lordship and all drive to dundalk for drop....
so so sad....RIP...
i believe the carlingford road mightnt be open till tuesday...thats some forensics operation.....no leaf or stone unturned....

Ruudi_Mentari · 28-01-2013 02:43AM

RIP.

Of course if a citizen spontaneously attempts something like this, he's a hero but this man was on call for such 24/7 - generally, fundamentally the gardaì certainly have my respect.

steddyeddy · 28-01-2013 02:48AM

MagicSean wrote: »

Is it wrong to hope they resist a little? Just enough for the taser.

I'm actually with you on this one. It's not wrong it's human.

Jacob T · 28-01-2013 02:52AM

steddyeddy wrote: »

I'm actually with you on this one. It's not wrong it's human.

This is all presuming they will be caught at all, if I was the shooter I'd be on the other side of the world by now... One of my biggest fears is they won't be caught, what kinda message that sends out to the criminal underworld

Gee_G · 28-01-2013 07:55AM

Jacob T wrote: »

This is all presuming they will be caught at all, if I was the shooter I'd be on the other side of the world by now... One of my biggest fears is they won't be caught, what kinda message that sends out to the criminal underworld

I think it will be a long,long time before the Gardai stop this man hunt.
Was just reading on the independent that all they stole was €4000,fckrs. €4000 for this mans life!

goodgolfer64 · 28-01-2013 12:06PM

Gee_G wrote: »

I think it will be a long,long time before the Gardai stop this man hunt.
Was just reading on the independent that all they stole was €4000,fckrs. €4000 for this mans life!

the last time they got 62k at this spot...

aaakev · 28-01-2013 12:35PM

goodgolfer64 wrote: »

the last time they got 62k at this spot...

I guess for some people that potential return outweighs the risks involved. Crazy...

Id love to know how these people feel about what they did, if they feel any remorse or just pass it off as as part of their business and move on

Leftist · 28-01-2013 12:44PM

aaakev wrote: »

I guess for some people that potential return outweighs the risks involved. Crazy...

Id love to know how these people feel about what they did, if they feel any remorse or just pass it off as as part of their business and move on

They are armed robbers, if they are who they are suspected to be, they could very well be ex-provo. If they cared about this kind of thing they wouldn't be doing it in the first place.

Pappa Charlie · 28-01-2013 12:47PM

goodgolfer64 wrote: »

the last time they got 62k at this spot...

They are probably getting job seekers allowance from the state as well!

Leftist · 28-01-2013 12:56PM

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

They are probably getting job seekers allowance from the state as well!

have they no shame??

aaakev · 28-01-2013 01:09PM

Leftist wrote: »

. If they cared about this kind of thing they wouldn't be doing it in the first place.

In reality tho i wouldnt think that is true which is why id be interested to know

MagicSean · 28-01-2013 01:16PM

aaakev wrote: »

I guess for some people that potential return outweighs the risks involved. Crazy...

Id love to know how these people feel about what they did, if they feel any remorse or just pass it off as as part of their business and move on

You can be sure their barrister will go to great pains to tell the court just how remorseful they are should they be convicted. As far as I am concerned, unless a person turns themselves in, confesses and pleads guilty a claim of remorse should not be allowed.

Leftist · 28-01-2013 01:47PM

aaakev wrote: »

In reality tho i wouldnt think that is true which is why id be interested to know

why wouldn't you think it's true?

if they're provos they are likely to have killed before. These kind of serious and violent criminals are not remorseful about their crimes.

aaakev · 28-01-2013 01:52PM

MagicSean wrote: »

You can be sure their barrister will go to great pains to tell the court just how remorseful they are should they be convicted. As far as I am concerned, unless a person turns themselves in, confesses and pleads guilty a claim of remorse should not be allowed.

Ya know what i agree 100%

My name is URL · 28-01-2013 03:18PM

Gee_G wrote: »

I think it will be a long,long time before the Gardai stop this man hunt.
Was just reading on the independent that all they stole was €4000,fckrs. €4000 for this mans life!

It's being reported that the scummers left €40,000 behind in the robbery

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0128/364816-gardai-liaise-with-psni-in-detective-murder-probe/

macadam · 28-01-2013 03:59PM

Just back from Lordship, the club and community is pretty numb to say the least.
Adrian was just appointed head of Òg sport in the club, looking after the juveniles, how can anyone explain this to the children who looked up to him so much.
Yes the scumbags left a reported €40k behind them, but they also left a massive void in the community as whole.
Whoever is shielding these bastards wake up and turn them in.

Garda shot dead during robbery at Louth Credit Union(Mod warning, 1st post.)

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