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Ireland Wolfhounds vs England Saxons, Fri 25 Jan 7:30pm; Live on RTÉ

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  • #182
    awec
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    Scrum is pure sh!t.


  • #183
    Micky Dolenz
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    Scrum is shocking.


  • #184
    DDC1990
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    Kilcoyne did well there.

    EDIT: The whole scrum did excellent on the next scrum. Bent must be mentally strong. Getting killed, but kept it together!

    And a penalty :) How did Coughlan get that ball so quickly :)


  • #185
    Almaviva
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    Stheno wrote: »
    Don't think I've ever heard RTE commentators be so negative about a player as they've just been about Bent

    If he were really Irish they wouldnt be quite so blunt.


  • #186
    ongarite
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    How the hell did we win that scrum?


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  • #187
    decisions
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    I saw some of Bent in the itm cup and he was a solid scrummager.


  • #188
    Quint2010
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    Quint2010 wrote: »
    I mean questions must be asked of Michael Bent and to a lesser extent Kilcoyne.

    Penalty try coming up here
    duckysauce wrote: »
    peno try coming up
    Clegg wrote: »
    Penalty try coming up here.

    Ha we spoke too soon!!


  • #189
    Fireball07
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    Wow, got lucky there. Well done.


  • #190
    Clareman
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    Did Toner and Stevenson swap sides in the scrum there?


  • #191
    gooch2k9
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    decisions wrote: »
    I saw some of Bent in the itm cup and he was a solid scrummager.

    Whats the standard like in that? PRO 12 ish?


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  • #192
    duckysauce
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    Quint2010 wrote: »
    Ha we spoke too soon!!

    :pac: gwan da hounds :pac::pac::pac:


  • #193
    4PP
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    Can't see the game but any front row relying on DT in the engine room will obviously be in trouble.
    6'10" is great in the lineout, but if there's no muscle behind it you may as well have ROG in there......


  • #194
    ballygowan1
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    Tox56 wrote: »
    Would Hagan or Archer have fared much better? :confused:

    It's the fact that he was brought over and hadnt even played here


  • #195
    awec
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    Get court and fitz on


  • #196
    Glass Prison 1214
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    ballygowan1 wrote: »
    Michael Bent is getting murdered out there. How the hell did he get drafted into te Irish squad and prevented young Irish players getting their chance.

    It's disgraceful really

    what young player was he preventing getting a chance? because the problem was that there wasn't a young player capable of coming in.


  • #197
    Lelantos
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    gooch2k9 wrote: »

    Whats the standard like in that? PRO 12 ish?
    Treviso v Embra standard


  • #198
    [Jackass]
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    Commentators being WAY too harsh on Bent there. Granted he got mullered on technique a couple of times, but a lot of the time in this half Bent was locking out, but it was the communal strength from behind in the English scrum that was following through. You can't expect a prop to lock out his oppenent and then hold off the surge of 7 other players, the power just never came from behind him.

    He locked out the scrum superbly towards the end there, but the commentators seem hell bent (pardon the pun) with pinning the blame on Bent!


  • #199
    DDC1990
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    Im completly biased, but does anyone else think that James Coughlan is head an shoulders above any other player out there?

    He's doing nothing fancy, but everything he's doing is effective :)


  • #200
    4PP
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    Almaviva wrote: »
    If he were really Irish they wouldnt be quite so blunt.
    WTF???? really Irish??? get over yourself son. You don't have to eat spuds & dribble into your pint to be Irish!


  • #201
    Tox56
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    How is Jackson playing? Madigan to come on at HT?


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  • #202
    thomond2006
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    I'm intrigued to see when Madigan and Keatley will come on.


  • #203
    Banbridgeman2
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    Glass Prison 1214 wrote: »

    what young player was he preventing getting a chance? because the problem was that there wasn't a young player capable of coming in.
    The magnificent Stephen archer who Thornley believes can replace BJ Botha


  • #204
    Quint2010
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    Have to say Coughlin is having a stormer. He is cleaning up brilliantly behind a retreating scrum and is generally everywhere. Really good performance from him.


  • #205
    thomond2006
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    Coughlan and Marshall have played well for Ireland, Marshall has got a great pass.


  • #206
    corny
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    4PP wrote: »
    Can't see the game but any front row relying on DT in the engine room will obviously be in trouble.
    6'10" is great in the lineout, but if there's no muscle behind it you may as well have ROG in there......

    He's 20 odd stone... plenty of muscle just not enough aggression.


  • #207
    Fireball07
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    Good start but once England realised they had the dominance in the scrum, they kept things tighter and we couldn't hold the ball. So yeah, good that we're 10-0 up, the defence has been good.


    Coughlan is immense though.


  • #208
    Banbridgeman2
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    Marshall stand out performer for me


  • #209
    Tox56
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    corny wrote: »
    He's 20 odd stone... plenty of muscle just not enough aggression.

    I would have thought Stevenson would be behind the TH side no?


  • #210
    [Jackass]
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    DDC1990 wrote: »
    Im completly biased, but does anyone else think that James Coughlan is head an shoulders above any other player out there?

    He's doing nothing fancy, but everything he's doing is effective :)

    He's having a fantastic game to be fair to him. Best Irish player out there in the first half. Shows good leadership too.


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  • #211
    Fireball07
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    Tox56 wrote: »
    How is Jackson playing? Madigan to come on at HT?

    He's doing grand....diidn't really see the ball after 20 minutes though. I think Madigan to come on would be good.


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