The Irish Country Music Appreciation Thread

DrumSteve · 22-01-2013 03:34PM

Cungi wrote: »

Crystal Swing creep the bejaysus out of me.
There's something really wrong with a brother and sister looking into each others eyes while singing a love song.

I dunno, If that was my sister...

22-01-2013 03:35PM

endacl wrote: »

Crystal swing needs more crystal meth.

More, are you mad?
Less crystal meth, a heavy dose of mogadon, and a long lie down.

daithi1970 · 22-01-2013 03:57PM

..I would however, pay good money to hear Daniel o Donnell do a cover of killing in the name of..

daithi

I wouldnt really

endacl · 22-01-2013 04:00PM

9959 wrote: »

More, are you mad?
Less crystal meth, a heavy dose of mogadon, and a long lie down.

No way. They have to be doing it as a way to pay some seriously hefty drugs bill. Seriously? It can't be for 'the music'.

Aglomerado · 22-01-2013 04:05PM

Mike Gardiner on Clare FM, weekend mornings. The theme "tune" alone is enough to send me into paroxysms of apoplectic rage in which I rip my ears out with rusty spoons.

Ghost Buster · 22-01-2013 04:07PM

Aglomerado wrote: »

Mike Gardiner on Clare FM, weekend mornings. The theme "tune" alone is enough to send me into paroxysms of apoplectic rage in which I rip my ears out with rusty spoons.

Does it have a twangy guitar hmmmmmmmmm. tell uncle ghostie and It'll feel all better......:)

ScumLord · 22-01-2013 04:07PM

Irish country music is like normal country music with the soul sucked out of it. It's what depression sounds like. It's ****ing horrible.

Aglomerado · 22-01-2013 04:08PM

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Does it have a twangy guitar hmmmmmmmmm. tell uncle ghostie and It'll fee all better......:)

yup. I can hear it now.... ARRRRGGHH!

MadsL · 22-01-2013 04:12PM

daithi1970 wrote: »

..I would however, pay good money to hear Daniel o Donnell do a cover of killing in the name of..

Feck you, I won't do what you tell me! Feck yoooou! I won't dooo what you tellllll meeeee!

(Sang that in Father Noel Furlong's voice - Graeme Norton should release that!!)

As to Johnny Cash singing with a Heavy Metal band - I think it is a reference to his utterly superhuman cover of Hurt by Nine Inch Nails - a song so understated and yet powerful when performed by Cash I cannot listen to it without streaming tears, particularly as Cash died shortly after recording it, and was fully aware of his prognosis as he was diagnosed with Shy-Drager syndrome in 97.

Here, join the other 51 million people moved by how one genius can utterly transform another musician's song and make it forever their own. Rest easy, Johnny, I hope you finally can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go

Cienciano · 22-01-2013 04:29PM

Anyone who doesn't like irish country music obviously hasn't listened to Mick Flavin.
http://webzoom.freewebs.com/keepitcountry/photos/photos-1/Mick%20Flavin003.jpg

And if there's any kids out there that are in a band, and they want to know how to make a video, get a notepad and pen out while you watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOX5LY0zf0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Cienciano · 22-01-2013 04:38PM

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

This has turned into a hating rather than appreciation thread.

Still, there's nothing more unwholesome than a piano accordion and drum machine combo. It's like kryptonite for anyone under 50.

LOL, nothing kills a pub like the accordion and drum machine. Was in a hotel in galway last summer, everyone was enjoying the nice pints and atmosphere in the pub, but then 2 tools arrive in with the accordion and keyboard hooked up to amps and kill the place :mad:

22-01-2013 04:47PM

Cienciano wrote: »

LOL, nothing kills a pub like the accordion and drum machine. Was in a hotel in galway last summer, everyone was enjoying the nice pints and atmosphere in the pub, but then 2 tools arrive in with the accordion and keyboard hooked up to amps and kill the place :mad:

Apparently there was a large sign near Corpus Christi, Texas, which read as follows:

Play Accordion
Go to Jail
That's the Law!

Where To · 22-01-2013 05:06PM

MadsL wrote: »

As to Johnny Cash singing with a Heavy Metal band - I think it is a reference to his utterly superhuman cover of Hurt by Nine Inch Nails

This was the collaboration I was thinking of actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR8c7Ig2it8

Knight who says Meh · 22-01-2013 05:52PM

Though not connected

I dislike Country And Irish almost as much as i dislike the majority of its fans. They are inevitably Fianna Fail voting (regardless!!!) Catholic Church supporting (REGARDLESS!!!!!) GAA fans who say COM it TEE and VEH-hickle.
This muck is to music what The Sun and Star are to journalism and what Mrs Browns Boys and Kilnasscully are to television.

ScumLord · 22-01-2013 06:19PM

Knight who says Meh wrote: »

Though not connected I dislike Country And Irish almost as much as i dislike the majority of its fans.

Country music is great, Irish music has it's moments too, but the bastardisation that is Irish country music is like taking a clump of pubes out a public shower and stuffing it in your ears.

The Master · 22-01-2013 06:22PM

9959 wrote: »

Play Accordion
Go to Jail
That's the Law!

Definition of a Gentleman:

Someone who knows how to play the accordion, but doesn't

PC CDROM · 22-01-2013 08:31PM

/stands up

I listen to CW

What can I say? When I was a baby to young fellow my Dad constantly had it on in the car. I was sort of indoctrinated.
In some senses a lot of it is not that far removed from rap and the blues. Lots of wife beating, fuked up relationship type stuff going on. Hearts that have actually got mini broken hearts and Whiskey is the cure for every thing. Until you need to stop drinking due to relationship issues.

I

CW

Great wedding music too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGEubdH8m0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lixDK_tMEhE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn481KcjvMo

Witchie · 22-01-2013 08:46PM

PC CDROM wrote: »

/stands up

I listen to CW

What can I say? When I was a baby to young fellow my Dad constantly had it on in the car. I was sort of indoctrinated.
In some senses a lot of it is not that far removed from rap and the blues. Lots of wife beating, fuked up relationship type stuff going on. Hearts that have actually got mini broken hearts and Whiskey is the cure for every thing. Until you need to stop drinking due to relationship issues.

I CW

Great wedding music too.

Totally agree, good Country stuff is great and really does tell a story but that has nothing to do with Irish Country shi**!

Oh and a bit froidian of me but when I was typing Country I left out the "o" by accident!

Geri Male · 22-01-2013 08:58PM

Ghost Buster wrote: »

But dull it down, make the beat as boring as possible and add a cavan or Longford accent and you have Country N Irish.
On a different note why are there so many people with mental handicap and learning difficulties at Country N irish gigs. Seriously. I work in music and entertainment and have noticed this.

They don't know any better.

Rasheed · 22-01-2013 09:09PM

Ah there's something wrong with you all. Mike Denver in a packed hall, after watching the local GAA team that day, a spot of mass and a few sociable drinks. Deadly.

Duckworth_Luas · 22-01-2013 09:11PM

Rasheed wrote: »

Ah there's something wrong with you all. Mike Denver in a packed hall, after watching the local GAA team that day, a spot of mass and a few sociable drinks. Deadly.

Don't forget the Fianna Fáil church gate collection at mass as well, you might even to to shake hands with the local councillor!

Rasheed · 22-01-2013 09:13PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Don't forget the Fianna Fáil church gate collection at mass as well, you might even to to shake hands with the local councillor!

Only if he fills the pot hole.....

donegal_man · 22-01-2013 09:28PM

I can't stand an awful lot of the Country 'n' Irish stuff about leaving Ireland never to return while while mother tore her grey hair and father gave sage advice about remembering your roots wherever you may be and don't get me started on the God awful covers of classic American songs.
However I would say that some of performers have written an occasional decent track such as Declan Nerney's tribute to Margaret Barry and Pecker Dunne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpI5kpsyvTY

Latchy · 22-01-2013 09:42PM

Sometimes you'll hear a pop/ rock song , ballad or tune which has echoes of finger picking slide or steel guitar, C&W style in it ie , The Byrds ,CSN&Y ,The Eagles and others but Irish country Music is a different ball game all together because many of it's patrons just listen to it 24/7 , not much else and it's similarity's can be stale and repetitive .

topper75 · 23-01-2013 03:36PM

American country is great and very influential.

Irish is desperately bad. There is probably a Best of Country n' Irish on repeat on hell's CD player.

Country music is about the songs of the rural people of the old colonial states, who largely came from here (most of them from Ulster), Britain, and Germany. They retained the folk ballads of their Euro origins. The first recordings were made in Bristol, VA in the 20's (half the town is in TN but the session happened on the VA side of the main street!). From this we have the Carter Family, Jimmie Rodgers, Uncle Dave Macon etc. and the rest is history.

Western refers to a genre called Western Swing, which had more of a jazzy feel. It originated in Texas, which, to people in the old south was viewed as the 'West'. Main guy here is Bob Wills and his Texas Playboys.

Not sure how they got lumped together. Prob just made life easy for record companies looking to bracket things. Most of the country music repertoire was referred to as 'hillbilly' records. Blues as played by the blacks in the MS delta was referred to as 'race' records. This delta music was also highly influential, probably even moreso.

BuilderPlumber · 22-10-2014 08:15AM

topper75 wrote: »

American country is great and very influential.

Irish is desperately bad. There is probably a Best of Country n' Irish on repeat on hell's CD player.

Country music is about the songs of the rural people of the old colonial states, who largely came from here (most of them from Ulster), Britain, and Germany. They retained the folk ballads of their Euro origins. The first recordings were made in Bristol, VA in the 20's (half the town is in TN but the session happened on the VA side of the main street!). From this we have the Carter Family, Jimmie Rodgers, Uncle Dave Macon etc. and the rest is history.

Western refers to a genre called Western Swing, which had more of a jazzy feel. It originated in Texas, which, to people in the old south was viewed as the 'West'. Main guy here is Bob Wills and his Texas Playboys.

Not sure how they got lumped together. Prob just made life easy for record companies looking to bracket things. Most of the country music repertoire was referred to as 'hillbilly' records. Blues as played by the blacks in the MS delta was referred to as 'race' records. This delta music was also highly influential, probably even moreso.

All the above listed artists are great along with Bill Monroe, Moon Mullican, Hank Williams, Lefty Frizzell, etc. But that's old American country: bluegrass, Westernswing. I like all the later 1950s-1970s artists as well such as the 1950s rock 'n' roll pioneers all of whom mixed older country into their acts. Also, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, George Jones, etc. Again, all American music.

As regards Ireland, I like Big Tom, Larry Cunningham and all the older showband related country singers like these. But this new stuff typified by Mike Denver and Derek Ryan is horrid music. It is a mix of country, Irish folk and boyband pop. It is the worst music I ever heard. I call it boyfolk and it is a separate genre to country or even country and Irish imo. The current crop give it a truly bad name ..

Aglomerado · 22-10-2014 08:38AM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

As regards Ireland, I like Big Tom, Larry Cunningham and all the older showband related country singers like these. But this new stuff typified by Mike Denver and Derek Ryan is horrid music. It is a mix of country, Irish folk and boyband pop. It is the worst music I ever heard. I call it boyfolk and it is a separate genre to country or even country and Irish imo. The current crop give it a truly bad name ..

Big Tom was class. My mum had loads of his records and we played them all the time. Brilliant voice.

Mike Denver's stuff makes me want to hurl though...

In Lonesome Dove · 22-10-2014 09:52AM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

All the above listed artists are great along with Bill Monroe, Moon Mullican, Hank Williams, Lefty Frizzell, etc. But that's old American country: bluegrass, Westernswing. I like all the later 1950s-1970s artists as well such as the 1950s rock 'n' roll pioneers all of whom mixed older country into their acts. Also, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, George Jones, etc. Again, all American music.

As regards Ireland, I like Big Tom, Larry Cunningham and all the older showband related country singers like these. But this new stuff typified by Mike Denver and Derek Ryan is horrid music. It is a mix of country, Irish folk and boyband pop. It is the worst music I ever heard. I call it boyfolk and it is a separate genre to country or even country and Irish imo. The current crop give it a truly bad name ..

What is your problem? I first I found your posts funny, now I'm thinking you have a serious issue. You found a thread that is over a year and half old just to have another dig in at Mike Denver and Derek Ryan. There's a **** load of music I don't like but I'm going around plastering my dislike for them on boards or any where else for that matter.

BuilderPlumber · 23-10-2014 06:14PM

In Lonesome Dove wrote: »

What is your problem? I first I found your posts funny, now I'm thinking you have a serious issue. You found a thread that is over a year and half old just to have another dig in at Mike Denver and Derek Ryan. There's a **** load of music I don't like but I'm going around plastering my dislike for them on boards or any where else for that matter.

I have no problem. I love music and have a wide range of taste in music and that includes a lot of Irish country. But to me Denver is fake, commercial and very very put on in the accent. It sounds soulless and boring. Derek Ryan singing There stands the glass is good real country blues and he should do more of them. Songs like Welcome Home The Gathering, It's Friday and Hold onto your Hat are poor and contrived.

Why do I complain about this? Well, I see 1000s of great artists who have a great sincere genuine style not get the breaks. I don't even blame Derek Ryan or even Denver for this: they have to write this or perform this muck to become promoted and popular. As said, There stands the glass shows what Derek Ryan can do when he is allowed. The other stuff like God's plan and the affore mentioned songs are to placate the damn country music political dominated sector where certain powers that be make it a closed shop for others to enter who have other styles to offer.

I oppose any form of dictatorship from ISIS down to Ireland's music industry. It is grossly unfair to the many talented bands and singers who do authentic US country blues and bluegrass in Ireland who don't get the breaks they deserve. Derek Ryan can sing this but would he be famous if he decided to concentrate on it? That's the problem.

eisenberg1 · 06-10-2016 02:46PM

Anyone remember that ape Paschal Mooney on the radio?

The Irish Country Music Appreciation Thread

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