2013 NFL DRAFT

malistheman wrote: »

Apparently the QB's aren't looking good ?

From what I've seen it hasn't been pretty!

I presume it's tough though working with new receivers!

Tyrann Mathieu is someone I'd be very interested in. The off the field stuff is relatively minor (he smoked weed a few times), on the field he has a ton of natural ability and he could be polished into a very very good all-round corner given a few years. Good few teams out there who would be willing to take him.

robluvshandegg wrote: »

Tyrann Mathieu is someone I'd be very interested in. The off the field stuff is relatively minor (he smoked weed a few times), on the field he has a ton of natural ability and he could be polished into a very very good all-round corner given a few years. Good few teams out there who would be willing to take him.

He continually failed drugs tests and ended up getting suspended from LSU. Then rather than going down the small schools route he decided he would go back to LSU as a student and possibly get back in their good books and enter himself into a rehabilitation programme. Not long after he got caught in a drugs bust with a number of other former LSU players and although he was only charged with Simple Possession, one of the guys was charged with possession with intent to distribute.

At the very least teams have to be worried that he keeps making terrible decisions and puts him self in stupid situations. Then add to that the fact that his coverage ability as a corner was in doubt even when he had his great season in 2011 and he is a bit undersized for the position. I think if he does well in the pre-draft process the late rounds may be the best possible scenario for him.

HigginsJ wrote: »

I love the Honeybadger but he has badly let himself down over the last 18 months. He prob wont be drafted IMO.

Aside from that his size is poor for the way he plays the game. I would imagine that being moved to safety is prob being his best chance to succeed. He has great ball hawking ability.

He will definately be picked up but way down the pecking order

I'm sure this will change with the combine and pro day but I have had a shot at creating a mock draft




1. Kansas City Chiefs: Luke Joeckel - OT - TexasA&M. The Chiefs badly need a QB but right now it would be way too much of a reach. There is still time for Geno Smith to impress and push himself into this spot

2. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jarvis Jones - OLB - Georgia. The Jags need help getting to the QB. Jones has been a college sensation. Has a few health questions to answer but the obvious Von Miller comparisons make Jones a great pick here.

3. Oakland Raiders: Star Lotulelei - NT - Utah. Tommy Kelly and Richard Seymour are nearing the end of the line. Raiders need help at all defensive positions so best available and Lotulelei can be a star.

4. Philadelphia Eagles: Dee Milliner - CB - Alabama. Asomugha and Rodgers-Cromartie may not be back next year so Millimer fills a big hole and is one of the best available players

5. Detroit Lions: Bjorn Werner - DE - Florida State. The Lions need a corner or safety but none re worth picking here. Werner can replace an aging Van Den Bosch or Cliff Avril if he is not re-signed

6. Cleveland Browns: Damontre Moore - DE - Texas A&M. The Browns have one of the better young D's in the NFL and Moore could be the final piece

7. Arizona Cardinals: Eric Fisher - OT - Central Michigan. Kevin Kolb is worth one more shot. No QB would have been successful behind the mess of an o-line that the cards had. Fisher had a great senior bowl and could possibly climb to the Eagles at 4 if Joeckel goes 1.

8. Buffalo Bills: Geno Smith - QB - West Virginia. The Bills finally get a franchise QB. Their is alot of talent on offence with Stevie Johnson and CJ Spiller as dynamic weapons. Smith can get the best out of them.

9. New York Jets: Keenan Allen - WR - California. The Jets are tied to Sanchez for one more season. Adding Allen will give him at least a chance to be successful. At worst their rookie QB next year will have someone to work with

10. Tennessee Titans: Chance Warmack - OG - Alabama. Guards are not worth a top 10 pick. Warmack is a special case. CJ2K and Jake Locker will love playing behind this guy

11. San Diego Chargers: Lane Johnson - OT - Oklahoma. Phillip Rivers needs to be protected. Johnson had a great senior bowl week and is well worth the pick here.

12. Miami Dolphins: Ezekial Ansah - DE - BYU. Dolphins need WR and DE help. Ansah is a very raw JPP type player. Another who could transform a sensational senior bowl performance into an enhance draft stock.

13. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Jonathan Banks - CB- Mississippi St. The Bucs apparently love Banks so here they go.

14. Carolina Panthers: Jonathan Hankins - NT - Ohio State. The Panters were pretty poor against the run this year. Hankinsis a huge upgrade over what they have already.

15. New Orleans Saints: Dion Jordan - DE/OLB - Oregon. Jordan is an athletic phenom who will help the Saints D. He can play end in 4-3 or OLB in 3-4 and is athletic enough to drop into coverage

16. St. Louis Rams: Cordarelle Paterson - WR - Tennessee. The Rams would love to take an oline man here but no one is worth the pick. Paterson teamed with Amendola and Givens will give Sam Bradford a chance to be successful

17. Pittsburgh Steelers: Barkevious Mingo - DE/OLB - LSU. The Steelers need to get younger on D. Mingo looks a natural fit as a rush OLB and could be a replacement for James Harrison

18. Dallas Cowboys: Kenny Vaccaro - SS - Texas. Monte Kiffen means a 4-3 2 deep safety look. The Cowboys personnel is not really suitable. Irregardless they need an upgrade at safety and Vaccaro is that guy

19. New York Giants: Kevin Minter - LB - LSU. Chase Blackburn is a very average player. Minter is similar to Luke Kuechley a s this will give the Giants D a chance to get some stops and to cover TE's.

20. Chicago Bears: Tyler Eifert - TE - Notre Dame. Jay Cutler needs someone other than Brandon Marshall to throw the ball too. Eifert is an underrated blocker and is a great pass catcher

21. Cincinati Bengals: Manti Te'o -LB - Notre Dame. Te'o can replace Rey Maleluga in the middle of the Bengals D. Te'o was poor in the BCS title game and the hoax involving a fake girlfriend who fake died could yet push his stock lower. For now he remains in the 1st

22. St. Louis Rams: Jonathan Cooper - OG - North Carolina. A badly needed upgrade to the Rams oline. Protecting Sam Bradford has to become a priority

23. Minnesota Vikings: Justin Hunter - WR - Tennessee. Irregardless of Percy Harvin being resigned the Vikes need more help at WR.

24. Indianapolis Colts: Sheldon Richarson - DT - Missouri. The Colts transitioned to a 4-3 D this year so need help. Richardson can play both DE & DT and is a very effective pass-rusher

25. Seattle Seahawks: Sam Montgomery - DE - LSU. Chris Clemons injury hurt them against the Falcons. Bruce Irvin may never be anything more than a situational pass-rusher. Montgomery has the potential to be a lot more

26. GreenBay Packers: Zach Ertz - TE - Stanford. Jermichael Finley is terribly inconsistent and is due $8million dollars. He is unlikely to be back so will need to be replaced

27. Houston Texans: Alec Ogletree - LB - Georgia. Bradie James is aging and Brian Cushing is coming off an ACL injury. Ogletree can cover both or start if either struggles

28. Denver Broncos: Jesse Williams - NT - Alabama. Derek Wolfe was picked last year but spent alot of time at DE. Williams is a no nonsense NT who will help free up pass rushers

29. New England Patriots: Quinton Patton - WR - Louisiana Tech. As a complement to Brandon Lloyd or a replacement for Wes Welker, Patton is now a 1st rounder after a sterling week at the senior bowl

30. Atlanta Falcons: Eddie Lacy - RB - Alabama. Lacy was excellent all year but his performances to end the year against Georgia and Notre Dame really stood out

31. San Francisco 49ers: Eric Reed - S - LSU. Reid offers great value at this point and can be a nice complement to the 49ers secondary

32. Baltimore Ravens: Khaseem Greene - LB - Rutgers. If you have been living on the moon you may not be aware that Ray Lewis is retiring. Greene is a very different type of LB to Lewis but can help convering Gronk and Aaron Hernandez.

I think people are mis-remembering RG3 a lot. He was already the near-consensus #2 pick before the combine, all his height and already-known ability did was make it more of an open question as to if he was better than Luck.

Newton too was the best QB prospect on the board so it's not like he came out of no where to steal top billing, I'd be safe in saying the smart money was on him being a very high pick given ability and the desperate need for QBs at a lot of teams.

What round to you all expect Tyler Bray to be drafted? I'd like for the Titans to grab him if it is the third round or after.

HigginsJ wrote: »

3rd seems about right.

Smith, Barkley, Glennon, Wilson, Nassib and EJ Manuel should all be picked up before him so unless something ridiculous happens in the 1st round he'll be there.

Are you not sure about Jake Locker?

I'm not convinced Jake Locker is accurate enough to ever be a viable franchise QB. He's been unlucky with injuries so I want to give him another year to see what he's got.It's a pity really because he's a very likeable guy who is very talented in certain areas of his game. I'd just like for the titans to be prepared. I'd rather Lockers back up be a young guy with potential than a vet who is past his best.

Bjorn Werner will do well to crack the top 15 if you ask me, so overrated imho.

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

Why do you say he's over-rated? He's pretty damn good if you ask me, and very little separating him and Damontre Moore as the top 4-3 DEs in the draft. I'd almost prefer Werner to Moore, but I always prefer the strength guys more than the speed guys so it's personal preference. Plus, I much prefer Werner's versatility to Moores.

Yeah, I'm hoping the Lions select him with their #5 pick.
The DE's last season were garbage & now that Vanden Bosch has been cut & Avril likely to leave in free agency, the DE position needs new talent.

Is Geno Smith really the best quarterback in this draft? I think the difference's between him and Matt Barkley are actually fairly minimal. Both have decent potential and both have drawbacks that could be cruelly exposed if not nurtured and protected in the right system.

One idea I like for the Chiefs is drafting Luke Joeckel (A safer pick), then grabbing Barkley in the second.