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Anything new? Delours Price

  • 24-01-2013 05:29PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭


    After being found dead at home, the tapes and transcripts from her interviews with Boston College now become available under an agreement made at the time of recording...... Do we think it will bring up anything new?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-21181174

    Pah...if someone can edit the thread title I would appreciate it.. :( Dolours Price...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,935 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    I'd imagine the interviews would be more of the same that she's been saying for the past few years....admas directed the killing of jean mcconville, on the army council etc...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I would say Gerry is sweating


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Who's Delours Price?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    It doesn't really matter what she has said because it even if it was true it's still hearsay.

    There would need to be a flood of people with corroborating dates, times and locations to give her allegations any weight which is not likely.


  • Administrators Posts: 55,037 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    It doesn't really matter what she has said because it even if it was true it's still hearsay.

    There would need to be a flood of people with corroborating dates, times and locations to give her allegations any weight which is not likely.
    Depends what you mean by give them weight.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    awec wrote: »
    Depends what you mean by give them weight.

    You know.. corroborate the allegations.

    Anyone can say anything about anyone else.

    I could say you threatened me with a hammer but people probably wouldn't believe it. If I say you threatened me with a hammer, gave the time and place and provided a couple of witnesses who were able to confirm that you did indeed have a hammer and were wielding it in a threatening manner then my allegations would have weight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭AEDIC


    It doesn't really matter what she has said because it even if it was true it's still hearsay.

    There would need to be a flood of people with corroborating dates, times and locations to give her allegations any weight which is not likely.

    true... or would the information that comes out corroborate other peoples allegations giving them weight.?

    There were strenuous efforts to keep this information under wraps as per the agreement along with all of the other contributors interviews etc.

    I just hope this isnt another excuse for knuckle draggers on either side to take us back 20 years.


  • Administrators Posts: 55,037 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    You know.. corroborate the allegations.

    Anyone can say anything about anyone else.

    I could say you threatened me with a hammer but people probably wouldn't believe it. If I say you threatened me with a hammer, gave the time and place and provided a couple of witnesses who were able to confirm that you did indeed have a hammer and were wielding it in a threatening manner then my allegations would have weight.
    Yea, in a court of law.

    But of course, if she said anything that makes the IRA look bad we'll be hearing how she's talking nonsense and telling lies etc etc.

    If she says stuff that makes the IRA look ok it'll be good old reliable Dolours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    AEDIC wrote: »
    true... or would the information that comes out corroborate other peoples allegations giving them weight.?

    I'm not sure tbh. I haven't been following the issue very closely.
    There were strenuous efforts to keep this information under wraps as per the agreement along with all of the other contributors interviews etc.

    I just hope this isnt another excuse for knuckle draggers on either side to take us back 20 years.

    I agree. I can't see how, even if it were confirmed that GA was a senior IRA figure, it would lead to unrest. Imo Adams would probably just resign and fade into the background.
    awec wrote: »
    Yea, in a court of law.

    But of course, if she said anything that makes the IRA look bad we'll be hearing how she's talking nonsense and telling lies etc etc.

    If she says stuff that makes the IRA look ok it'll be good old reliable Dolours.

    I think the people who think the IRA were either good or bad have already made up their minds.

    Fwiw I don't think there are any 'good guys' in a conflict.

    I take your point though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I don't really understand the hysteria over past involvement in the IRA. We spent all those years telling them to use political methods to solve their problems and now that the terrorists have become politicians people harp on about the past as if it's a surprise.

    Just get on with it.


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  • Administrators Posts: 55,037 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I don't really understand the hysteria over past involvement in the IRA. We spent all those years telling them to use political methods to solve their problems and now that the terrorists have become politicians people harp on about the past as if it's a surprise.

    Just get on with it.
    I think the issue is more about any names she might drop. Especially people who have denied involvement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I don't really understand the hysteria over past involvement in the IRA.

    I think it's because Adams has vehemently denied being in the IRA.

    If it can be proved (or at least good evidence produced) that Adams was in the IRA it hurts his credibility because it means he's been lying all these years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭chughes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I think it's because Adams has vehemently denied being in the IRA.

    If it can be proved (or at least good evidence produced) that Adams was in the IRA it hurts his credibility because it means he's been lying all these years.
    Yes, a lying politician would be a real shock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Edit, edit, edit, publish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭Luca Brasi


    It doesn't really matter what she has said because it even if it was true it's still hearsay.

    There would need to be a flood of people with corroborating dates, times and locations to give her allegations any weight which is not likely.


    He can continue lying in safety so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭GRMA


    RIP

    Hopefully her sister will be released soon

    Mackers (who incidentally is/was a close friend with Tom McFeely of Priory hall infamy, he worked for him on building projects) and Ed Moloney must be rubbing their hands at the idea of another book and more money

    The entire Boston College project is shameful - it's a money spinner rather than a proper historical archive/resource.

    The Irish government did something similar and took statements from IRA and Free State veterans and kept them under lock and key for decades until ALL of the people who contributed died. As such they were only released a few years ago and have been published in a wonderful new book the name of which escapes me at present.

    It is the way the Boston College project should have been done. But greed led it to be done this way which may put peoples lives and liberty at risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Truman Burbank


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I don't really understand the hysteria over past involvement in the IRA. We spent all those years telling them to use political methods to solve their problems and now that the terrorists have become politicians people harp on about the past as if it's a surprise.

    Just get on with it.

    Once a murderer, always a murderer. They are the true ScumLords and ScumLadies. Think of the hysteria of their tortured, maimed and blown-to-bits victims.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0124/364293-veteran-republican-dolours-price-dies-aged-61/

    That RTE headline should read "Terrorist" not "Republican"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭GRMA


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0124/364293-veteran-republican-dolours-price-dies-aged-61/

    That RTE headline should read "Terrorist" not "Republican"
    No it shouldn't.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    GRMA wrote: »
    No it shouldn't.

    Are you seriously saying she was not a terrorist?
    Bombing indiscriminately. 1 person was killed and 200 others wounded.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism

    1.
    the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
    2.
    the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
    3.
    a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/republican

    1.
    of, pertaining to, or of the nature of a republic.
    2.
    favoring a republic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭GRMA


    I don't think Dan Breen , Tom Barry, Patrick Pearse, James Connolly or any of the men and women who fought during 1916, the Tan War, Civil war etc are "terrorists".... so I don't think she is.... I'm not a hypocrite


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    GRMA wrote: »
    I don't think Dan Breen , Tom Barry, Patrick Pearse, James Connolly or any of the men and women who fought during 1916, the Tan War, Civil war etc are "terrorists".... so I don't think she is.... I'm not a hypocrite

    She drove an innocent woman to her death. She bombed the old bailey injuring hundreds and killing too.

    Where is the confusion about her being a terrorist?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    She drove an innocent woman to her death. She bombed the old bailey injuring hundreds and killing too.

    Where is the confusion about her being a terrorist?

    Anyone who reads my posts regularly will know I have no time for the provos.
    However, this woman is dead, she left two grieving sons behind her, I see no good reason for people to rush to their keyboards to call her names (scum, terrorist etc), FFS let it go now.
    As to her claims, I would give them more credence than I give Adams denial.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭GRMA


    She drove an innocent woman to her death. She bombed the old bailey injuring hundreds and killing too.

    Where is the confusion about her being a terrorist?
    The "good old IRA" killed many informers too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭Luca Brasi


    GRMA wrote: »
    No it shouldn't.

    Anyone who can conduct a campaign of violence against people because of their religion cannot be called Republican. Check out a dictionary to see the meaning of the word.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Gerry Adams was Belfast commander of the PIRA and they killed Jean McConville.

    Groundbreaking stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭GRMA


    Luca Brasi wrote: »
    Anyone who can conduct a campaign of violence against people because of their religion cannot be called Republican. Check out a dictionary to see the meaning of the word.

    When did she or other republicans do that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭GRMA


    Anyone who reads my posts regularly will know I have no time for the provos.
    However, this woman is dead, she left two grieving sons behind her, I see no good reason for people to rush to their keyboards to call her names (scum, terrorist etc), FFS let it go now.
    As to her claims, I would give them more credence than I give Adams denial.
    A fair post

    I imagine the moderators will enforce the same regime as they did when Shane McEntee died.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭Luca Brasi


    GRMA wrote: »
    When did she or other republicans do that?

    When you ask that question you have lost all credibility.


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