Single life on the dole...

Israel_Dagg · 26-01-2013 05:06PM

smileyj1987 wrote: »

The people hit hardest by the recession have been builders , it took four years for them to get trained if they where an Electrician , Plumber , Plasterer or Carpenter .

So how are these people not intelligent ?

Ha. The people I see leaving the country are the ones who left school at 16 to go labouring.

Also did people expect to have building jobs for life? What happened when they were 50 and they could lift a block because they're backs were fooked because of 30 years of ****?

Frank Black · 26-01-2013 05:07PM

FearDark wrote: »

I did it for a while... It sucked. I mean ****ing sucked. Borrow a few k, get a loan, rob a post office, tap your granny up for cash. TRAVEL Not two weeks in costa del wankhole or playa del dick. Move. You are appreciated elsewhere. Out of twenty or so friends of mine two of us are HAPPILY living abroad, the other 18 are on the dole literally wasting their lives. You get one chance. Six months on the dole is too much, a year is unforgivable. I look on facebook every day, nothing but people whinging about no jobs, govt, levvys etc. Shut the **** up, get out and have a damn life. Theres more to getting your 180 on a Wednesday and drinking it on a Saturday night, you are a loser, a waste of life. Stop your whinging, everyone has the chance to have a great life. Make something of it, force yourself. I'm absolutely sick of Irish people complaining and doing absolutely NOTHING about it, stop waiting on mass protests outside the Dail. Be an individual and make something of YOUR life. We are a bunch of whingers, sometimes I wonder if we enjoy being persecuted so we can have a good old bitch about it. I'm sick to my bollicks of ***** on facebook and other social media groups moaning about their lives and blaming everything on the fact that "there are no jobs" but you sit at home and do ****all about it, what the **** are you waiting for. Tick tock, thats the sound of your life fading away. Lazy thats what you are.

Tl;dr. I'm ****ing sick of Irish people blaming everything on the fact that there are no jobs when they won't even consider the option of moving to get a job but instead PREFER to whinge about it.

So, you're great and your friends are lazy knobs.

See how much more concise that was?

smileyj1987 · 26-01-2013 05:11PM

Israel_Dagg wrote: »

Ha. The people I see leaving the country are the ones who left school at 16 to go labouring.

Also did people expect to have building jobs for life? What happened when they were 50 and they could lift a block because they're backs were fooked because of 30 years of ****?

Well they are vitally needed for every country how do you think we have Roads , Houses and all the buildings we need they just didn't magically appear . Some people are also better suited to working with their hands because I know alot of people who work in offices and struggle to put flat pack furniture together .

Will I Amnt · 26-01-2013 05:13PM

People have a right to whinge. If you don't want to hear it, don't be in contact with them.
People who whinge about people whinging are just as bad.
People who think they are the greatest thing on earth because they moved country and got a job and whinge about people back home whinging are the worst of the worst.

Czarcasm · 26-01-2013 05:15PM

FearDark wrote: »

You don't need to be a solicitor or a doctor to get work. If you have a skill, even a non qualified one there is always somewhere that desperatley needs you. Where I am we can't even get labourers. People are too lazy to even research.

And there you go. Laziness and whining aren't specifically Irish traits, but the likes of facebook and so on are like a ready made audience for these whingers. I used work with plenty of whingers who couldn't bear the thought that somebody was doing better than them, yet they chose to do nothing to better themselves. These people are everywhere OP in every country in the world and even worse online because they get to meet like minded people with the same lazy attitude who validate their opinions.

Now you can either let it frustrate you, or you can do something about it yourself. I choose to tune out from these people every time I meet them. I don't have any time for negative people. I'm not on facebook so their negativity affects me less than if I had to look at that shìte every day.

So I do understand where you're coming from. But you can do something about it- cut them off facebook, cut them out of your life, and get on with the good life and the plans you have laid out ahead of you to better yourself and your own life.

sock puppet · 26-01-2013 05:16PM

FearDark wrote: »

Facebook was used as an example, not used as the totality of my point. 20 friends, not facebook friends, real life friends from my local town. Lazy ****s would perfer to get the dole on a Wednesday and gamble/drink it until the following Wednesday. I'm just sick of the facebook whinges. Post #2 is always an easy thankswhore. "I wholeheartedly disagree with OP while at the same time make him out to be a tool" It's rather easy and predictable.

If you're so motivated, why are you friends with such lazy people then? Why did you never seek out people more like yourself?

FearDark · 26-01-2013 05:17PM

cambo2008 wrote: »

People have a right to whinge. If you don't want to hear it, don't be in contact with them.
People who whinge about people whinging are just as bad.
People who think they are the greatest thing on earth because they moved country and got a job and whinge about people back home whinging are the worst of the worst.

Yeah, you're right. I should go home and move in with my parents and live off the dole so I don't sound like a big cock on the internet.

smellsfunny · 26-01-2013 05:17PM

Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a ****ing big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suit on hire purchase in a range of ****ing fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the **** you are on Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing ****ing junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, ****ed up brats you spawned to replace yourselves. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got the dole?

Toby Take a Bow · 26-01-2013 05:19PM

FearDark wrote: »

Sounds like politician spin. The kind that says that numbers on the live register has fallen this year, yeah cos' we all ****ed off to a different country. 15% the back of me sack.

I thought you wanted people to get out of the country?

Anyway, personally, life on the dole is difficult enough without wasting the money on drinking and gambling. I wonder how true their experience is: after rent and bills have been paid, how much exactly do these people have to spend on these activities? Are you venting about a half-pint and a euro bet on the horses? It's terrible, Joe.

hatrickpatrick · 26-01-2013 05:20PM

People shouldn't be forced to leave their country to survive, particularly when scum like Seanie, Bertie and others are still living here, and many of them living in luxury at that.

The minute any kind of rebellion starts in this country sign me right up. I'm honestly shocked that we haven't guillotined anyone yet, we're bending over every time the elite comes around to milk us again. It's depressing as f*ck.

Will I Amnt · 26-01-2013 05:20PM

FearDark wrote: »

Yeah, you're right. I should go home and move in with my parents and live off the dole so I don't sound like a big cock on the internet.

No. Just get on with what you're doing.
Whinging on the Internet about people whinging on the Internet is just stupid.

Israel_Dagg · 26-01-2013 05:22PM

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Well they are vitally needed for every country how do you think we have Roads , Houses and all the buildings we need they just didn't magically appear . Some people are also better suited to working with their hands because I know alot of people who work in offices and struggle to put flat pack furniture together .

Eh civil engineers. Not builders. Builders wouldn't be able build a road without instructions. They wouldn't have a clue tbh.

Synyster Shadow · 26-01-2013 05:22PM

OP your a cool dude....what day do you pick up your dole? before or after following your friends on F.B all day? (not a job btw)

i am a web designer out of work for a year...you think there is alot of jobs in that sector you are very wrong. i am now an apprentice mechanic but even after looking it still took 10 months to find something which according to you i'm "lazy" not due to business's closing down and taking advantage of slave labour (job bridge) instead of hiring.

smileyj1987 · 26-01-2013 05:25PM

Israel_Dagg wrote: »

Eh civil engineers. Not builders. Builders wouldn't be able build a road without instructions. They wouldn't have a clue tbh.

But do the Civil engineers actually lay the road or construct the houses they are an integral part of the building trade because they provide the blue prints and measurements but somebody has to do the messy work of making them become a building from the plans .
I'm sure there are plenty of civil engineers sitting at home twiddling their thumbs with nothing to do especially if they have a family and can't leave the country .

boomshakalaka · 26-01-2013 05:25PM

most people on the dole can't afford to move?

Israel_Dagg · 26-01-2013 05:27PM

smileyj1987 wrote: »

But do the Civil engineers actually lay the road or construct the houses they are an integral part of the building trade because they provide the blue prints and measurements but somebody has to do the messy work of making them become a building from the plans .
I'm sure there are plenty of civil engineers sitting at home twiddling their thumbs with nothing to do especially if they have a family and can't leave the country .

Are you saying builders build the road? :pac:

Ever see the civil engineering contractors? They do the roads. And the ones laying the road know the technical side of designing the roads.

And are you saying a road is like a house?

Annasopra · 26-01-2013 05:28PM

igorbiscan wrote: »

Im sick of people complaining about complaining.....

So you're complaining about complainers who complain about complainers!

Annasopra · 26-01-2013 05:29PM

boomshakalaka wrote: »

most people on the dole can't afford to move?

You'd swear they were filthy rich reading AH

enfant terrible · 26-01-2013 05:30PM

FearDark wrote: »

I did it for a while... It sucked. I mean ****ing sucked. Borrow a few k, get a loan, rob a post office, tap your granny up for cash. TRAVEL Not two weeks in costa del wankhole or playa del dick. Move. You are appreciated elsewhere. Out of twenty or so friends of mine two of us are HAPPILY living abroad, the other 18 are on the dole literally wasting their lives. You get one chance. Six months on the dole is too much, a year is unforgivable. I look on facebook every day, nothing but people whinging about no jobs, govt, levvys etc. Shut the **** up, get out and have a damn life. Theres more to getting your 180 on a Wednesday and drinking it on a Saturday night, you are a loser, a waste of life. Stop your whinging, everyone has the chance to have a great life. Make something of it, force yourself. I'm absolutely sick of Irish people complaining and doing absolutely NOTHING about it, stop waiting on mass protests outside the Dail. Be an individual and make something of YOUR life. We are a bunch of whingers, sometimes I wonder if we enjoy being persecuted so we can have a good old bitch about it. I'm sick to my bollicks of ***** on facebook and other social media groups moaning about their lives and blaming everything on the fact that "there are no jobs" but you sit at home and do ****all about it, what the **** are you waiting for. Tick tock, thats the sound of your life fading away. Lazy thats what you are.

Tl;dr. I'm ****ing sick of Irish people blaming everything on the fact that there are no jobs when they won't even consider the option of moving to get a job but instead PREFER to whinge about it.

Stop whinging

smellsfunny · 26-01-2013 05:31PM

I have to move from Galway to Dublin for a 22,000 euro a year job. Its starting in two weeks. I was previously earning 34,000 a year in Galway and was working for nearly 5 years but the company closed down. I have been looking for a job for nearly two years now, have great experience and worked on numerous projects, and after a couple of interviews this is the best job offer I could get, had to take a graduate role at 22,000 and move to frickin Dublin.

Not everyone wants to leave the country. I did the travel thing for six months to Australia and you get pissed off with lying on all beach all day drinking after a two weeks and then its just the same as Ireland except warmer.

Israel_Dagg · 26-01-2013 05:33PM

smellsfunny wrote: »

I have to move from Galway to Dublin for a 22,000 euro a year job. Its starting in two weeks. I was previously earning 34,000 a year in Galway and was working for nearly 5 years but the company closed down. I have been looking for a job for nearly two years now, have great experience and worked on numerous projects, and after a couple of interviews this is the best job offer I could get, had to take a graduate role at 22,000 and move to frickin Dublin.

Not everyone wants to leave the country. I did the travel thing for six months to Australia and you get pissed off with lying on all beach all day drinking after a two weeks and then its just the same as Ireland except warmer.

What sector is the job in? :P

Forest Demon · 26-01-2013 05:39PM

Somebody has to be on the dole. It might as well be someone who enjoys it.

mufcboy1999 · 26-01-2013 05:41PM

life on minimum wage isnt too much better than the dole, slaving away doing over 40+ hours per week and coming out with just barely over 100 euro more than the dole is soul crushing.

its nearly impossible to save on min wage with rent and other bills etc... this country is a shambles and these dead end jobs are nearly all thats left.

COYVB · 26-01-2013 05:41PM

smellsfunny wrote: »

Not everyone wants to leave the country. I did the travel thing for six months to Australia and you get pissed off with lying on all beach all day drinking after a two weeks and then its just the same as Ireland except warmer.

"doing the travel thing" does not equate to lying on a beach drinking for most people. what you're describing is "doing the holiday thing"

smellsfunny · 26-01-2013 05:47PM

Israel_Dagg wrote: »

What sector is the job in? :P

Programming, the amount of foreigners in the area is quite shocking. There coming over and taking all the high paid jobs because companies know that the courses in Ireland are complete and utter bull crap. There's way too much emphasis on theory and not implementing constant projects.

I only specified in one area in my previous job in but most roles these days need a broad knowledge of a couple of languages.

Randall Floyd · 26-01-2013 05:50PM

What about people on the dole that would like to go abroad for work but can't afford it?

hatrickpatrick · 26-01-2013 05:51PM

smellsfunny wrote: »

Programming, the amount of foreigners in the area is quite shocking. There coming over and taking all the high paid jobs and our women, and acting like they own the feckin' place because companies know that the courses in Ireland are complete and utter bull crap. There's way too much emphasis on theory and not implementing constant projects.

I only specified in one area in my previous job in but most roles these days need a broad knowledge of a couple of languages.

FYP

smellsfunny · 26-01-2013 05:52PM

COYVB wrote: »

"doing the travel thing" does not equate to lying on a beach drinking for most people. what you're describing is "doing the holiday thing"

I was working a month on and a month off when I was there but I couldn't get a job in area I was qualified in and got pissed of picking fruit. I guess it's not for everybody. Wouldn't mind England at all, or going to Canada if I got a job I'm qualified in before I go over.

Synyster Shadow · 26-01-2013 05:54PM

smellsfunny wrote: »

Programming, the amount of foreigners in the area is quite shocking. There coming over and taking all the high paid jobs because companies know that the courses in Ireland are complete and utter bull crap. There's way too much emphasis on theory and not implementing constant projects.

I only specified in one area in my previous job in but most roles these days need a broad knowledge of a couple of languages.

that's the problem i have in web design....i think irish people should get preference when there qualified and experienced enough but never seems to be the case as the foreigners are the ones in charge of hiring now...

Grayson · 26-01-2013 05:55PM

boomshakalaka wrote: »

most people on the dole can't afford to move?

Go to college.

Then move if you still can't get a job. Plenty of jobs for people with any old degree, even if it's teaching english.

Despite the fact that i gave up reading the OP halfway through, I think I would agree with him.

If your young, unemployed and just waiting for a job longterm, go and do something about it.

Single life on the dole...

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