100 year anniversary of 1916...

Jacob T · 28-01-2013 12:42AM #1

Not long until a full century passing since easter rising, needless to say the country is a very different place. A quote from Sean MacDermott before he was executed in 1916 "I feel happiness the like of which I have never experienced. I die that the Irish nation might live!"

This struck a chord with me when I read it today. What we have now, 97 years later is political traitors freely walking the streets with huge pensions and lump sum payoffs, German/French/British governments and institutions controlling our country's finances, Irish citizens living in fear due to crime levels spiralling out of control, mass emigration, unemployment, etc.

Personally I can't see a whole lot changing in the next 3 years. So I would like to ask you, people of AH - is celebrating the 100 year anniversary of the easter rising hypocritical considering these men are probably rolling in their graves now? "Discuss"

Cookie_Monster · 28-01-2013 12:45AM

it's not really 100 years though, the current state as we know it only appeared in 1937

The_Gatsby · 28-01-2013 12:48AM

For most, it's another excuse for a piss up...

Max Power · 28-01-2013 12:49AM

Hopefully there's a bank holiday for it to go on a session, I'm sure that's what Sean would have wanted.

WoollyRedHat · 28-01-2013 12:49AM

Padraic Pearse was not just a figure of the 1916 rising, but also a poet. When he was in jail, he composed this, The Wayfarer.
http://www.irishcultureandcustoms.com/Poetry/PadraicPearse.html

GRMA · 28-01-2013 12:51AM

Jacob T wrote: »

Not long until a full century passing since easter rising, needless to say the country is a very different place. A quote from Sean MacDermott before he was executed in 1916 "I feel happiness the like of which I have never experienced. I die that the Irish nation might live!"

This struck a chord with me when I read it today. What we have now, 97 years later is political traitors freely walking the streets with huge pensions and lump sum payoffs, German/French/British governments and institutions controlling our country's finances, Irish citizens living in fear due to crime levels spiralling out of control, mass emigration, unemployment, etc.

Personally I can't see a whole lot changing in the next 3 years. So I would like to ask you, people of AH - is celebrating the 100 year anniversary of the easter rising hypocritical considering these men are probably rolling in their graves now? "Discuss"

The centenary should be a time to examine what these men where about and for a renewed push to establish what they fought and died for. I'm not talking about a united Ireland necessarily but one based on the 1916 proclamation, the ideas they had, Connolly etc and the democratic program of the first Dáil

I dont think it should be "celebrated" but it sure as hell should be remembered!

Although Enda Kenney and other gobsh!te politicians who never in a million years have done anything to bring a true Irish republic about should fcuk off. and not be allowed to talk sh!te and say they are continuing their work, or to invoke their names when doing stuff they would never have stood for.

admiralofthefleet · 28-01-2013 12:52AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

it's not really 100 years though, the current state as we know it only appeared in 1937

was it not later? like 1948

Pompey Magnus · 28-01-2013 12:55AM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Padraic Pearse was not just a figure of the 1916 rising, but also a poet. When he was in jail, he composed this, The Wayfarer.
http://www.irishcultureandcustoms.com/Poetry/PadraicPearse.html

Mise Eire (I Am Ireland)
by Padraic Pearse

I am Ireland,
I am older than the old woman of Beare.

Great is my glory,
I who gave birth to Cuchulainn the brave.

Great is my shame,
My own children have sold their mother.

I am Ireland
I am lonelier than the old woman of Beare.

Cookie_Monster · 28-01-2013 12:56AM

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

was it not later? like 1948

I just went from the constitution being implemented.

take your pick:

1937 Constitution

On 29 December 1937, the new Constitution of Ireland (Bunreacht na hÉireann) came into force, which replaced the Constitution of the Irish Free State and called the state Ireland, or Éire in Irish.[21] The former Irish Free State government had taken steps to formally abolish the Office of Governor-General some months before the new Constitution came into force.[22] Although the Constitution established the office of President of Ireland, the question over whether Ireland was a republic remained open. Diplomats were accredited to the King, but the President exercised the internal functions of a Head of State.[23] For instance, the President gave assent to new laws with his own authority, without reference to King George VI. George VI was only an "organ", that was provided for by statute law.

Ireland remained neutral during World War II, a period it described as The Emergency. The link with the monarchy ceased with the passage of the Republic of Ireland Act 1948, which came into force on 18 April 1949 and declared that the state was a republic. Later, the Crown of Ireland Act was formally repealed in Ireland by the Statute Law Revision (Pre-Union Irish Statutes) Act, 1962. Ireland was technically a member of the British Commonwealth after independence until the declaration of a republic on 18 April 1949. At the time, a declaration of a republic terminated Commonwealth membership. This rule was changed 10 days after Ireland declared itself a republic, with the London Declaration of 28 April 1949. Ireland did not reapply when the rules were altered to permit republics to join.

ThreeLineWhip · 28-01-2013 12:59AM

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

was it not later? like 1948

Correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ireland_Act_1948

The Act was signed into law on 21 December 1948 and came into force on 18 April 1949.

GRMA · 28-01-2013 01:04AM

ThreeLineWhip wrote: »

Correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ireland_Act_1948

The Act was signed into law on 21 December 1948 and came into force on 18 April 1949.

Well thats nothing to celebrate!!

ThreeLineWhip · 28-01-2013 01:08AM

GRMA wrote: »

Well thats nothing to celebrate!!

But the hijacking of a biscuit factory and a post office is?

wendell borton · 28-01-2013 01:12AM

We should use our patriots, spinning in their graves, to generate electricity. They must be in such apoplexy at the current state of things we would get some amount of MW's out of them.

Tonyandthewhale · 28-01-2013 01:15AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

it's not really 100 years though, the current state as we know it only appeared in 1937

Only a republic since 1949.

EDIT: beaten to it on the pedantry front.

Lapin · 28-01-2013 01:17AM

ThreeLineWhip wrote: »

But the hijacking of a biscuit factory and a post office is?

They should have gone for the brewery.

I'd gladly take part in a re-enactment of that !

ThreeLineWhip · 28-01-2013 01:17AM

wendell borton wrote: »

We should use our patriots, spinning in their graves, to generate electricity. They must be in such apoplexy at the current state of things we would get some amount of MW's out of them.

Imagine the electricity that could be generated if you connected Gerry Adams to a wind turbine.

bb1234567 · 28-01-2013 01:32AM

Jacob T wrote: »

Not long until a full century passing since easter rising, needless to say the country is a very different place. A quote from Sean MacDermott before he was executed in 1916 "I feel happiness the like of which I have never experienced. I die that the Irish nation might live!"

This struck a chord with me when I read it today. What we have now, 97 years later is political traitors freely walking the streets with huge pensions and lump sum payoffs, German/French/British governments and institutions controlling our country's finances, Irish citizens living in fear due to crime levels spiralling out of control, mass emigration, unemployment, etc.

Personally I can't see a whole lot changing in the next 3 years. So I would like to ask you, people of AH - is celebrating the 100 year anniversary of the easter rising hypocritical considering these men are probably rolling in their graves now? "Discuss"

WHAT. I think you might be exaggarating this ever so slightly:pac: Irelands still one of the safest countries in the world to live in.

Richard Hillman · 28-01-2013 01:37AM

I'll be abroad that weekend. Unfortunately It will be highjacked by Sinn Fein and the Celtic jersey brigade. 1922 is a far more significant year for me.

GRMA · 28-01-2013 01:41AM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I'll be abroad that weekend. Unfortunately It will be highjacked by Sinn Fein and the Celtic jersey brigade. 1922 is a far more significant year for me.

If anything it will be hijacked by the likes of FF, FG and Lab who have spat on their graves and done nothing to build the nation they died for

barry181091 · 28-01-2013 01:55AM

The_Gatsby wrote: »

For most, it's another excuse for a piss up...

Hurrah!

Fizman · 28-01-2013 01:59AM

The_Gatsby wrote: »

For most, it's another excuse for a piss up...

Your avatar approves of this.

stoneill · 28-01-2013 02:07AM

I was wondering about this too - would you give up your life for Ireland the way these people did in 1916 or in the war of independence or civil war?

Would I fúck!

Pompey Magnus · 28-01-2013 02:12AM

GRMA wrote: »

If anything it will be hijacked by the likes of FF, FG and Lab who have spat on their graves and done nothing to build the nation they died for

Don't worry, plans are afoot to prevent an unwanted upsurge in Republicanism and national pride that could result in 2016. Taking a leaf out of the car registration idea, 2015 will instead be known as 20151 and 2016 will instead be 20152, normality will resume at 2017.

Richard Hillman · 28-01-2013 02:13AM

stoneill wrote: »

I was wondering about this too - would you give up your life for Ireland the way these people did in 1916 or in the war of independence or civil war?

Would I fúck!

The majority of the people who fought in these things were probably the dregs of society. People who had nothing else to live for led by clever public speakers.

28-01-2013 02:41AM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Padraic Pearse was not just a figure of the 1916 rising, but also a poet. When he was in jail, he composed this, The Wayfarer.
http://www.irishcultureandcustoms.com/Poetry/PadraicPearse.html

Wasn't he a writer in general? Seem to remember my history teacher tell us that he once wrote a story about Jesus Christ coming back to Earth as a child .. or something ..

Jacob T · 28-01-2013 02:45AM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

The majority of the people who fought in these things were probably the dregs of society. People who had nothing else to live for led by clever public speakers.

Err one of them was a barrister and school teacher...they were certainly nothing resembling "anto" from tallaght destroying the city centre during love Ulster riots, while wearing a Celtic Jersey

fergiesfolly · 28-01-2013 02:46AM

Alright Hillman, lets keep your family out of this

TheUsual · 28-01-2013 02:46AM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

The majority of the people who fought in these things were probably the dregs of society. People who had nothing else to live for led by clever public speakers.

Dregs of society is what the brits sent over here in the form of the black and tans. Their own army Captian's said they were animals.

Celly Smunt · 28-01-2013 02:53AM

stoneill wrote: »

I was wondering about this too - would you give up your life for Ireland the way these people did in 1916 or in the war of independence or civil war?

Would I fúck!

For Ireland the nation and people,yes.For Ireland the establishment,no.

Richard Hillman · 28-01-2013 02:56AM

Jacob T wrote: »

Err one of them was a barrister and school teacher...they were certainly nothing resembling "anto" from tallaght destroying the city centre during love Ulster riots, while wearing a Celtic Jersey

They were the clever leaders and great public speakers. It would be something akin to Richard Boyd-Barrett and Joe Higgins leading the tracksuit brigade to a rebellion.

Celly Smunt · 28-01-2013 02:58AM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

They were the clever leaders and great public speakers. It would be something akin to Richard Boyd-Barrett and Joe Higgins leading the tracksuit brigade to a rebellion.

It wouldn't be too hard tbh,a lot of them i talk to still think sinn fein are IRA.

100 year anniversary of 1916...

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