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Is it ok to be right wing anymore?

  • 27-01-2013 11:36PM
    #1
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭


    In public, in this country?
    I guess I'm a bit of a liberal, am I? I don't have any idea to be honest.
    But I often hear people talk about being right wing as a negative in todays world.


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  • #2
    Bad Santa
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    Not publicly. Liberal atheists are in vogue it would seem.


  • #3
    shedweller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Its fashionable to be left wing at the moment.


  • #4
    Eve_Dublin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    Bad Santa wrote: »
    Not publicly. Liberal atheists are in vogue it would seem.
    shedweller wrote: »
    Its fashionable to be left wing at the moment.

    Most European countries right now have conservative governments, including our own.


  • #5
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Being moderate and having views that veer to the right doesn't seem unreasonable IMO.
    If anything, being really right-wing is starting to become a "fashion" in the last 11/12 years, from what I've seen.


  • #6
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Hitler.

    Just so some arsehole can refer to Godwin's law.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • #7
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    I'm atheist because I don't think the whole god/religion thing makes sense, not because its trendy.


  • #8
    Bad Santa
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    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    Most European countries right now have conservative governments, including our own.

    The ballot box is public now is it.


  • #9
    dsmythy
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    What sort of right wing?


  • #10
    landsleaving
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    shedweller wrote: »
    Its fashionable to be left wing at the moment.

    I'd say it's more a case of what is 'right wing' shifting slightly to the left, as racism, homphobia and the like become unacceptable in all cases. Don't think it's stopping people giving out about people on the dole and things like that - economic conservatism is still a winner. Some of what was right wing just isn't socially acceptable whatever your leaning anymore.


  • #11
    jaffacakesyum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    In real life, at least in my circles, I would say the majority are somewhat right wing. In my experience it's only on boards.ie that everyone is extremely liberal.


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  • #12
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Madam_X wrote: »
    Being moderate and having views that veer to the right doesn't seem unreasonable IMO.
    If anything, being really right-wing is starting to become a "fashion" in the last 11/12 years, from what I've seen.
    But in the public eye it doesn't seem so.
    So often I meet these people who spew this outrageous right winged views on the world. "We need to start beheading these bankers blah blah blah" and this sort of bollocks.


  • #13
    ManMade
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    Fox News has destroyed people's understanding of right wing I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.


  • #14
    robman60
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    Is general society, it's pretty acceptable to be right wing. On Boards, however, people tend to be neo-liberal, so it's not :P


  • #15
    Eve_Dublin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    Bad Santa wrote: »
    The ballot box is public now is it.

    What?


  • #16
    sock puppet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭sock puppet


    ManMade wrote: »
    Fox News has destroyed people's understanding of right wing I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    American media certainly seems to have destroyed what the word "liberal" means over here.


  • #17
    hyperborean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭hyperborean


    Its ok,


  • #18
    BOHtox
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    I thought Libertarianism is the new black?


  • #19
    Hunchback
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    jaffacakesyum wrote: »
    In real life, at least in my circles, I would say the majority are somewhat right wing. In my experience it's only on boards.ie that everyone is extremely liberal.
    Funny that, my experience is equal and opposite


  • #20
    landsleaving
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    ManMade wrote: »
    Fox News has destroyed people's understanding of right wing I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    I'd agree there. Right wing doesn't automatically mean a racist, violence loving lunatic.


  • #21
    Hunchback
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭Hunchback


    but, as a previous poster alluded to, we need context. in what terms are we being asked to consider the concept of a "right wing"? fiscal? social? (assuming we separate these things)


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  • #22
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    jaffacakesyum wrote: »
    In real life, at least in my circles, I would say the majority are somewhat right wing. In my experience it's only on boards.ie that everyone is extremely liberal.

    You must be reading a completely different boards.ie to me

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #23
    Annasopra
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    robman60 wrote: »
    Is general society, it's pretty acceptable to be right wing. On Boards, however, people tend to be neo-liberal, so it's not :P

    To me neo liberalism is extremely right wing

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #24
    MaxSteele
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    Not on Boards.ie anyway, that's for sure. Just look at threads all to do with black taxi drivers, Foreign aid, Travellers etc. Right wing opinions are panned to the extent of Mods threatening action and general whinging. You either embrace the majority opinionn or get told to fcuk off.


  • #25
    philologos
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    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    In public, in this country?
    I guess I'm a bit of a liberal, am I? I don't have any idea to be honest.
    But I often hear people talk about being right wing as a negative in todays world.

    Right-wing has to do with economics as does left wing.

    Liberal and conservative are to do with social issues.

    One can be left wing and conservative or right wing and liberal.

    Which do you mean?


  • #26
    Fukuyama
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Fukuyama


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    In public, in this country?
    I guess I'm a bit of a liberal, am I? I don't have any idea to be honest.
    But I often hear people talk about being right wing as a negative in todays world.

    I consider myself right wing.

    Not in the racist, facist stereotype however.

    I simply believe social supports have gotten too big. The whole cradle to grave thing is taken literally by a large segment of the population.

    I believe in the ability of anyone to make something of themselves and that hard work is rewarded - maybe not right away.

    What I despise are people who moan and groan about the 'system' or the government fúcking them over.

    Many times, people stop their education after third level (or even second level), get a job, and are shocked one day in 20 years time to find out their job is no longer needed by humanity.

    Always up-skill. Always work hard (but work smart). Read. And if you ever find yourself blaming 'them' for your troubles, take a long walk off a short pier.


  • #27
    Lollipops23
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    I'm pretty left wing and liberal, so I automatically disagree with most things the right-wing has to say.

    I don't think it's a "fashion" thing; certain social issues have come to the fore in recent years and in this country the church's loosening grip on our mentality has contributed to more independent thought.


  • #28
    jaffacakesyum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    CKonetheonlyone wrote: »
    Funny that, my experience is equal and opposite
    mango salsa wrote: »
    You must be reading a completely different boards.ie to me

    Perhaps it's more that there is a significant section who are extremely liberal and they are the most vocal. Sure the amount of anti-Catholic threads or people screaming "that's racist" to something that's clearly not or the "I'm going to dress my five year old boy as a fairy just to stick it to the gender stereotyping" crowd.

    I think there's certainly a lot of posts on boards.ie that are very conservative but I think they come from a minority of posters. If that makes sense.


  • #29
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    philologos wrote: »
    Right-wing has to do with economics as does left wing.

    Liberal and conservative are to do with socil issues.

    One can be left wing and conservative or right wing and liberal.

    Which do you mean?
    I guess I mean both in a sense
    You'll have to excuse my ignorance surrounding the terminology however.


  • #30
    djflawless
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    i think you need 2 wings nowadays


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  • #31
    sock puppet
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    philologos wrote: »
    Right-wing has to do with economics as does left wing.

    Liberal and conservative are to do with socil issues.

    Sorry what? Free trade is one of the key components of liberalism.


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