Gay man gets €24,000 in discrimination case

Noel Kinsella · 23-01-2013 10:22AM

He should have got twice that compensation IMO. What is 24k nowadays ? He will probably be on the dole because there are few jobs out there the money will be gone and the people who persecuted him are still in employment, THEY should have lost their jobs. Gay people are persecuted on this Island every day and mistreated and there is nothing done about it, its funny to some people. Its a pity its not taken as serious as racism as its on a par in my opinion.

Ush1 · 23-01-2013 10:22AM

philologos wrote: »

If you want to make a thread on redefining marriage go do it. I'm going to discuss the topic at hand.

I don't believe anyone should be mistreated like that in the workplace or anywhere else.

Are we not discussing discrimination based on sexuality?

GalwayGuy2 · 23-01-2013 10:26AM

“He stated in particular that she often made comments like ‘do you like taking it up the back passage’?”

Seems less trying to get to know a gay man, and more putting him on the spot and causing him embarrassment.

orestes · 23-01-2013 10:28AM

Ush1 wrote: »

Are we not discussing discrimination based on sexuality?

I thought we were discussing a case of a gay man being awarded compensation for being harassed in the work place over his sexual orientation?

They aren't the same thing.

Ush1 · 23-01-2013 10:30AM

orestes wrote: »

I thought we were discussing a case of a gay man being awarded compensation for being harassed in the work place over his sexual orientation?

They aren't the same thing.

Yeah, well that sort of is sexuality based discrimination.

philologos · 23-01-2013 10:36AM

Ush1 wrote: »

Are we not discussing discrimination based on sexuality?

Irrespective of whether someone agrees or disagrees with something someone does or believes in it doesn't give people a carte blanche to mistreat and abuse others at work or anywhere else. Indeed I've encountered someone being mistreated about sexuality before and I stood up for him.

Yes I have Christian beliefs about marriage and sexuality but this doesn't absolve me from the responsibility to treat others with respect. I disagree, but that doesn't mean that I can't befriend those with whom I disagree.

This thread isn't about marriage so cop on and leave it out.

Canis Lupus · 23-01-2013 10:36AM

orestes wrote: »

I know you're joking (or at least I hope you are) but is still a depressinlgy large amount of people who actually think like that.

I got red carded for it

My first red card for like..... ever....

Course I was joking.

orestes · 23-01-2013 10:37AM

Ush1 wrote: »

Yeah, well that sort of is sexuality based discrimination.

But we're talking about bullying in the workplace over sexual orientation, not the whole other spectrum of sexual discrimination.

hyperborean · 23-01-2013 10:46AM

This is happening all over the place, hopefully this will give some confidence to anyone else going through it, nothing worse than when the playground comes to the workplace.

Hope he finds another job without fucking retards so he can get on with his life,

1ZRed · 23-01-2013 10:47AM

IM0 wrote: »

fair enough but why does that warrant compensation for him? I could understand if he has reports from psychologists/psychiatrists to back him up but otherwise meh

do you see what Im getting at, its a bit like the ambulance chaser USA mentality

It's still harassment. The same exact thing as harassing a black person for their skill colour.

L.Jenkins · 23-01-2013 10:51AM

It's a load of balls to discriminate against anyone for anything. I have a skin condition and was let go from my previous job, because it make others 'uncomfortable'. Adults can still be incredibly childish in this day and age over something that has no effect on them or beyond their control.

23-01-2013 11:14AM

i will never understand why people do not like gay people , we are all the same and what 2 people do in the privacy of there own home with concent is there own business

if your not hurting someone go for it , thats my motto

im glad this man ordeal is over

23-01-2013 12:10PM

Fair play to him for going through with this. That company will think twice about discriminating against its employees for anything now.

Deleted User wrote: »

i will never understand why people do not like gay people , we are all the same and what 2 people do in the privacy of there own home with concent is there own business

if your not hurting someone go for it , thats my motto

im glad this man ordeal is over

It's because gay people are perceived as "not normal". It seems to be society's knee jerk reaction to meet something against what is considered as the "norm" with fear, ignorance, hate, and sometimes anger. Could be anything though; homosexuality, mental problems, physical problems, etc. I reckon it'll be a long time before we just start accepting things and moving on.

Czarcasm · 23-01-2013 12:51PM

boneyarsebogman wrote: »

It's because gay people are perceived as "not normal". It seems to be society's knee jerk reaction to meet something against what is considered as the "norm" with fear, ignorance, hate, and sometimes anger.Could be anything though; homosexuality, mental problems, physical problems, etc. I reckon it'll be a long time before we just start accepting things and moving on.

Not to stray too far off the point but I don't think it's fair to cast aspertions on "society" as a whole when it's a minority of knuckle draggers actually have issues with anything outside their own bubble of what's considered normal in their view.

If racism, homophobia, sexism, etc were still "accepted as the norm" and people didn't question things, we'd still be as ignorant about the facts as we were only 50 years ago and society would never evolve.

Acceptance of an idea takes time, it doesn't just happen overnight, and forcing someone to "just accept that something is so", without any attempt to foster understanding and tolerance on BOTH sides, is naturally going to lead down a road to nowhere and leave both parties polarised in their opinions- some in the homosexual community will still dismiss the heterosexual community as a load of ignorant knuckle draggers, and some in the heterosexual community will still consider the homosexual community as a load of head up their own àrse tosspots, and seek to get a rise out of them for the purposes of their own entertainment.

I'm not saying it's right, but I'm saying that's MY understanding of why it actually happens.

DonkeyStyle \o/ · 23-01-2013 12:52PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Fair play to him for going through with this. That company will think twice about discriminating against its employees for anything now.

Or hopefully reign in the mouthy, socially inept twats who think they're hilarious when they make someone the butt of the joke.
People still don't seem to understand that a bit of friendly slagging is only friendly when you're actually friends with the person.
If you don't know where the line is, you shouldn't be in a managerial position... yet they're all over the place for some reason.

danslevent · 23-01-2013 12:59PM

A gay guy used to work in the same business as me but left as the manager would always comment on his sexuality "The company gay" etc. I wish he had brought the case to court and gotten some justice.

The manager was eventually sacked for other reasons but it would have happened long before if the guy had spoken up, instead of just deciding to leave. No judgement there though, not everyone would like to bring things to court like that.

squod · 23-01-2013 12:59PM

DonkeyStyle \o/ wrote: »

Or hopefully reign in the mouthy, socially inept twats who think they're hilarious when they make someone the butt of the joke.
People still don't seem to understand that a bit of friendly slagging is only friendly when you're actually friends with the person.
If you don't know where the line is, you shouldn't be in a managerial position... yet they're all over the place for some reason.

He said but. That's gay discrimination.

Penn · 23-01-2013 12:59PM

squod wrote: »

He said but. That's gay discrimination.

No it's not.

squod · 23-01-2013 01:01PM

Penn wrote: »

No it's not.

Oh yes it is..........:D

DonkeyStyle \o/ · 23-01-2013 01:07PM

It would only have been discrimination if I'd italicised the "but" and added a winky smiley at the end.

Lollipops23 · 23-01-2013 01:17PM

Delighted he won-it's not about chasing money, but for standing up to be counted and bringing it to everyone's attention that these people were wrong.

And when it comes to dealing with a company you need to hit them where it hurts-ie, their pockets.

MagicSean · 23-01-2013 01:29PM

Would this not be harassment? I'm not sure where the discrimination comes into it. Doesn't discrimination require less favourable treatment?

Death and Taxes · 23-01-2013 01:31PM

MagicSean wrote: »

Would this not be harassment? I'm not sure where the discrimination comes into it. Doesn't discrimination require less favourable treatment?

He won both on grounds of discrimination and harrassment from how I read the report.
But I get your point.

Bad Santa · 23-01-2013 01:35PM

Itzy wrote: »

I have a skin condition and was let go from my previous job, because it make others 'uncomfortable'.

That's illegal. Sue them.

Fighting Irish · 23-01-2013 01:39PM

Meh deal with it

Czarcasm · 23-01-2013 02:21PM

Bad Santa wrote: »

That's illegal. Sue them.

It'd be nigh on impossible to actually prove it, especially now that the person has moved on from the company.

In previous employment I've worked with a person whose skin condition was exacerbated by their lack of personal hygiene which made it incredibly difficult for others to work in their general vicinity. Complaints were lodged with management and as far as I'm aware, the person was let go after numerous requests from management that the person cater to their personal hygiene or face dismissal because they had a responsibility towards the health and safety of their co-workers.

It was actually chronic psoriasis, which is a manageable condition, but this person had a particularly bad odor and their psoriasis was exacerbated by the fact they would avoid regular medicated baths that would have cleared up their condition.

Annasopra · 23-01-2013 03:26PM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

It was around 13 I think. Didn't you get the form to fill in at school?

No

Ghandee · 23-01-2013 04:38PM

Fighting Irish wrote: »

Meh deal with it

Interesting contribution.

steddyeddy · 23-01-2013 04:51PM

Itzy wrote: »

It's a load of balls to discriminate against anyone for anything. I have a skin condition and was let go from my previous job, because it make others 'uncomfortable'. Adults can still be incredibly childish in this day and age over something that has no effect on them or beyond their control.

Children is the word Itzy. The people who were uncomfortable were uneducated morons.

ejmaztec · 23-01-2013 04:53PM

Fighting Irish wrote: »

Meh deal with it

He did deal with it, which was why he got €24K.

Gay man gets €24,000 in discrimination case

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