Cavan nanny charged with injuring baby in Boston - Charges Dropped

fasttalkerchat · 23-01-2013 11:07AM

E.S.T. wrote: »

Massachusetts doesn't have bondsmen like other states so it is all through the court.

So how can a $500,000 cash bond be set and how would it have been paid?

E.S.T. · 23-01-2013 11:17AM

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

So how can a $500,000 cash bond be set and how would it have been paid?

It is basically like not setting bail but if somebody did have the money they would deposit it directly with the court.

hoodwinked · 23-01-2013 11:23AM

i always wonder about cases like this, as a parent you'd think you'd notice something was wrong but unfortunately a lot of people don't!

SEPT 23 1989 · 23-01-2013 11:29AM

hoodwinked wrote: »

i always wonder about cases like this, as a parent you'd think you'd notice something was wrong but unfortunately a lot of people don't!

Kids get knocks all the time especially as toddlers

this is every parents nightmare you would never forgive yourself

seamus · 23-01-2013 11:36AM

E.S.T. wrote: »

I am in Boston and this is all over the news here. Media reporting that she has a history or violence, 2 restraining orders and 1 assault case in the past.

“When I found out she was a nanny, it crossed my mind to find that family and tell them how she is violent and aggressive,” Quincy neighbor Thomas Collins said of Brady.

Always need to be skeptical of these twitching curtains types who come out of the woodwork at a time like this.

"I knew she was trouble, just knew it, but inexplicably I never thought to say this to anyone until I had the chance to appear on TV".

Interesting here that everyone involved is a foreign national; nanny & parents. Could be very important in a jury trial.

i always wonder about cases like this, as a parent you'd think you'd notice something was wrong but unfortunately a lot of people don't!

It depends on the situation. In some cases nannies are effectively a surrogate parent because neither of the actual parents are around enough. So the main times the parents may see the child are when she's asleep. Cuts and bruises are easily hidden under clothing and if a child is asleep it's impossible to tell if something is wrong.

ArmaniJeanss · 23-01-2013 11:49AM

Always fascinated and appalled the way US media can refer to prior charges/arrests/incidents and publish character assasination quotes from prior acquaintances long before the trial has even started.

I think in this area anyway that our blackout rules, once the person is charged then you can effectivly publish nothing other than the bare facts of how the case is processing, is a vastly superior and fairer system.

E.S.T. · 23-01-2013 12:15PM

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Always fascinated and appalled the way US media can refer to prior charges/arrests/incidents and publish character assasination quotes from prior acquaintances long before the trial has even started.

I think in this area anyway that our blackout rules, once the person is charged then you can effectivly publish nothing other than the bare facts of how the case is processing, is a vastly superior and fairer system.

Yea it is great in Ireland where people have to rely on rumors and "known to Gardai" type statements. I don't agree with using the neighbors quotes but then again it sounds like he has had quite a few problems with her. The other quotes are from application forms of the restraining orders that have been taken out against her. Her arrest record is what it is and there is no reason to not publish it.

Allyall · 23-01-2013 12:31PM

E.S.T. wrote: »

Yea it is great in Ireland where people have to rely on rumors and "known to Gardai" type statements. I don't agree with using the neighbors quotes but then again it sounds like he has had quite a few problems with her. The other quotes are from application forms of the restraining orders that have been taken out against her. Her arrest record is what it is and there is no reason to not publish it.

..Other than the fact that it paints a bad picture of her, and to some people makes her look guilty already, even though nothing has happened with the case yet, including most importantly, appointing a Jury, who will have undoubtedly read all of those stories already.

It makes it harder for her defence and easier for the prosecution to sway the jury.

E.S.T. · 23-01-2013 12:37PM

Allyall wrote: »

..Other than the fact that it paints a bad picture of her, and to some people makes her look guilty already, even though nothing has happened with the case yet, including most importantly, appointing a Jury, who will have undoubtedly read all of those stories already.

It makes it harder for her defence and easier for the prosecution to sway the jury.

That is what jury selection is for and it is not really uncommon for some people in the US to not read a newspaper or watch local news.

Death and Taxes · 23-01-2013 12:40PM

E.S.T. wrote: »

Yea it is great in Ireland where people have to rely on rumors and "known to Gardai" type statements. I don't agree with using the neighbors quotes but then again it sounds like he has had quite a few problems with her. The other quotes are from application forms of the restraining orders that have been taken out against her. Her arrest record is what it is and there is no reason to not publish it.

In Ireland it could not be published before the trial as the matter is Sub Judice.
It would not be allowed into evidence in court as its predjudicial effect would far outweigh its probative value.
TBH I'm not sure that we should even be engaging in conjecture and speculation at this point as no trial has been held and no evidence presented.

Allyall · 23-01-2013 12:42PM

U.S., Ireland, Australia, U.K., Lithuania etc.

No matter what way it's done, there are going to be flaws in the system, but one common factor is that the media will always make it worse.

Hope justice is served on the correct party whoever it is. The poor kid never stood a chance, less then a year old and having broken bones and scrapes. Shouldn't happen anywhere to anyone.

Lollipops23 · 23-01-2013 12:48PM

Allyall wrote: »

Hope justice is served on the correct party whoever it is. The poor kid never stood a chance, less then a year old and having broken bones and scrapes. Shouldn't happen anywhere to anyone.

It breaks my heart to think that the baby was being beaten/abused and nobody picked up on it...

Hope they get to the bottom of this whole thing and that it's not going to be Louise Woodward all over again, trial-by-media style.

mitosis · 23-01-2013 12:50PM

E.S.T. wrote: »

That is conservative paper and it used to be owned by Murdoch but even the liberal Boston Globe talks about her prior history.

She sounds like a classy lady

mike65 · 23-01-2013 12:53PM

RTE News Now to have wall to wall coverage?

Keitho · 23-01-2013 05:36PM

This story is just heartbreaking, the poor little child. RIP

However we should hold off on making assumptions on the girl's guilt until proper evidence is brought forward.

ThreeLineWhip · 26-01-2013 11:49PM

Even if acquitted she will be deported back to Cavan tout suite.

All that this will do is start a witch hunt for illegals in the Boston area.

woodoo · 27-01-2013 12:35AM

I think the parents should be thoroughly investigated too. Something a little fishy about this case. How could the parents not have known about previous fractures on their child?

E.S.T. · 27-01-2013 10:52PM

woodoo wrote: »

I think the parents should be thoroughly investigated too. Something a little fishy about this case. How could the parents not have known about previous fractures on their child?

Probably cause babies can't speak and with darker skinned people bruises don't stand out as predominantly as whites. That is before you even consider that fractures don't always cause bruising.

Lollipops23 · 27-01-2013 10:58PM

woodoo wrote: »

I think the parents should be thoroughly investigated too. Something a little fishy about this case. How could the parents not have known about previous fractures on their child?

I wondered that too, but it happens. I still feel like we're not getting the whole story on this, I'd say it'll all come out in the wash during her trial.

woodoo · 27-01-2013 11:06PM

E.S.T. wrote: »

Probably cause babies can't speak and with darker skinned people bruises don't stand out as predominantly as whites. That is before you even consider that fractures don't always cause bruising.

What about pain. I have had fractures and if i was touched on that limp i would have recoiled. If you were lifting and laying your child regularly you wouldn't be long recognising where pain was emanating from imo.

E.S.T. · 28-01-2013 12:50AM

woodoo wrote: »

What about pain. I have had fractures and if i was touched on that limp i would have recoiled. If you were lifting and laying your child regularly you wouldn't be long recognising where pain was emanating from imo.

The parents were first time parents and from reading an article a few days ago the nanny said in the police interview that the child was "cranky as usual" which may explain why the parents would not have been concerned that something was wrong if the baby was crying a lot.

Jacob T · 28-01-2013 01:31AM

Keitho wrote: »

This story is just heartbreaking, the poor little child. RIP

However we should hold off on making assumptions on the girl's guilt until proper evidence is brought forward.

Not gonna happen, trial by media (including social media) is the latest craze

scrawnyass · 28-01-2013 01:40AM

Jacob T wrote: »

Not gonna happen, trial by media (including social media) is the latest craze

Hmmm. I'm no genius but I think I know who's responsible for this poor baby's murder.

Jacob T · 28-01-2013 02:35AM

scrawnyass wrote: »

Hmmm. I'm no genius but I think I know who's responsible for this poor baby's murder.

You're just proving my point using words like "murder", where criminal intent needs to be proven. All we have until the trial is a dead baby and a suspect.

Da Shins Kelly · 28-01-2013 03:27AM

Something seems a bit weird about this case.

17larsson · 13-04-2013 10:08AM

She is being charged with first degree murder.

From the outside, maybe because I am Irish and biased, even though we have very little information this looks likely that the lady was set up. Where were the parents? What's the story with the old injury? Even if she is guilty, I'd guess the parents are equally guilty. But it's all just guessing from small newsbites so hard to know.

We don't have enough information to make any proper judgements but I don't have the greatest faith in an American jury particularly when the media over there has already made up it's mind on who is guilty

Anynama141 · 13-04-2013 10:14AM

17larsson wrote: »

From the outside, maybe because I am Irish and biased

Clearly an Irish person could not be a killer. Sure there hasn't been a murder in the Republic since 1922.

17larsson · 13-04-2013 10:25AM

Anynama141 wrote: »

Clearly an Irish person could not be a killer. Sure there hasn't been a murder in the Republic since 1922.

Good one..

Anynama141 · 13-04-2013 10:34AM

17larsson wrote: »

Good one..

I don't understand the default 'sure our girl/boy couldn't have done that' reflex whenever someone is accused of something abroad. We know very well that Irish people can and do kill children, by accident or on purpose.

17larsson · 13-04-2013 11:16AM

Anynama141 wrote: »

We know very well that Irish people can and do kill children, by accident or on purpose.

Well that's that then. Irish people can and do kill children either by accident or on purpose.....

Should we hang this woman now or wait till after dinner?

If you don't want to discuss the actual case then why are you posting here? Of course being Irish and not too far from where this woman is from has me hoping that she is innocent but reading the small bit of information we have so far I think there is more involved in this story than one guilty nanny if she is a guilty nanny at all

Cavan nanny charged with injuring baby in Boston - Charges Dropped

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